..Given the "assumed" business model being used by MNE has schedulers completely controlling the clientele, I wonder if the ladies have any clue at all about who they will be meeting?  Do they have a choice?  Perhaps they have quite a bit of choice but if they are pressurred to see who is lined up in any way it seems to me that MNE and the schedulers are now in full pimp mode.  Election year approaching and HT is a huge bullet point on the platforms of both parties.  I don't think it would take even a moderately aggressive prosocuter to determine the organized process has intentionally stepped over that line.  I've thought this way quite a while actually and won't be interested in seeing any of these ladies for what should still be considered a legal massage.   Still having several nice independents around town is a blessing!  This isn't just a fine/wrist slap world anymore.  Thoughts from others?

… re the odds of LE going after an independent provider who hosts in a private incall, hotels, or perhaps her home, vs. the odds of them going after a group of providers who are “scheduled” centrally and who share one or two sites that are fairly well known… and where a concern about trafficking could be legitimately raised.

Amen - Relax and enjoy  
Pretty small splash if they shut down an independent working to pay school loans and a client who if they keep from talking most likely can not even be arrested .
A lot of time and money for small headlines.

At least I don't and never have worked for anyone but, I do use that site sometimes.  
 idk about anyone else's thoughts but if you have a scheduler it's sort of like you having a "pimp" in a way considering the fact they're being paid to schedule and you don't really have much of a say over who's coming in.  
That's the whole point of it, to get as many people in as you can and make $$$.  
Totally understandable that some can't work without "management" however,  
To me that seems so exhausting, as if it's a race to bottom not to mention being crammed into an apartment situation in the middle of a pandemic/endemic aside from the other not so fun parts of the industry ..yikes .

To even suggest to compare them to victims of human trafficking is an insult to victims of human trafficking.

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Between the effects of the pandemic and other upheavals going on their resources have been stretched.  But our activities have not been forgotten and as you say this is an election year.  MNE is an inviting target.

It's too bad you don't think much before you start banging on the keyboard.  I don't believe the ladies we see advertised on MNE are trafficked as most would assume the term means.  I, as I imagine most others would, assume they are all doing this thru their own free will.  Perhaps I could have been more clear and stated the greater concern is over the expanded definition of trafficking.  If you think our legislators have recently narrowed that term down to mean just only humans imported to the country to be used as sex workers or underage kids being pulled into the business by eastern bloc gangs...so be it and good luck.  I believe it's been the opposite of that.  I believe a motivated (higher political aspirations) prosecutor now has the ability to simply ALLEDGE a person is not forced, but only manipulated into engaging in sex work of any kind the threshold has been achieved.  This powerful tool they've been given by our politicians will be used more for making their own headlines than it will to attack a real and very serious problem.  Bank on it.

" considering the fact they're being paid to schedule and you don't really have much of a say over who's coming in."

Let me get this straight on what you are asking/stating.

I am not saying that the MNE gals are being trafficked in any sense.  Just putting it out there that things have ramped up in the last year.  I don't think that getting caught up in a prosti "sting" has quite the impact of getting even potentially implicated in a trafficking sting.  State vs Fed.  Inability to prove/convict has never stopped agenda driven DA's before.  More of bringing some light to potential issues out there.

They always bring in human trafficking.  That most of the people who get arrested have nothing to do with trafficking is irrelevant; LE will still talk about their efforts to combat human trafficking.  If LE were to go after MNE, that the providers on there are not trafficked will not matter.  LE will still try to make it look like they were after traffickers.

you were the one who brought up MNE.

Who ever runs the MN site better be paying their taxes because LE is going to be all over them one of these days.  This site makes every other group in MN that has ever engaged in escorting  look like small fry when you look at the # of girls that are listing and  if they are running the schedulers or renting the spaces its going to be a shit storm when they get busted.  Not if but when.   Of course, it could be a local politician or ex cop owning it.  Grab the popcorn.

I’m sorry but every single human trafficking arrest story I read in the local news involves minors.  I don’t have a problem with these arrests.  Do you?

Your thread serves no purpose.

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No, I'm saying I think the difference between pimp and trafficker has been diluted with recent changes and expansion of the laws and past/potential clients may want to keep this in mind with regard to their own personal legal exposure.  It is odd that you of all people choose to white knight for victims and protect their sacred space in the world when you state you prefer your dates to not have a high school degree.  As Yoda said, Manipulate much, you do??

Clearly, you have missed many news stories and are frankly ignorant about what has been happening.

If you have examples, please share.  I follow local crime news closely and haven’t heard of adult females being trafficked.  The human trafficking news stories involve minors.

Stop sniffing glue.  Your theories are dangerous and not something to share.

