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DirtyJesus 445 reads
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And this is EXACTLY what I would be looking for and hoping for from a "Body Rub" type provider!

TalonTed1969 reads

Expect at least 50 minutes, and no less.  If we all do this the providers will eventually get it.  I don't care what we do in between shots, we can talk about the freezing weather or whatever

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wadzilla691159 reads

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DirtyJesus1359 reads

And at best im good for 30min these days before I've exhausted my reserves of seminal-fluid, so what the hell do i need the other 20+ minutes with her for?? To "Talk"? To "cuddle"?? To "cry in her arms"? Like a little fgt??? NO!! Pull up your pants man and get out of her way! Go make some money or something and use it to come and see her AGAIN when your ballz ache! (Or as in my case, most likely see someone else)

The thought that you hire a "service-provider" based on an "hourly rate" is asinine!  Pay for the "SERVICE" you want and then be CLEAR with her what your expectations are and negotiate a PRICE for that service! If she dont preform the service to the agreed level of expectation, post a negative review on Angie's List and let capitalism take its course! (ie: TER)

This notion that an escort is your "hourly-employee" comes from so many middle-manager-types seeking extra-marital sex to replace the sex they aren't getting from their wives because they run their home with the same low-brow hourly-mindset of punishments and rewards that they manage their offices with and it produces the same miserable morale at home as it does at work!

When you've got your nut for the day, LET THE POOR GIRL GET ON WITH HERS!!!  

 

Posted By: talon199094
Expect at least 50 minutes, and no less.  If we all do this the providers will eventually get it.  I don't care what we do in between shots, we can talk about the freezing weather or whatever.  
 

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TalonTed1157 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
And at best im good for 30min these days before I've exhausted my reserves of seminal-fluid, so what the hell do i need the other 20+ minutes with her for?? To "Talk"? To "cuddle"?? To "cry in her arms"? Like a little fgt??? NO!! Pull up your pants man and get out of her way! Go make some money or something and use it to come and see her AGAIN when your ballz ache! (Or as in my case, most likely see someone else)  
   
 The thought that you hire a "service-provider" based on an "hourly rate" is asinine!  Pay for the "SERVICE" you want and then be CLEAR with her what your expectations are and negotiate a PRICE for that service! If she dont preform the service to the agreed level of expectation, post a negative review on Angie's List and let capitalism take its course! (ie: TER)  
   
 This notion that an escort is your "hourly-employee" comes from so many middle-manager-types seeking extra-marital sex to replace the sex they aren't getting from their wives because they run their home with the same low-brow hourly-mindset of punishments and rewards that they manage their offices with and it produces the same miserable morale at home as it does at work!  
   
 When you've got your nut for the day, LET THE POOR GIRL GET ON WITH HERS!!!  
   
   
   
Posted By: talon199094
Expect at least 50 minutes, and no less.  If we all do this the providers will eventually get it.  I don't care what we do in between shots, we can talk about the freezing weather or whatever.  
 
Yeah, maybe for you old folks this might be true.  But us younger guys can pop 2 or 3 times in an hour, given a little times in between

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DirtyJesus1197 reads

Again though this is an issue of cheapness and hourly-wage-mentality that brings that kind of thinking.. Ask any of the guys on this board that know me, i often see two or three providers in a day of over a weekend... I like multi-pops just as much i just hire and pay accordingly rather than trying o "maximize"  my dollar at the expense of the girl... And trust me when I say I ENJOY THIS HOBBY WAYYYYYYY MORE THAN YOU! Believe that! Hahaha!

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TalonTed1174 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
Again though this is an issue of cheapness and hourly-wage-mentality that brings that kind of thinking.. Ask any of the guys on this board that know me, i often see two or three providers in a day of over a weekend... I like multi-pops just as much i just hire and pay accordingly rather than trying o "maximize"  my dollar at the expense of the girl... And trust me when I say I ENJOY THIS HOBBY WAYYYYYYY MORE THAN YOU! Believe that! Hahaha!
It's got nothing to do with cheapness.  How would you feel if you hire someone to come and be a cashier for a day at your hot dog stand and they leave after 4 hours and expect a full days pay?

