For me ... That's it exactly.
I am considering changing my menu i have done a ton of contemplating about this, and is truly my choice simply something i enjoy. But the question is, whats considered GFE? I have a STRONG opinion about this topic but i want to hear your thoughts.
Toodles
Rather than me spelling out my idea of what the term GFE encompasses, how about I ask you What you idea of BFE involves ?
I'm uncertain how to answer this, do you mean BFE as in male escort?
Its just for fun, and no I don't mean male escort, as I hardly see you seeking a male escort.
I am certain that your clients enjoy pleasing you as well as the reverse.
So what would you consider BFE, although you do not have to answer that, as you have already lightly addressed the subject in your reply to others, in this thread.
Thanks and Merry Christmas to All.
Ahhh i see i see, well to answer your question i think a BFE would include deep sensual kisses filled with hugging and snuggling, for you to make me feel just as special, a true connection between the both of us. I love to laugh, laughter would be a huge turn on for me. A little joking around not being so serious. A connection that will last, of course a delightful sexual connection with multiple "pops" for the both of us ![]()
as far a sex stuff goes-not providing BBBJ is a deal breaker at the $300+ level. When it includes CIM, that is a nice treat and BBBJCIMNQNS is the bow on the package. FIV is another fav thing that doesn't show on your profile.
In addition the the other nice GFE things you mentioned. IMO
That's it
Are you asking "thats it?" or saying that's it.
I left that envelop on the counter. This arises from having a great deal of understanding about interpersonal discourse. I believe that this goes into understanding or breaking down the psyche of your client. Thus, you would be able to reciprocate behaviors and cognitions that occur during the session. You would treat me like a girlfriend that I picked out realizing that my girlfriend is going to be different from another man’s girlfriend.
The menu cannot be a menu per se, but a certain level of communication between your client and yourself. I have seen massage girls that made me feel like she was giving a GFE.
But as for an industry standard I am not sure. I cannot say that one sexual activity over another is going to make me think you are my girlfriend
This is exactly, (almost exactly) how i perceive GFE. Not exactly about a sexual preference, i want to be your girlfriend rather it be a hour or a day, to make you feel like a king a true physical and mental connection. Deep kisses snuggled up into your strong arms. Pop corn and a movie, long intelligent conversation over a nice romantic dinner. How about we play basketball or watch the game together and have a hot steamy massage later? Or i could kick your ass in some COD, up for a challenge bring it on hot stuff!! I want you to feel as if no other man matters, this delicious time is all about catering to you. A new and exciting friendship that will last.
I have heard GFE means a certain sexual deed including feeling like a king. I don't believe this is true, and that is my opinion. I believe a girl with more restricted menu certainly
can make you feel just as amazing as any other girl. ![]()
That's exactly what it should be ... Have your rules ... We all have our preferences but treat each other like for that moment in time that person is your SO ... Forget about the cash and just enjoy ... Whether its conversation, dinner, gambling
, shower, massage, movie, healthy argument over politics, whatever ... Enjoy each other!!
Thanks love, its all about happiness and joy
This is SUCH a loaded question! This taps into what each person feels a GF is about. In fact, I have often though that acronym a bit interesting. Does a GFE mean bbbj cim? Well... Not sure a girlfriend is any more likely to do that!
I think the previous response nailed it. Make me forget I dropped an envelope. Enjoy yourself as much as I enjoy myself. Connect a little before and after. And, for that hour or two, don't worry about a menu or a transaction but connecting with someone at a very intimate level.
My 2 cents.
It should go without saying that the time together should "Make me forget I dropped the envelope". If you are looking for repeat visits, the LEAST you can do is attempt to create the fantasy that we are here together because of a strong desire to please the client.
I also think the menu is a huge part of the experience. If a provider doesn't DFK or BBBJ, it's going to be difficult to achieve the illusion of being with one's "GF". When I am looking to find a temporary girlfriend, CIM is also something I look for.
A girlfriend that is unwilling to kiss passionately, no thanks. I have also never had a girlfriend in "regular" dating ask me to wear a condom for a BJ and ultimately, I have always hoped for CIM.
I am looking for the "best" experience I can get. People are going to feel differently where safety is concerned.
It's your menu, you need to do what you feel comfortable with, but I would point out that the more you restrict the "options" it's going to effect your business negatively.
Good luck with whatever you decide!