Miggs- what are you sniffing?? Might be the first of Nago’s posts I agreed with. You are right to the point LE is and should be after those truly trafficked and minor. They do NOT have the resources or or time
To chase down the co-Ed paying off the rent or mom working to pay the rent.  
The flip side is when they decide to crash an apartment stashed with a half dozen providers or worse yet get to the scheduler’s computer the splash will be the huge ring of trafficked  abused women and the entitled John’s from the burbs taking advantage of these provider- they will downplay the $$ to $$$$ per hour of coercion.
Feel if lucky owner/ operators will get shut down as they get close but with that a client list may also end up in some scary hands.  
If you think a governor or attorney general would turn down a splash a month before elections — take out the pipe and enjoy.

IjMiggs 12/30/2021

Trafficking laws are pretty onerous.  Look at the allegations against Matt Gaetz,  dating a 17 yr old is fine but if you take her across a state line-- and have sex-- a DA could bring trafficking charges in this circumstance.  And this involves a sitting member of Congress (not sure of the details here but this has been driving the news story).  

This is from a Texas law firm.  Now, things in TX are quite different than in MN.  They have a vastly different problem with an international border that is now being overrun.  However, the intent of this law is to severly punish the consumer in an attempt to squash demand.  Note the man/min is 180 days in jail.  This is a game changer.

It's not that there is actual trafficking going on with every bust LE makes.  It's that LE talks about stopping trafficking even when there is no trafficking happening.  They want people to believe that every time they arrest someone for trying to see a provider that they (LE) are saving people from being trafficked.

...As defined by the FBI

Especially the way things are going in the Twin Cities.....

I don't think the 2 two mayors and governor is gonna set up stings to bolster there already very good numbers. Although the vice squads mite do a sting at any time, its been awhile. But always be careful. It's true every bust is now associated with trafficking just another charge, to deal with whether its legite or not, there gonna toss it in cause it makes it sound worse and the average juriist doesnt know any better and prosecutors are always looking for a win.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/human-trafficking-documentary-132800382.html

This video is a great example why anyone who participates in this game should feel they have a larger target on their back.  Those that choose to play in a big stable with multiple locations/girls running thru a coordinated system will simply put themselves out in front of the pack to be picked off by the first headline seeking, politically motivated prosecuter.  Guys can choose whether they want to be fodder for the LE cannon or not.

The biggest take away from the documentary is - if you're a woman & you got caught, always tell them you're trafficked and/or exploited, they will most likely let you off the hook. For guys, we're SOL -so STFU & lawyer up and be prepared for life to spiral down hill from thereon.

Trafficking is just plain bad. The politicians and mayors are too busy chasing down car thiefs, shootings and thugs.  There are several schedulers serving the needs of us older guys and I suspect all the providers voluteer thieir services , I sincerely appreicate the services that are provided in the TC and say thanks to the providers.  I do love all the beautiful women

Dangerous?  Shouldn't be shared?  How does that make any sense?  One of the purposes of this board is to share information about LE risks.

me thinks thou protest too much.  Why are you afraid of this topic being discussed?   Do you have some affiliation with some of the pimps that advertise on MNE???

Even if Walz were to arrest and convict everyone on MNE and have the website closed, it would have virtually no impact on him being re-elected for governor.

Well Minneapolis voters re-elected the same idiots, so if they care about crime, they have a funny way of showing it.

P4P busts, tagged as HT, are great and cheap PR and most cops totally enjoy doing them. Being assigned a P4P op is given as a reward. Higher ups will find a way to do them.

Hilarious no doubt spoken like a true Trump follower. Misinformation made up bs and idiotic conclusion. No I do not agree that with your idiotic conclusion. The governors and 2 mayors are not cooking up a sting to bolster there numbers, pure bs. I do believe we are do for one though it's been awhile, and its relatively easy way for LE to arrest us perceived perverts. They through the trafficking on every case now to build there case, so be carefull fellas.

If you dont think politicians dont do things to help their image you are the one who is blinded.   Especially when we are seeing a spike in crime in the Twin Cities areas.   If you dont think Mayors, Govenors, etc dont put pressure on local PD... again you are blind as well.   I am not saying they will plan something elaborate or spy like missions.   They will just tell the local PD... Hey we need to be a little tougher on  "trafficking".... i think we should do a "sting".    Then that way they Mayor, Gov., etc can get infront of the cameras and puff their chests and say... Look at what a great job they did.  Then say... See we are being tough on crime.

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You can edit your post but only shortly after you make it.  I think the limit is 4 hours.

A worthwhile read: https://thegarrisonproject.org/human-trafficking-sting/

This is very TRUE.   hardly ever do they net charges.   They do get victims off the street but that is about it.

And if you look at the details (if they are included) in the vast majority of these trafficking busts, it's consistent that few, if any, people are charged with trafficking offenses.  The vast majority of the people charged are adults participating in a consensual & commercial meeting.