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DirtyJesus1194 reads

No wonder you're so disappointed with the services you're getting! You go into this with the completely WRONG premise of what type of career-choice whoerdom is! It is a "professional-career" not an unskilled hourly-wage job!  When you go to your dentist, and your appointment is one hour long, do you expect the dentist to spoon with you on the chair for the rest of the hour if it only took him 11 minutes to pull your rotten tooth?? NO!!! You got what you came for, now get out of the way of all the clients waiting behind you!!!

Of what you really seek is multi-pops, then just tell the girl and have her agree to a price for you to get two or three nut-rockets out of your system, regardless of the time involved! But if you need a certain number of minutes of "companionship" because your lonely, tell her and set a timer! But don't expect your dentist to stand their with his fingers in your mouth for the rest of the hour just because you "paid for" his time in your mind! These girls are "career-women" and you'd do yourself good to treat them as such, not like they're a line-cook in your personal cafe!  

If you infact hire a "kept-girl" like I have numerous times in life, then the agreement is for a length of time, usually weeks or months... But i'm still not going to expect her to keep her ankles tucked behind her ears for the entire length of time ive "contracted" her for!!  

 

Posted By: talon199094
 
Posted By: DirtyJesus
Again though this is an issue of cheapness and hourly-wage-mentality that brings that kind of thinking.. Ask any of the guys on this board that know me, i often see two or three providers in a day of over a weekend... I like multi-pops just as much i just hire and pay accordingly rather than trying o "maximize"  my dollar at the expense of the girl... And trust me when I say I ENJOY THIS HOBBY WAYYYYYYY MORE THAN YOU! Believe that! Hahaha!
   
 It's got nothing to do with cheapness.  How would you feel if you hire someone to come and be a cashier for a day at your hot dog stand and they leave after 4 hours and expect a full days pay?

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kimcorruttela1084 reads

You are a hoot! haha
I'm not going to volunteer my opinion, as that would get too political, but you have such colorful language and a hilarious take on the hobby. I found it amusing and refreshing, especially the dentist part. I wonder if mine would spoon with me. lol

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DirtyJesus895 reads

But he has magical fingers and can toss my salad like nobody else! (I just feel sorry for the next client after me, because my Dentist will "work with out a glove" for an extra c-note! hahaha!)

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TalonTed1021 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
But he has magical fingers and can toss my salad like nobody else! (I just feel sorry for the next client after me, because my Dentist will "work with out a glove" for an extra c-note! hahaha!)
Dentist don't advertise themself by hourly rate.  You go to dentist for a particular need and they provide a service for a price, not by the hour. My braces, was originally to take one year and I agreed to pay for a set price.  Now, it's been over 1.5 years and I still have my braces, but they didn't charge me more.

Big difference here is that 100% of the providers advertise(or told you their  their hh/hr rate), NOT for a particular act

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DirtyJesus903 reads

But go to Nevada and try out some of the legal-brothels or ANYWHERE else in the world that prostitution is LEGAL and you will see that price-per-service is how prostitution-services are sold and billed for... And the "time" that is quoted is just a max-estimate for booking and appointment setting purposes...  

I don't expect i'll change your mind on this, but as you continually go from disappointing-session to dissaponting-session in life and continue to wonder "why you can't get the girls to do what you want"... Just remember, I damn near ALWAYS get what i want and often more! And i'd venture to say MY level-of-play and the services i recieve are at a whole diffeent level than what you've been able to achieve (and it goes WAY beyond squeezing out 2 or 3 pops into some generic-condoms before the timer goes off!)

 
Also, dentists do infact "scedule" clients on an hourly-basis, same as escorts, but they do not "bill" on an hourly-rate,,, Just like escorts don't either... Regardless of how you read the writing in their ads - again, try showing up with a boquet of "roses" to your next appointment, since most girls write THAT in their ads as a form of payment as well...

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TalonTed806 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
But go to Nevada and try out some of the legal-brothels or ANYWHERE else in the world that prostitution is LEGAL and you will see that price-per-service is how prostitution-services are sold and billed for... And the "time" that is quoted is just a max-estimate for booking and appointment setting purposes...  
   
 I don't expect i'll change your mind on this, but as you continually go from disappointing-session to dissaponting-session in life and continue to wonder "why you can't get the girls to do what you want"... Just remember, I damn near ALWAYS get what i want and often more! And i'd venture to say MY level-of-play and the services i recieve are at a whole diffeent level than what you've been able to achieve (and it goes WAY beyond squeezing out 2 or 3 pops into some generic-condoms before the timer goes off!)  
   