I'd say you already have a good handle on what defines a TRUE GFE. What I really like is you going beyond services in the sheets or the art of seduction being restricted to a sexual encounter & candle light & wine.(not knocking it of course)
I consider myself a genuine GFE. The reason being I take pleasure myself in recreating memories of that 1st love. Those memories include everything from quickies in the back seat, necking at the drive-in, to a simple phone call to say you were on my mind, going to a game, pizza & a movies in the living-room & of course ultimately romantic days & evenings that include all the above & so much more ending with two people resting peacefully in one another's arms.
My definition is not the rule. I believe you & everyone else should stay within their comfort zone & how I define GFE as applied to myself needn't apply to others to achieve that sense of intimacy.
Hope this is helpful.
For me ... That's it exactly.
Well I'm glad you agree sweetheart. I must say Pink defines it much better than I.....
Thanks Leann
I consider myself a genuine GFE. The reason being I take pleasure myself in recreating memories of that 1st love. Those memories include everything from quickies in the back seat, necking at the drive-in, to a simple phone call to say you were on my mind, going to a game, pizza & a movies in the living-room & of course ultimately romantic days & evenings that include all the above & so much more ending with two people resting peacefully in one another's arms.
My definition is not the rule. I believe you & everyone else should stay within their comfort zone & how I define GFE as applied to myself needn't apply to others to achieve that sense of intimacy.
Hope this is helpful.
Understandable, everyone has their different preferences which are respected. My menu is not decreasing that's for sure
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The question came to mind when thinking of this decision. I currently consider myself GFE with a more restricted menu, but would other gentlemen now consider me true GFE since my menu may increase. I Iove all the answers please keep them coming!
Toodles
If they did you wouldn't be hobbying lol just saying muah
Exactly my point, Bri. The term "GFE" often is tied to activities most "GF's" ( or wives) would not do. I think "menu" and "GFE" are related but separate topics. Now... Nice menu WITH a "GFE" attitude and connection and we are all happy![]()
My wife did when we were first together and my last GF did it all the time.
No offense intended, but am looking for a "fantasy" girlfriend here, the best that's willing to do the most.
The wife ended up wanting to do the least, that was sure disappointing.
Plenty of 12 year old kids on the net that will do that for free!
Lol believe it or not I've had a 3 hour date and we played COD, he got that ass handed to him not once but twice. It got steamy after that haha it was a fun date to say the least, some guys are just into it and I'm down for sure!
Now a hour isn't enough time to truly get to know one another, so there would be no COD in a hours time.
Interesting you single out this one tiny item out of all the options she identified. Surely there is something she suggested that you'd actually like to do?
As far as that goes, there are plenty of gents who are 12 year olds at heart & would love to partake in such an activity. I know of two of them.
This reminds me of a couple gent that saw fit to criticize my football packages. Well... a wealth of gents have partaken in both options of going to a game & watching one in my or their living-room & guess what? We had a blast & the few who were critical were not missed.
All in all it's not about what you do together, it's about the connection & props to you Mariah that you are worldly enough to recognize & appreciate that.
Leann, you are cool sh#t have i told you that? Thank you for recognizing what i was stating, most men do appreciate a woman who can have a little fun with video games or watch the game and scream at the tv together, or get dirty in fish bait and go fishing i enjoy that to. Oh and we can cook i say its a win win, lets crack open a beer and loosin up! Its all about fun and joy who's to say what one can or cannot enjoy?
Toodles.
Interesting you single out this one tiny item out of all the options she identified. Surely there is something she suggested that you'd actually like to do?
As far as that goes, there are plenty of gents who are 12 year olds at heart & would love to partake in such an activity. I know of two of them.
This reminds me of a couple gent that saw fit to criticize my football packages. Well... a wealth of gents have partaken in both options of going to a game & watching one in my or their living-room & guess what? We had a blast & the few who were critical were not missed.
All in all it's not about what you do together, it's about the connection & props to you Mariah that you are worldly enough to recognize & appreciate that.
Toodles.
Interesting you single out this one tiny item out of all the options she identified. Surely there is something she suggested that you'd actually like to do?
As far as that goes, there are plenty of gents who are 12 year olds at heart & would love to partake in such an activity. I know of two of them.
This reminds me of a couple gent that saw fit to criticize my football packages. Well... a wealth of gents have partaken in both options of going to a game & watching one in my or their living-room & guess what? We had a blast & the few who were critical were not missed.
All in all it's not about what you do together, it's about the connection & props to you Mariah that you are worldly enough to recognize & appreciate that.
