HI....I am a newbie to this game and I've read all the raving reviews of Madison!  So i hooked up an appointment for sunday night!  I told her i would call her when i got a hotel room and then she could meet me there...the only change i guess is that i stayed in plymouth instead of bloomington....i called her on time and fully expected her to be there....well no call to cancell...no call saying she would be late....I was worried about her...wondering if something went wrong....??  I couldn't believe she would just not show and or contact me about it....I truely hope she'll agree to meet with me again...I am kind of disappointed because i had a 199.00 hotel room that went to waste...uhg......madison what happened to you????

zach..aka tony

Oh god........this is why I hardly see new guys.  Just because you may want an apt does not mean you have one!!!  And let me tell you about the hundreds of dollars providers spend on incalls for the conviennce of most hobbiest's.  All without complanint/cost to make it easier on you.  Fellow provider s maybe we should think of changing this as it seems we are not getting enough respect for us or the lives we have.  Tony you are not the first one who decided the time and day and thinks he has an apt.  I dont work that way.  I have seen 5 new guys and have been discusted by every one in one way or another.( Drug use, potty mouths,etc.) Guys like you are enough to make me quit. ughhhhhhhhhhhhh

Could be worse Tony...you could have it happen twice...also without explanation.  And, incidentally I don't qualify as having the laundry list of bad traits Madison just provided.  But guess she won't find that out now.

Well, I know the pain of the no-show / no-call, and it is one of the things that really drives me crazy.

OTOH, Madison's reply makes it sound like you did not have a confirmed appointment. Until the Lady has confirmed the place, date, and time, it is only a request, not an appointment.

There is also the issue of the location shift. Bloomington to Plymouth doesn't sound like much, but I would never assume that an appointment that was good in City A is equally good in City B. Depending on traffic and time of day, keeping an appointment in Plymouth instead of Bloomington could throw a Lady off on timing for a date before or after yours. I actually had to drive Bloomington to Wayzata last week at 5 PM, and it was 45 minutes and much cursing.

Sometimes there can be other issues. Some Ladies won't work too close to home, for fear of being recognized. Maybe her next door neighbors hang out at the hotel bar in the place in Plymouth you chose. Maybe she knows LE is very active in Plymouth, but laissez-faire in Bloomington. In any case, here again, until the Lady confirms the location change, you have a request, not an appointment.

So, like I said, I do take no-show / no-calls seriously, but I'd need more detail before I would put your experience into that category.

And Madison, please do remember, all of your "old guys" were once "new guys." You may have to kiss a lot of frogs for every Prince you find

Dunno about Tony's case, but I had verbal confirms prior to two no shows...and my hunch is that Tony may have too unless I was just extra "lucky".

Well, that is clear enough. A confirmed appointment may not always be kept - things happen. But they demand a call in all bu the most dire circumstances, and an offer to make things right, such as by giving a future discount or extra time, etc.

This is especially true when a guy has gone out of his way and spent money on a hotel room. Again, I have been there myself, and I hate it.

For the record, I also despise guys who pull this crap on the Ladies. As Madison points out, they spend $$ on incall locations, and the popular ones often could have filled the no-show's slot with someone else, so they have lost out on both the income and the chance to develop a good relationship with some guy who ISN'T a jerk.

In my entire hobby life, I have only ONCE cancelled with less than a week's notice. And that was United Airline's fault, and I called immediately, and I was able to reschedule for the next day. But I do believe both Ladies AND Gents should keep their scheduled appointments, or pay the price.

I've seen Madison several times and never a problem.  Must be more to it than just a no show.  That isn't like her.
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Tony the way I interpet your post I think that maybe you may have
miss understood the way things work. first let me say that sorry
that you lost money on a room, and then let me point out that
madison. beleive it or not has a life outside of this community.
understand that she doesn't sit by the phone waiting for us to
call. she is a person and she has needs, like getting away from
the clients and going out with friends or how about she took an
other call while you were hotel hunting. a conformation is just
that and I don't quite see where you had one from her. so if my
hunch is right then let this serve as a painful lesson to you.
and if I am wrong then let this be a lesson to me to keep my
big mouth shut until I have all of the facts.

I agree, Madison's great.  

Sorry it worked out this way, but there must have been a missunderstanding.

