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TiffanyBerkshire See my TER Reviews 2836 reads
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So I believe I may have had a close call with LE today... I met up with a potential client just for a drink 2 days before set appointment, so he could make sure I looked like his photos for 'him and his wife'. I arrived at the lounge/bar we agreed to, proceeded to order a drink (as did he...but he didn't even have a sip of it - red flag number 1).

He proceeded to gradually ask more and more questions. Similar to "so how is this going to go?", "what happens once we get to the room?", "how are you going to make my wife comfortable?", "if nothing happens, do you still walk away with the money?", "my wife probably won't be comfortable giving you oral but you'll do it for her, right?", and the questions continued even as I kept saying "I don't discuss services. My time is my time, and thats what you are paying for." I ended the conversation and walked away shortly thereafter, letting him think he was going to call me an hour later to set up a specific time. He proceeded to follow me out of the restaurant, and wait to see if I walked to a car.

He didn't get any answers to the 'leading' questions, but should I be concerned? And if this IS a red flag, or just an unsafe person, where do I post the information?

BolshoiKhui1908 reads

That guy has LE written all over his forehead, if you ask me. I hope he didn't get your license plate number.

Posted By: TiffanyBerkshire
So I believe I may have had a close call with LE today... I met up with a potential client just for a drink 2 days before set appointment, so he could make sure I looked like his photos for 'him and his wife'. I arrived at the lounge/bar we agreed to, proceeded to order a drink (as did he...but he didn't even have a sip of it - red flag number 1).

He proceeded to gradually ask more and more questions. Similar to "so how is this going to go?", "what happens once we get to the room?", "how are you going to make my wife comfortable?", "if nothing happens, do you still walk away with the money?", "my wife probably won't be comfortable giving you oral but you'll do it for her, right?", and the questions continued even as I kept saying "I don't discuss services. My time is my time, and thats what you are paying for." I ended the conversation and walked away shortly thereafter, letting him think he was going to call me an hour later to set up a specific time. He proceeded to follow me out of the restaurant, and wait to see if I walked to a car.

He didn't get any answers to the 'leading' questions, but should I be concerned? And if this IS a red flag, or just an unsafe person, where do I post the information?

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vorlon1545 reads

Way tooooo many flags to not walk away from that.  I don't know of a way to be sure that this was LE vs just someone who doesn't have a clue how things should be done (short of the guy identifying himself as a cop).  There is  providers only board; I would suggest you get access to it and post the info there; the ladies are also better equipped to tell what additional precautions you might want to take for a while.

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SabrinaRae2887 reads

Walked away. As soon as he started asking what he gets for this service and asking too many questions.. NO THANKS! I'll pass! Good job girlie! Better safe then sorry!

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vallen1113 reads

Good thinking on your feet. Not only are you beautiful, but smart, too. I think I may need to come see you some day. Nothing is more attractive on a woman than a brain, IMO.

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TiffanyBerkshire2512 reads

I was hoping I was right in walking away from that... no need to take chances. :) Thanks for your advice everyone! Very helpful!

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patrico1338 reads

Most wives don't allow their hubbies to play with escorts and them.  And those that do would probably have went with him to meet you.  Either way you made a good choice in walking away.

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FloraFaun1614 reads

I NEVER meet for coffee because all they want is to (my nickname for it) WINDOW SHOP. You will almost NEVER get an appointment out of a window shopper. He was never intending to book you. And he is only creating this "you and his wife" scenario because he is sitting there in starbucks or wherever with a nice big hard-on, which later on he will tend to... with the memory of his WINDOW SHOPPING day being a great success.
So no, I dont think he is LE at all. Following you to your car is him potentially being of stalker status. But all of these things that happened to you are typical of ALL WINDOW SHOPPERS so Avoid them for now on.

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Dr.BudGreen1061 reads

ya, but who orders a drink and doesn't even take a sip? not me.

Posted By: florafaun
I NEVER meet for coffee because all they want is to (my nickname for it) WINDOW SHOP. You will almost NEVER get an appointment out of a window shopper. He was never intending to book you. And he is only creating this "you and his wife" scenario because he is sitting there in starbucks or wherever with a nice big hard-on, which later on he will tend to... with the memory of his WINDOW SHOPPING day being a great success.
So no, I dont think he is LE at all. Following you to your car is him potentially being of stalker status. But all of these things that happened to you are typical of ALL WINDOW SHOPPERS so Avoid them for now on.