Tough game, maybe we should get together and they'll win ha!,
1. What you look like
2. Your body type
3. How much
4. Your profile on TER
5. Your review numbers
6. Now, if I see a positive cooralation that I think might be interesting for me to persure, I'll read the reviews
7. The GFE thing is unrelated at this point. Mainly because it's all YMMV until I decide to see someone .
Bbbj, dfk, fiv, daty are the acts I want to do. If I believe you're a good actress I may reach out.
For some silly reason some providers and you also think the sex is secondary to the cuddling and other non sexual activities, correct me please if I'm mistaken
I do understand that some guys are looking flolore the closeness etc. to each their own.
I do rely a lot on the reviews at this point. If performace averages 8 or better I will look closer
But the price/looks/performance ratio is the final decider
IMO
You should set the lettuce aside & eat more carrots. They're good for the eye sight.
No where did I read that anyone thinks that the sex is secondary. Quite the contrary. It typically is primary. We are talking about the GFE experience that requires a mental & emotional connection to truely feel like two "lovers" indulging in mutual pleasure. That frequently includes other activities outside of getting banged or choked by a d*@k. No thanks! I can get that crapola any day & time from the ass-wipes at the local bar.
Sometimes (with my repeats) we do have those brief drop to your knees encounters & they are awesome! However I already have an intimate relationship established with them & let's face it, in real life, true lovers do engage in such encounters. To have some strange guy however come in & "give it to me" or instruct me to "suck that d*@k" that will never happen. Unless of course you plan on paying three times my donation. Then I "might" entertain the idea but even at that seriously doubt it.
No where did I read that anyone thinks that the sex is secondary. Quite the contrary. It typically is primary. We are talking about the GFE experience that requires a mental & emotional connection to truely feel like two "lovers" indulging in mutual pleasure. That frequently includes other activities outside of getting banged or choked by a d*@k. No thanks! I can get that crapola any day & time from the ass-wipes at the local bar.
Sometimes (with my repeats) we do have those brief drop to your knees encounters & they are awesome! However I already have an intimate relationship established with them & let's face it, in real life, true lovers do engage in such encounters. To have some strange guy however come in & "give it to me" or instruct me to "suck that d*@k" that will never happen. Unless of course you plan on paying three times my donation. Then I "might" entertain the idea but even at that seriously doubt it.
If providers are going to advertise GFE, there should be an expectation of a defined level of service. If a GFE session does not include bbbj, dfk, and daty, I would be disappointed.
The quality of services and whatever is provided over and above that, physically emotionally, and erotically, will determine how highly I would rate the entire session.
.... BBBJ in defining "GFE". I can understand why some link them together. But it's no deal breaker for me. I know some excellent GFE providers who do only CBJs, they have their reasons for doing so, and for me it in no way diminishes the GF aspect of the E. In fact, I know some providers who are so great at the GFE that I'd still want to see them if they offered no BJ at all. In that sense, they'd remind me of some real girlfriends I've had!
I agree with what others have posted above on GFE meaning I forget about the envelope. With a GFE provider, I should feel as if I'm the only thing in her world for the time we're together.... and vice versa. If I were just paying a woman for sex, it would be all about me and my gratification. But with a GF, and a GFE, it's not just about what she can do for me, but what we can do for each other.
I don't think it is as simple as a list of menu items but certainly things such as deep kissing and BBBJ are something I consider seriously. But I have also gotten CBJs from ladies that I absolutely considered GFE providers. IMHO The most important part is the attitude you as an escort bring into the session.
GFE for me means we both had a very erotic and intense connection. From the sex to longing looks gazing into each others eyes. From kisses that leave us BOTH tingling. If I leave feeling like it was wham bam thank you mam, then it was sex not GFE. If I leave feeling like I was crushin' on you and maybe you on me a little bit, which I hope happens, then it was GFE. I saw a provider once in NJ about 5 years ago that I think about regularly to this day. THAT was a GFE experience. We both were really into each other or at least really in the moment. GFE has to be both ways to be great.
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It's about having a "static electricity" connection... you know.. kinda like when your not ticklish... but the way I'm touching you, caressing you & cuddling with you... your soooo full of "giggles"... not laughing... but, soft feel so good giggles. I hope that makes sense!