The reason i choose madison as a provider for my evening was all the great reviews i have seen of her at the TER!!! I figured there must have been a good reason for her not to call me to let me know she wouldn't be there!!  I called her at 2 p.m. and confirmed an 10 p.m. appointment...yes i didn't have a hotel yet...but i told her that i would call her when i arrived to let her know where i would be at!!  Which i did!!  If she felt uncomfortable about where i was at....i wish she would have told me.....or at least called to tell me so.....I was disappointed but have no hard feelings toward her....I WOULD STILL LOVE TO MEET HER!!!!  THAT IS HOW MUCH STOCK I PUT INTO YOUR REVIEWS....I can understand what these providers go through with cancellations......but i do believe that i did everything i said i was going to do.....I live in central minnesota..which makes it very hard to be a hobbiest!!!  I will try to call her and work out our misunderstanding.....Finally, I would like to say ..the last thing i did last night was give her a chance to explain herself....I left a message on her voice mail that told her..she wouldn't get a favorable review unless she called to explain her no-show....i told her i would need a call back by noon....i gave her until.....after 3......i never heard anything back....so i posted.....i hope everything works out....because we are all good people....

later tony

So what you are saying madison....if you say your going to meet somebody at a certain time....only means that you'll be there if nothing better comes along?????   or that you saying that you'll meet me....only means if you want to???

That really sucks if your in our position...don't you think???  

guys...what do you thinK???

location shift was for 10 pm at night...not a high traffic time i do believe....

You wrote:

"I called her at 2 p.m. and confirmed an 10 p.m. appointment"

Do you mean you spoke to her and SHE confirmed it, or just that you confirmed that you definitely WANTED to see her at that time?

This is very important. Unless Madison contacted you or spoke directly to you at some point to confirm the appointment, then it wasn't set. Madison's post seems to suggest that she never confirmed the appointment herself.

I have had a couple of these misunderstandings in the past myself, so I always try to make it VERY clear that the date is confirmed as far as I am concerned, and I keep at it until I get a response that makes it clear that the Lady agrees.

I have no ax to grind here either way. I have never had the pleasure of Ms. Madison's company, but neither has she ever treated me badly in any way. Anyone with a rep. for no-shows is certainly very low on my list, regardless of what else she might have going for her. But I just want to be sure about your version of what happened.

I think you need to get off your high horse..

Madison enjoys a solid reputation in the Twin Cities and has for some time.  Though I don't know for certain, I would be surprised if she (or most others) would make a confirmed appt with a new client without knowing the exact location.

And..., Occasional no-shows are, unfortunately, a part of the business.  When it happens the best thing is to just move on with your life and try again later (with the same person or someone different).

Launce

God is this a joke or what and Im now peed off with you Tony as I have emailed you and have left several messages asking you to call me back......I did not call you by your requested time????? You need to have some RESPECT as I have a life and may not be able to fit into your call schedule.  Let it be known that by your ignorance of this hobby and your lack of respect I would never see you.  And the guys have a point about confirming, you dont have an apt until you hear me say you do.  And a city change could be a big deal as was pointed out.  You have a lot to learn about us and how we handle business.  Fellow providers are sickend by your behavior in this matter as am I.  So good luck in seeing anyone after this.  Open your city pages and have a ball.

I verbally...over the phone confirmed our appointment and told her i would contact her with my location at around 8 for a 10 pm appointment....so yes i did verbally hear her committ!!

Well, I have a lot to learn about this hobby!  In as little as two days i have pissed off one of the best escorts in the area!  I didn't realize that having someone say they will meet with you at a certain time was not enough!!  I for some funny reason believed that when she said she would meet with me at 10 pm...I figured she would do so....We had 2 live telephone conversations about the meeting...one on friday and one on sunday....8 hours before our scheduled meeting...All i ever asked is that she could have called me and told me she couldn't make it....i realize you providers have lives...but sometimes i don't think you realize that SO DO WE.....Please tell me out there if i'm wrong...I would like to hear from other providers on this subject....Madison mentions that she has a life outside..fine...but why committ in the first place if she wasn't sure she could do it....All she would've had to do was call me and cancell..why didn't you do this Madison???  I know you received my calls on that night because your phone went from on to off....(from 4 rings to automatic voice mail)  And in all of this...I still haven't heard from her on why she did decide not to show....was it because one of her regulars decided on seeing her...and you took that appointment.....I would've understood that too...if you called and told me.......

i guess all i have to say is enough already....and I hold no grudges

zach sounds like ther was alot of miscommunication going on. starting from the get go by swithching locations. etc.. all i can say is stick to your game plan like you tell the lady in the begining otherwise you normally lose. it does not sound like madison not to show without a reason. hope things workout better next time

I was a newbie once too.  You need to make sure everything is set up in advance, ESPECIALLY if you are coming in from a distance, as I do.  As far as spending 2 bills on a hotel room in Plymouth, that seems a little far fetched.  For that kind of dough, you could stay swank downtown for some great pre-session viewing, 4star dining and late night, post session lurking and go to beddie-bye in the Hyatt or Hilton.  Crowne Plaza's (I think) gotta great free bar from 5-7 with a terrific free breakfast buffet in the morning.  ($85-125 night)  So much to learn..............

