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nslguy 4525 reads
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alexmathews3126 reads

Hey y'all,

I'm back in Minneapolis/St. Paul until the end of next week.  The last time I was here (a couple of weeks ago), I got caught-up in the drama of some hobbyist getting himself kicked-off of this board and opted to get out of drama's way while the gettin' was good, which, by the way, I elaborated on on my website (www.alexmathews.net) should you care to hear my thoughts on that subject.

That being said, like I said, I'll be here through the end of next week and would love to meet a couple of non-drama-ridden hobbyists while I'm back in town. Please feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email.

Hope to hear from you and have a great weekend!

Alex
cell: 214-552-6891
email: [email protected]

I do hope you remember there is a reaction for
every action... some say it is a dish best
served cold.........

Ben Dover1585 reads

Before I get it???  (If you are trying to flame me for something, don't worryI won't moderate you for taking me to task.......

Oh well,,, As long as we are mixing physics and metaphors - What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

(Answer: The energy of the force is dissipated into the surrounding  molecules and spent as heat. The matter that was used to express the force is not indestructedable, therefore even though the "force" itself can not be stopped, there is no longer a "vehicle" for the force to be applied to the immovable object by, The immovable object wins!)

nslguy2440 reads

Now I call that Drama!!!

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the one that used to get rave reviews.  On one page of your web-site you tell us you don't want reviews but then you devote a page listing your reviews.  Make up your mind.  You appear to be a contradiction wrapped up in an enigma.  If we wanted an unpredictable experience we can just stick with the yellow pages.  If you are going to do this as a business then give your clients some damn respect, show up on time, and stop the bitching.  If we wanted that we can stay home and screw the wife.

Ben Dover2673 reads

"Contradiction" seems to be a pattern with her, "No drama! No drama!" - But then write a bunch of "drama provoking" tripe about well known and respected TC guys on her website and then link it to her post on the TC board! As she announces her returning to our area! -- This was not a well thought-out plan!  



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alexmathews2282 reads

Typically, I don't entertain this kind of banter with a response, as I don't have the kind of spare time you people obviously do.  However, it appears I may have hit a nerve with a couple of you, which I imagine makes you either friends of the man in red thigh highs who got kicked off this board, possibly one of the men who couldn't keep their mouths shut about the time we spent together at a TER gathering, or maybe the guy who offered me drugs during an appointment that I kicked to the curb.  Here's some advice from me to you . . . Maybe you should try actually READING my response on my website instead of forming your own opinions as to what's going on with me here.  It would take some of the guess work out of it for you.  Regardless, it's a beautiful Saturday afternoon, and I, for one, am going to go enjoy it.  I hope you do also.

Have a terrific day!

Alex

Ben Dover3958 reads

I'll do this as "respectfully" as possible!
  I don't mean this as an attack on you Alex, only to point out flaws in your logic and reasoning - In-fact I am not personally involved in your "Minnesota Drama" that YOU brought up by posting here, I'm just observing and offering "Color Commentary" to your thread.......
  It seems you are a rather "conflicted individual" - Let's break down your post and review each item as a seperate topic. Shall we?

1a]You wrote: "Typically, I don't entertain this kind of banter with a response"
-- My response: Funny thing is, I see a pattern developing with your approach, You first offer a disclaimer that you in-fact don't "do" or "engage in" something and then in the next sentence launch into the very thing you you claimed you were above the frey on.

1b]You wrote: "as I don't have the kind of spare time you people obviously do."
-- My response: It is not "obvious" to me, It seems this "Minnesota thing" has consumed a great deal of your time - be it "spare time" or not! You even went so far as to "feature it on your website that you use to promote yourself with!

2a]You wrote: "However, it appears I may have hit a nerve with a couple of you"
-- My response: I disagree, no nerves hit here, I've never met you, wasn't planning to, and now will certainly go out of my way not to - based on the personality you have put forward on your website and posts to this board! Also, your desire to take what you know from your "personal and private" encounters with some of your "clients" to a PUBLIC BOARD and then attempt to defame them in front of there peers is inexcusable!! I tend NOT to remove such posts from my board, I think they are a "public service", in that, men can see the WHOLE TRUTH in what they might expect from you should they end up on your bad side after trusting you with their "Special requests"!!

2b] You wrote: "which I imagine makes you either friends of the man in red thigh highs who got kicked off this board"
-- My response: I am neither "friend" or aquaintance of any such man in red boots, or for that matter ANY MAN ont his board! I'm a loner and don't develop personal friendships in regards to this hobby.

2c] You wrote: "possibly one of the men who couldn't keep their mouths shut about the time we spent together at a TER gathering"
-- My response: How "odd" that YOU would mention a character flaw about someone else that you suffer from to such a high degree yourself! - Take the plank of wood out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck of sawdust from your neighbors eye! It will be easier for you to "help" your neighbor, once your own condition is brought under control!

2d] You wrote: "or maybe the guy who offered me drugs during an appointment that I kicked to the curb.
-- My response: Considering what YOU were "offering" him, (for a price!) I hardly think you have the higher moral ground on this one!!!