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My view of an accurate GFE would include:
nagging me to leave my wife And children
always wanting to go on a trip somewhere
anytime, anywhere sex - always in the mood
BBBJTCNQNS
Calling at inappropriate times
Able to cuddle indefinitely
PDA ok
Doesn't complain about anything about m
nagging me to leave my wife And children
always wanting to go on a trip somewhere
anytime, anywhere sex - always in the mood
BBBJTCNQNS
Calling at inappropriate times
Able to cuddle indefinitely
PDA ok
Doesn't complain about anything about me
unlimited access to your credit cards
you taking out my garbage
you doing yard work
you cleaning out the garage
you changing the oil in the car.
j/k
Belind
AAARRRRGGGGGHHHH! Flashback to my married days. STOP PLEASE STOP!!!!!!
roll over and fall asleep because I had such a loooooooooonngggg day!
LOL, J/K. I would not do that. My guy doesn't know how to change oil. He hires someone to do it!!
He does blow snow though! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I know a woman that would exchange BJ for oil changes. Unfortunately, I was not the mechanic. I should paid more attention in shop class.....
I would take her to down to Jiffy Lube to make that trade happen.
IMO, the debate (GFE or not) should not be about how you 'felt' after the session, it should be about what is being 'advertised' beforehand. Otherwise, this question would be about the correctness of terms we use to write our review, and not about the accuracy of provider's ads.
If the consensus is that GFE means different things to different folks, then it's pretty meaningless in advertising. "Wow! The cuddling was great and she told me how handsome I am, what a nice GFE session." :
....replicating that feeling of dating someone new, where you are eager to learn everything you can about that person. Everything is fun no matter what the particular activity is... Also, as stated by others, forgetting that what is actually happening is a transaction is a very good indicator that the GFE is working very well.
In fact, for me, the sexual component of GFE is secondary to what I stated above. I wouldn't consider seeing someone for an hour or two a GFE encounter. Instead it would need to be at least an evening out together or perhaps a long weekend in Vegas ![]()
As we know, GFE has many various activities and expectations, and emotional desire associated with the term.
I think that it was Bri, who posted further down in the thread, asking how many GFs and Wives actually do give a BBBJ with CIM, and so on.
A better way to approach this, is with the idea of what the client's idea of what he desires, be it the sexual acts, the attitude of the provider, and as well, how is receptive is the provider ?
While it is true that many GFs and Wives refuse to do GFE, the desire overall, of the client, is to have that need met, thus the client is seeking a provider, who will provide that fantasy that the client seeks.
That is really a better way to approach the subject. Will you the provider, provide the services that a client seeks, of which he has a fantasy of what he would like for a girl friend to do. without resistance, or whining, or pissing and moaning. LOL
This truly is, where the providers, Provide such a wonderful service to us guys.
And by the way, Thanks for asking us what we want, it shows, that you truly do want to attempt to meet a gentleman's fantasy.
My actual fantasy, is for a provider, to pay me an hourly rate, and then provide the sexual, physical, and emotional fantasy that arouses me.
LOL Just Kidding!
Merry Christmas !
Now about that Christmas gift, for me, ( see Above description of GFE ) or a lump of coal ?
Thank you as well r taking your time to post, i love hearing what makes guys happy! I thrive to make that happen in reality.
I think that it was Bri, who posted further down in the thread, asking how many GFs and Wives actually do give a BBBJ with CIM, and so on.
A better way to approach this, is with the idea of what the client's idea of what he desires, be it the sexual acts, the attitude of the provider, and as well, how is receptive is the provider ?
While it is true that many GFs and Wives refuse to do GFE, the desire overall, of the client, is to have that need met, thus the client is seeking a provider, who will provide that fantasy that the client seeks.
That is really a better way to approach the subject. Will you the provider, provide the services that a client seeks, of which he has a fantasy of what he would like for a girl friend to do. without resistance, or whining, or pissing and moaning. LOL
This truly is, where the providers, Provide such a wonderful service to us guys.
And by the way, Thanks for asking us what we want, it shows, that you truly do want to attempt to meet a gentleman's fantasy.
My actual fantasy, is for a provider, to pay me an hourly rate, and then provide the sexual, physical, and emotional fantasy that arouses me.
LOL Just Kidding!
Merry Christmas !
Now about that Christmas gift, for me, ( see Above description of GFE ) or a lump of coal ?
A girlfriend is a succubus. An emotional black hole that survives on the attention she steals when demanding that you do things that you don't want to do at a time when you don't want to be doing anything other than what you were already doing. They then use their pussy to leverage you into a legally binding contract known as "Marriage" which essentially makes you her slave.
That is why I avoid the girlfriend experience at all costs and opt for the hooker experience.
The girlfriend experience is ONLY what you allow it to be! We are all in control of our own emotions. No one can make us feel a way we don't want to feel! Take charge of your emotions!