HI!!!  And thanks for the advice...I learned something out of the whole experience.....As far as the hotel room...it was a suite...with a 4 person whirlpool....meeting area....it was like a huge apartment...well worth 199....

later

I have looked at this thread and can't help but suggest that you post your review in the reviews section - not on the "interactive" board.  

There are a number of reasons.

1.  You don;t have to defend your experience.  Others can't challenge what you went thru - whether in their mind or yours, you clearly seem to feel you were mis-handled by the provider.  Its your right to feel that way.

2.  You don;t have to be challenged by the provider that you are reviewing.  Its an age-old problem in this business.  Discredit the reviewer - rally the supporters - and you;re home free....  Obviously this was "your problem" not hers - or not shared by both.

3.  Your credibility on the board, even within the single thread is challenged thus denying you the ability to post in the future with any value attached to what you have to say.  This assumes that others remember who you are.

In summary, the reviews section are distinct and different that the discussions board.  The discussions board is more pliable and receptive to all kinds of positive reviews and compliments.  It is not conducive to reviews that don;t pump others up.

In reality, the provider you reviewed has ten good referrals and reviews.  It appears that you were the unfortunate one (even if its just in your mind).  She will continue to do well - and rightly so.  But there are some, like myself, that prefer to see the bad reviews with the good.  

When you do this "hobby" for any period of time, you experience this kind of problem/issue.  I had an experience with a well-known and popular lady on these boards that stiffed me four times before we finally connected.  Four times where I had to travel 60 miles roundtrip only to be stood up!!  I actually came to accept this as the norm - and yet if I were to post that information, I know it would be challenged by all of the "knights" that would come to her defense that didn;t have to endure what I had to endure.  I'd look like the bad guy, she'd look good and I would be discarded because I shared my experience in an environment where I presented it for challenge.

So don;t bother posting any kind of negative review on the board.  Post the good ones and post the negatives in the review section.

This is not meant to be harmful to anyone - no names mentioned....  just an experienced observation from someone that has had the experience you described more than once and knows how frustrating it can be.

sl

Ok enough with the poor me thing going on here for zach aka Tony.  This man is so full of it I can smell it from here.  Am I the only provider who doesnt see a man who threatens or what?  I have talked with the other providers and let them know the shit he pulls to try to get seen.  He flat out said that If I did not see him or call him by a certain time he would put a NASTY review of me up.  The girls and I have noticed that there is new breed of scary hobbiests popping up and he tops the list.  I would hope that no one would support scare tacticts to be seen.

Not sure why you felt a need to respond to my earlier post....  its now something that you should be concerned about.  Again this isn;t about you.  Its about the ability to post something in the appropriate venue and allow people with a thought process to evaluate and make the appropriate judgement.  For instance, if Zach has never posted anything else - who would ever value his opinion in this area.  You needn't worry....  There are many Zachs that have a story to tell and they need to be heard.  A person looking for the truth will find it....

If you have backchannel info to share with the other providers because you feel a "client" is not appropriate in his behavior, by all means share it discreetly - as it should be shared - AND that is an entirely different issue.  You shouldn;t wait for a negative review to motivate you to do so....  If you feel a prospect/client/contact has an issue as it relates to stability and concern for harm to another provider, you should post it....  It likely would be very effective as a post on its own.

My point is only that reviews that don;t promote and pander to someone should be posted in the reviews section - period - end of story.  The issue that Zach brought up is an issue that many of us have faced - and if it happens to be the only review with that as an issue, it will be overwhelmed by all of the other positive reviews.

I have seen a number of negative reviews that I knew to be valid be attacked by providers, alter egos (of providers) and people that have some form of vested interest in the provider - and it absolutely sucks.  If you want examples, e-mail me and I will share them with you.

Discrediting them by the one being reviewed is not the best way to counter.  Providing great service is - and from everything I hear, you should have no concern.  You have many supporters and many who feel that you are the best there is....  let their promos of you speak for themselves.  Bad reviews that are not valid also get sorted out.  From my standpoint, reviews from "unknowns" carry no weight anyway.

I suppose this will not help in my endeavor to see you personally, but this thread has hit an issue I have seen before and don;t like.

sl