Last I heard, TER's new policy allowing BBFS to be discussed and mentioned in reviews remains unchanged.  I haven't seen it be a topic of conversation around here and, depending on what was said, could easily set off a very unpleasant train wreck of a thread but I don't believe anything is stopping you.

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I think most want to be safe and also want to have more confidence that the provider's seen are safe and healthy as well.  Someone else not of the same mindset can harm us all.

I can also tell you that, based upon my personal research, BBFS is widely available in the Twin Cities.

My personal (and I stress MY) preference is no BBFS - just my way of trying to be safe & sound.  The reason I would be interested in who provides it, is I would probably tend to avoid those providers.

Since I believe BBFS is a risky endeavor,  my belief is that any provider that offers this service may also lack judgment in other areas (Again - IMHO)

Not saying anything anyone else is doing is wrong, it just goes against the way I prefer to play.  But if what ThreeCupsPlease is saying is true, it may be more prevalent  than I thought and I may have to rethink BBBJ too....

it was tabbooed by TER.  

But in any event, safe sex is everyone's responsibility, and in this business, there's no place for BBFS, even if, as claimed, it's widely available.

And I can tell you this is true and accepted by some providers.

Could you expand on this please. We all calculate risk to reward. I'd be interested in your reasoning for lack of worry. thanks

Bbbfs sure there is risk there is risk in bbbj also. Tou might want to read up on how stds are transmitted. Take a good look at hepatitis. Don't judge people on there actions everyone is at risk in his hobby.

BBFS = greater chance of STDs exploding across our 'community' + greater chance of unwanted pregnancy.

Either consequence means that a medical professional will get involved, which drastically increases the chance of LE and/or spouses getting involved, which increases chance of provider and hobbiest being outed, which increases chance of many more bad things happening:

Client list becoming exposed
Community crackdown/stings
That whole debilitating disease/death thing

While there us a whole free will thing going, BBFS puts everyone at stupidly higher risk.

However ironic or hypocritical for a hobbiest to use a moral argument, please consider the potential consequences.

Well, I think that it could be argued that any involvement in this "hobby" at all could be indicative of a lack of good judgment in other areas.  
I'm not willing to "out" any BBFS providers for your entertainment.  If any providers wish to contact me for BBFS, or anything else, I want them to know that our contact is confidential and goes no further.
I choose not to do reviews because I am not comfortable memorializing my activities in a forum that is totally out of my control.  Similarly, I do not see providers who wish to "screen" me because the information may not be secure once it is provided to the "screener."
If you want to know which providers have BBFS available, just ask them.  That's how I find out and you can do the same.  You needn't have any fear that you will offend the providers.

LRob65...so you honestly think that threecupsplease pays for a VIP membership just so he can stir things up?  I highly doubt it.   One thing that I have learned in my years here is that there is always more "going on" than I am aware of.  And I suspect that will always be true.  

And if he is a BBFS fan, who cares - I'm not entirely sure how that impacts any of us who choose to engage in CFS only.

I'm not endorsing it but I think the reality is that it happens much more often than you think it does.

Did you figure that out yourself, Officer, or do you know that I have no reviews because I told you?

The vast majority of providers I ask are new to me.  I never see them covered and THEN ask. I never know how to take Answer #1.  Does it mean "I never do it willingly for any amount under any conditions" or does it mean "I don't want to do it with you."    Answer #1 may be the result of caution or a dislike of me (It's possible!) or it may be legitimate.  There's is really no way to know.

I do know that I have done BBFS with a number of providers whose first response was Answer #1.  Answer #1 can often just be the provider's opening position in a process of negotiation, and really means "I need to get more money to do BBFS."

TER banned any discussion until recently.

BBFS is available if you are looking for it. Don't expect any help in your search as many still find the idea unthinkable.

The only truly safe sex is no sex... you can still get many stds from BBBJ like herpes.  You can still get  hpv even if you use a condom.  I don't look for bbfs but its funny how so many think its so much safer than BBBJ.  My own research indicates both are risky activities.  So its up to the people involved to decide what risks they want to take.  Don't kid yourself into thinking all providers or clients are clean statistics say the odds are that some are not.      

Thanks for the advice.  I am not passing on anything related to my reviews.  I don't do any and I never will. It's a choice I make.  Just like engaing in BBFS, or not.

I am speaking based upon a great deal of experience meeting providers in the Twin Cities,  Of the three providers that you have reviewed, I will tell you that, with regard to one of them, I am far more familiar with her than you are.  Unfortunately, not related, to BBFS.

I do like to ruffle the feathers of the self important who feel compelled to comment on topics and people that they could not possibly be personally familiar with. For example, your comments about BBFS are certainly not based upon any personal knowledge of the subject.  Am I correct?

I do like to ruffle the feathers of the self important who feel compelled to comment on topics and people that they could not possibly be personally familiar with. For example, your comments about BBFS are certainly not based upon any personal knowledge of the subject.  Am I correct?

Ummmmm,
I feel like my question was a simple one could you please answer. Iknow it's pretty drama free but just out of interest. I KNOW  there is risk already. Without  hyperbole could you tell me why this step seems a reasonable risk. I'm not condemning i just know my view is colored through the lens of working in a hospice years ago and seeing what the outcome is. And yes Ive seen car crashes to. Again I fucking hate rubbers but am trapped by my reasoning and am interested in how you decided. Were you nervous at first, or did you not have to think about it. thanks

Not sure between the snarky supporters and the scorched earth abolitionists why we can't talk like reasoned people about this.

When people say "has papers" i laugh. You'd have to be with the person when they get the DNA test then be with them till sex to be safe. The average test we get is only as good as 3 months ago. What you have done in the time might not show until 3 months after exposure and the CDC says 6 months to be sure.

Vaccines for A & B little conclusive for C. Potentially piggybacking on other exposed STD's but, no conclusive evidence.