   
 Also, dentists do infact "scedule" clients on an hourly-basis, same as escorts, but they do not "bill" on an hourly-rate,,, Just like escorts don't either... Regardless of how you read the writing in their ads - again, try showing up with a boquet of "roses" to your next appointment, since most girls write THAT in their ads as a form of payment as well...
Yes, I know it's illegal to advertise for certain service for $.  Even after you pay them their fee, they'll tell you their hourly rate and never mentioned that their going to give you the boot after you pop

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Dr.BudGreen1085 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
Pull up your pants man and get out of her way! Go make some money or something and use it to come and see her AGAIN when your ballz ache! (Or as in my case, most likely see someone else)  
   
 When you've got your nut for the day, LET THE POOR GIRL GET ON WITH HERS!!!  
Screw that, I want a backrub before I go back to work!

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DirtyJesus951 reads

Even in a AMP or Jak-shak the "session" you are paying for is billed according to the number of minutes the masusse spends ACTIVELY RUBBING you... And so many guys get this one upside-down and wrong too! If you want EXTRA services from your massage-provider, then you pay for those services separately and in addition to the massage... Otherwise just lay there until your time is up while she rubs your junk...

-- Modified on 1/24/2014 5:17:26 PM

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Dr.BudGreen1064 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
Even in a AMP or Jak-shak the "session" you are paying for is billed according to the number of minutes the masusse spends ACTIVELY RUBBING you... And so many guys get this one upside-down and wrong too! If you want EXTRA services from your massage-provider, then you pay for those services separately and in addition to the massage... Otherwise just lay there until your time is up while she rubs your junk...  

-- Modified on 1/24/2014 5:17:26 PM

Are you really yelling at me because I'm willing to pay a little more for the convenience of one stop shopping?

-- Modified on 1/25/2014 8:52:27 AM

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DirtyJesus811 reads

The theme here isn't the type of "extras" we all want, its the way we go about getting them and what we expect when we pay the initial cover-charge...

Posted By: BenSubdude
 
   
Posted By: DirtyJesus
Even in a AMP or Jak-shak the "session" you are paying for is billed according to the number of minutes the masusse spends ACTIVELY RUBBING you... And so many guys get this one upside-down and wrong too! If you want EXTRA services from your massage-provider, then you pay for those services separately and in addition to the massage... Otherwise just lay there until your time is up while she rubs your junk...  
   
 -- Modified on 1/24/2014 5:17:26 PM
   
 Are you really yelling at me because I'm willing to pay a little more for the convenience of one stop shopping?

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Sailana1426 reads

..... when I pay for an hour, I expect no less than an hour. Assuming I arrive on time of course. If a provider wants to give me only 50 minutes, she should advertise "50 minutes for $X".  

If I paid a consultant what I pay a typical provider, I'd expect the full time I paid for also. :)

I haven't had much trouble getting the time I paid for. The few times there was a problem, it only happened once. ;)

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DirtyJesus1314 reads

If you hire a "consultant" to give you educated opinions about business or other issues, then you are consuming their "time" and they can not be selling that "time and knowledge" to anyone else... But if you hire a furnace-repairman, then billing is don on a "parts and labor" scale for their time, unless they are installing a new furnace, then they give you a "bid" and they provide you with a result matching your expectation regardless of time... But if you contract a painter (skilled-indepentent-contractor) and tell them you want your room painted blue, they give you a quote and you pay it and they take whatever time it takes to change your room to blue! Because you are paying for a RESULT not a length time for them to stand there and stroke your wall with a brush!!!

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Sailana867 reads

But providers are many things, depending on how they approach the business, and the client's attitude towards them.  

How many providers say, "you are paying for my time only"?

If I'm just paying for their time, I want all the time I'm paying for.  

You pay for a result. And you've made it clear what that is. I pay for an experience. The more time I get to revel in that experience, the better.

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DirtyJesus1300 reads

Do you also show up with a bouquet of roses because she mentioned that in her ad??  No! We read between the lines and realize that the "time" mentioned is just a way to express levels of service and apply a monetary-amount to it without saying something incriminating... Routinely girls spend way more time with me than i paid for when they have no other clients scheduled... What im trying to express here is that why you guys are having such a hard time getting girls to stay the full amout of time is directly related to this attitude of hourly-pay that you hold onto like its some sort of Gospel!