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FloraFaun1925 reads

You have just bought yourself a coffe at starbucks and are walking down Madison Avenue in New York City, when you stop fast in your tracks because the Armani store has the most handsome suit you have ever seen in all your life. You are transfixed and for a little while, time stands still.... and so does your coffee

Or

You are sitting in your Starbucks, the one you go to everyday at the same time, sitting in the same seat... you have your routine, and its a boring one, but hey... its your life. But what's this? A gorgous women has just walked into the starbucks and her jeans are tight, and her ass is to die for.... long hair that you can imagine pulling on as you take her from behind.....
"oh damn" your coffee has gone cold. You forgot your mundane routine because Miss Hottie walked into Starbucks.

:-)

Ok, is it making sense why he forgot to sip his coffee? He was getting a FREEBY WINDOW SHOPPING moment. Only problem, was that the merchandise he never intended to buy, just got up and walked out the door before he was finished admiring it. Forget the coffee... he will just follow behind as long she is in view..

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TheLapDoctor1161 reads

Good for you miss berkshire. There's a good reason why god gave some of us a special nose for red flags. Kudos that you recognized them, and had the fortitude to simply walk away. You can always make up that missed session, but you would kick yourself for days if your suspicions came true.

I tend to side with florafun that this was probably not LE. LE's usual MO is to get you to entrap yourself as quickly as possible. Someone who asks question after question after question is probably a guy who gets his kicks out of meeting pretty women in the ruse of a possible connection. You should have checked his hands. I would bet they were in his pants squeezing his jimmy as you talked.

Plus, even the most rookie police detective would never make a juvenile move like following you out the restaurantto watch you walk to your car. That's straight stalker and someone you should delete instantly from your cell phone.

Believe me, from a guys perspective, if you can get a girl to actually show up for a pre meeting to have a drink, and you can see her live and in person, further questions exposes you as either a complete dumbass, or potential undercover.

Close call indeed. Glad you were able to walk away with nothing lost but your time.

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Fit-To-Fuck1278 reads

Either you screen and accept, or you screen and deny.
What did you expect to talk about? The weather? Of course there will be discussion about services and the session. Surely you expected that, right?
You should never have agreed to the "drinks" in the first place.

That said, you were probably correct in walking away, but should never have put yourself in that position in the first place.

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oleoneeye1458 reads

Meet and greets have been a common screening tool for both provider and hobbyist for decades.  I doesn't replace other references but certainly adds to both party's comfort level.  They benefit the hobbyist more than the provider as you have the opportunity to see if its a bait and switch.  You NEVER use them to discuss services or costs however.  You chat for about 15 minutes and the provider asks you things about what you do for a living, where you are from, etc, etc.  In this case it worked well for her because the questions gave him away.  Could have been a thrill seeker I suppose but I have asked for meet and greets quite often if its a TOFTT situation.

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aliasnumber11230 reads

I would say the chances of that being LE was probably about 99.9%

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HBS12241 reads

should not be a flag one way or another - vice LE can and do drink - and yes - they can let a lady touch him - and can even get naked - none of that erases LE tag.  Good VERIFIED Refrences are the only good LE and Creep screen.  They are a pain in the butt for every one - but safety for all first!!  IMHO  Hobby Well - Hobby Safe

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TiffanyBerkshire1478 reads

I agree somewhat with one person on this board when it comes to the idea that I should've never put myself in that situation, but I tend to be a generous person, and whats one drink? After all, he did hand me $50 just for meeting him for a single drink. Which makes me teeter even more wondering if most of you are right that he was just 'window shopping' and wasting my time rather than being affiliated with anything else. Ah well, lesson learned. :)

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EZride4u1348 reads

didn't you ask for references?  were they screened?  I don't care how "new" they are or what their so called story is.....don't even MEET them without references!
Red flags were flying from first contact IMHO.

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TiffanyBerkshire1840 reads

I did ask for references. And I was waiting to hear back from them. It was just a drink in a public place. No harm done. But I'm always always always asking for references. No exceptions.

Posted By: EZride4u
didn't you ask for references?  were they screened?  I don't care how "new" they are or what their so called story is.....don't even MEET them without references!
Red flags were flying from first contact IMHO.

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