3a] You wrote: "Here's some advice from me to you . . ."
-- My response: No thank you! I will do nicely without ANY advice from you! You might want to actually "SEEK" some advice, rather than offer any!

3b] You wrote: "Maybe you should try actually READING my response on my website instead of forming your own opinions as to what's going on with me here."  
-- My response: I read your statements on your website thoughly, That is WHY I felt the need to post and shed light on the fact that your "anouncement" of returning to the area was in-fact a "cloaked" attempt to spew pissy things about men from this area! - If I had NOT read your website, then I would have assumed you were just a touring girl on her way into town........

3c]You wrote: It would take some of the guess work out of it for you.
-- My response: No "guess work" here, YOU HAVE ISSUES! and the facts to prove it are clearly woven into your posts and your website's "Drama journal"!

4a] You wrote: "Regardless, it's a beautiful Saturday afternoon"
-- My response: I agree! :)

4b]You wrote: "and I, for one, am going to go enjoy it.  I hope you do also."
-- My response: I have enjoyed it very much so far, and Hope the same for you.

5] You wrote: "Have a terrific day!"
-- My response: I am, Thank you!



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Ben Dover3046 reads

I don't consider having "spare time" to be something of which "too much" can be had.

I consider the fact that "I own my time" and can do with it anything of my own choosing to be a luxury!(meaning I don't work for someone else and I answer to no one) Also I'm not tied to a desk when I want to use the computer, so I can be enjoying other things WHILE I'm on TER.

 You on the other hand, have "waaaaaaaaay" too big of need to have the last word in an argument!



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Ben Dover1399 reads

I used to do this all the time to certain ladies that came on the board and emoted on the members here as if we were there husbands and we somehow owed them something beyond their fee! - But I was always "moderated" for saying things like this!
 Like when "Suzanne in San Diego®" came by some months ago and took some shots at MDL and then just started shooting insults in every direction uncontrolably. I did this same thing for her and showed that her flawed thinking was in-fact the source of her problems, but when I submitted my posts, (many attempts) they never made it to the board! So it seemed that I was just standing there with nothing to say as she made one low-brow snide remark after another!
  I don't support the type of flaming that allows people to just lambast eachother with foul language, name calling and insults, or drag their opponent's personal affairs out into public view for the purpose of humiliating or hurting them.
 I did this as a little "how-to exercise"! I hope others (men and women alike) will use it as a guide when they want to challenge someone on the board.



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Yeah but guys, have you looked at her reviews, and at her pictures?  Sure maybe there's a risk, but look at the rewards!  Ben, you've even counseled me dive right in when I see something tempting.  OK, I'll say it since he's not around:  Sometimes--just sometimes, you have to think with your little head!



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Ben Dover2061 reads

The Force is strong with you Trooper!
(Or maybe it is just your many years of experence at this hobby! LOL!)

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BggDgg1865 reads

I feel the need to set the record straight regarding Alex.  I've seen her many times and she is a completely incredible woman and I have never had a complaint with her.  

All she did was put what info she thought was appropriate on HER website, that SHE is paying for and all this whining starts.  It does seem that she struck a nerve with a few of you.

Because reading the site seems so hard for some, here is some info for you.  Alex doesn't WANT the reviews or need them and that she did take over two months off so that may explain the six months.  I can tell you from experience that she isn't burned out or doesn't hate men that have a clue.  She is sick of dealing with hobbyists who think that they are the gods of the universe, think they can blackmail or roughup a provider into a free ride.

Alex is awesome and from the providers that I have seem here in MN she is incredibly underpriced for the service she provides.  Sorry for the vent, but you guys are way off the track on this one.  
 

Ben Dover1889 reads

And you have every right to come here with your "venting" about this! Your argument is a good one! - How unusual though, this is the FIRST time you've ever posted on this board......

 However, you are simply wrong on a few points.

1] You wrote: "All she did was put what info she thought was appropriate on HER website, that SHE is paying for and all this whining starts."

-- My reply: She has every right to put ANYTHING she wants to on her website (that SHE is paying for) and nobody is or has disputed her on that. SHE brought the fight to US when she posted a link to HER website here on THIS board! THAT is when "all the whining" started!

2] You wrote: "It does seem that she struck a nerve with a few of you."

-- My reply: Still, there is nothing in the content of her website that "strikes nerves". It is the WAY that she chooses to do this. She wants no drama, but STILL wants to put a link on this board here amidst the men she is pointing fingers at on her website! (that SHE paid for LOL!) At the VERY LEAST that shows poor marketing skills!

3] You wrote: "She is sick of dealing with hobbyists who think that they are the gods of the universe, think they can blackmail or roughup a provider into a free ride."

-- My reply: She is a free and independent person, and is NOT required to take appointments from everyone that calls her, sick, weird, fat, smelly, drunk, mean, giant egos, ect..ect.. COMES WITH THIS BUSINESS! to some degree, (The same could be said for us, the "hobbiest" - We too take the good with the bad!) So I'm not going to feel sorry for her - SHE chose this career path, SHE reaps the financial reward that this career choice brings, and SHE can deal with the "unpleasentries" that come with it!


The rest of what you say is fine, I'm glad you stepped up to defend her, and I believe what you say about her, She is lucky to have good clients like you, maybe she can write something nice about you on her website (That SHE is paying for) LOL!  I don't care WHAT she writes, as long as she don't post a link to it here and then expect no critical response...............




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Ben Dover2343 reads

"Power is nothing with out control" My Little head has guided me to many a fantastic experence that I would have otherwise missed out on, But sometimes has dragged me into situations that I wish I could have erased from my memory!

Here is a little "Biblical wisdom" that helps me guide the "Little Head's" impulsiveness:

Proverbs 7, 7-27 (NIV)

7 I saw among the simple,
      I noticed among the young men,
      a youth who lacked judgment.

   8 He was going down the street near her corner,
      walking along in the direction of her house

   9 at twilight, as the day was fading,
      as the dark of night set in.

   10 Then out came a woman to meet him,
      dressed like a prostitute and with crafty intent.

   11 (She is loud and defiant,
      her feet never stay at home;

   12 now in the street, now in the squares,
      at every corner she lurks.)

   13 She took hold of him and kissed him
      and with a brazen face she said:

   14 "I have fellowship offerings at home;
      today I fulfilled my vows.

   15 So I came out to meet you;
      I looked for you and have found you!

   16 I have covered my bed
      with colored linens from Egypt.

   17 I have perfumed my bed
      with myrrh, aloes and cinnamon.

   18 Come, let's drink deep of love till morning;
      let's enjoy ourselves with love!

   19 My husband is not at home;
      he has gone on a long journey.

   20 He took his purse filled with money
      and will not be home till full moon."

   21 With persuasive words she led him astray;
      she seduced him with her smooth talk.

   22 All at once he followed her
      like an ox going to the slaughter,
      like a deer stepping into a noose.

   23 till an arrow pierces his liver,
      like a bird darting into a snare,
      little knowing it will cost him his life.

   24 Now then, my sons, listen to me;
      pay attention to what I say.

   25 Do not let your heart turn to her ways
      or stray into her paths.

   26 Many are the victims she has brought down;
      her slain are a mighty throng.

   27 Her house is a highway to the grave,
      leading down to the chambers of death.

nslguy4526 reads

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BEWARE! This girl is very violent. I would stay far far away!

alexmathews2916 reads

Look, you jerk . . . There is not a violent bone in my body.  Get a friggin' life!

While I'm here, I might as well post here what I did on Big Doggie.  Here goes . . .

Let's just get a couple of things straight here kids:

It was me who contacted "Trooper" . . . There you have it. However, I never threated to expose him for disagreeing with my opinion, nor did I request and/or demand he leave any board. I simply asked him to get his friggin' facts straight before he formed them. His opinion regarding me, which he blasted on TER, was based on some crap he was told by another, which wasn't true, AND he did it having NEVER EVEN MET ME! It threatened my livelihood - my means to support myself and my family. Hence, I wanted him to feel what it felt like to have HIS livelihood threatened for a sec. If I wanted to really expose him and his little group of cronies, I have a much viewed website on which to do it. However, that was NOT my intent!

What you small, yet vocal, group of people fail to realize is that while this may be a sport for some of you, it is a provider's life!! Blasting someone you've never even spent time with on some board can put a dent into their business and take food out of their childrens' mouths! Why would someone want to do that to a total stranger?! I just don't get it, and honestly, it hurts like Hell! I know you other providers know EXACTLY about what I'm speaking . . . Form whatever opinion you'd like of me AFTER you've meet me. I don't give a crap. However, most will tell you once they do meet me, I'm extremely nice and a terrific provider. "Trooper" and his buddies had no right to go and tell the entire nation otherwise without having even met me.

Oh yeah . . . By the way, the reason I have no reviews in the last six months is because I have a VERY STRICT "No Review Policy". What happens with me behind closed doors STAYS THERE!!!

I hope y'all have a terrific day. Myself, I have appointments. Best of luck to you.

Ben Dover3708 reads

She will get a hit report on everyone who clicks on it! She will see your cookies, and your IP info - even what kind of computer you have!

 This is not some lame ass attempt by me to keep people from seeing she wrote about me on her site - I WANT people to see it! The most damning thing she can do to herself is speak!
 I just want people to be aware of the risks involved when dealing with some one this unstable and a proven track record of using personal info to manipulate and control men!

 I would gladly allow her to post her tripe here about me - no need for a link to her site to get her message out.......... In-fact, I'd cut and paste the "Venting" part of her site here myself, if she permited me to, but I consider that stuff "her" property, until she releases it to me.

Also, She was moderated BEFORE she showed up here (probably for good reason!) and I only unmoderate Minnesota people, So I'll leave the managing of her forked tongue to whoever her home town moderator is...........
(By the way, the content of this post was put in a post of mine on the board, I'm not keeping her from saying her piece!)

-- Modified on 9/21/2005 7:30:22 AM

The way she reponded proves my point. Not only is she violent, she's a ripoff artist aswell. She stole from me.

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