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Sailana1016 reads

Posted By: DirtyJesus
... Routinely girls spend way more time with me than i paid for when they have no other clients scheduled...
I had this idea you were a pay-for-service kinda guy, based on your earlier posts.  I'm unclear though why you'd hang around so long with a provider. Surely it can't take longer than the time you paid for to "do the deed"? Could it be you just like the experience of hangin' with the lady?

Like you, providers routinely spend more time with me than scheduled if they're open afterwards. So I don't think your theory about guys having trouble getting the full time they scheduled just because they expect to get that much time holds any water

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DirtyJesus1240 reads

I'd never do it to a provider though, but it's not uncommon for a girl to say "can we go get something to eat" or "can I just sleep her tonight, I don't have anywhere else to be" or "wanna see a movie?", But I'm not going to EVER hold a girl to stay "every minute" of the one hour session just because "damnit, I paid for this time and I want my money's worth" like some of the guys here are implying!

I'd venture to say that if you have girls staying beyond their "time" with you that you too have evolved beyond the clock and they must just respect you for it and enjoy your company...  

(Or maybe your just too fat for them to get around and you're blocking the hotel room exit while you take an extra 20min to wrestle on your socks... And it's just too awkward for her to ask you to move aside... Hahahaha!)

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Sailana1078 reads

No one, including me, have said here that we "hold" a provider to staying every minute of the agreed-upon time, as if we're blocking the door with our fat butts  :)  or swear at them about the time they "owe" us or whatever. If a provider chooses to end the session early, so be it. Most likely, that will be the last time she ever sees me though. But it hasn't been a problem for me. Only had one provider ever end a session early, it was the first time I saw her..... also was the last time. I don't think my socks were the issue there.

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DirtyJesus1164 reads

That premise is the WHOLE REASON this thread exists!

talon199094 Posted 1/24/2014 at 10:28:48 AM  "Be a man and stand up, if you paid for 1hr"

"Expect at least 50 minutes, and no less.  If we all do this the providers will eventually get it.  I don't care what we do in between shots, we can talk about the freezing weather or whatever."  


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Sailana815 reads

It's all about what guys EXPECT re time with the provider. Nothing about what we DO if we don't get the full time. Nothing about flinging expletives at the provider, as you portrayed, because we didn't get the full scheduled time. Nothing about blocking them from leaving the room, as you mentioned.  

It could be as simple as what I said..... if we don't get the full time we scheduled, we can decide whether to see the provider again or not. If we don't return when we get a short session, that will send the message to the provider that we'd like the full time we scheduled with them. And if we write a review, we can mention the time issue there.

As I said, you're reading too much into this..... assuming behavior that IMO wouldn't be respectful or appropriate.

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DirtyJesus943 reads

Talon1990-94 is CLEARLY issuing a "rally-cry" in his subject-line and asking men to band together "make these girls realize their mistake" by demanding the full hour or at least 50 minutes of it...  which is the wrong-premise for this hobby COMPLETELY! That it the point that I continue to reiterate and further widen the angle of my flood-lamp on as we continue to illuminate this topic!  

I'm merely pointing out the opposites of this grievance and misplaced call for justice and community action that he is suggesting and bringing to light that the "hobby" has become "time in exchange for cash"   System ONLY as a means to skirt the laws of selling sex for money, and NOT because most providers work off of a time-clock... Yes, there are exceptions to everything, but in my experience [which i have yet to meet my equal] using "time" as a form of equity with the girls will only get you LESS over all satisfaction and "effort" on her part to tease and please...

My challenge for anyone is try this experiment with ANY provider and see what result you get: say to her "i will pay you your full hourly rate, but i only need 25 minutes of your time... What can you do for me to make our time together amazing and memorable?"   And i will be proven RIGHT in everything I've said on this thread! Just try it and see...

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Sailana905 reads

.... you're assuming every guy is like you and sees providers only to "drain our nutz", in your words. Of course you can do that in only 25 minutes or so. If that's all you want from a provider, WHY WOULD YOU PAY FOR AN HOUR? Lots of providers offer 30 minute sessions. Why pay for an hour if all you want to do is "drain your nutz" and scoot outta there?  

I don't doubt that you are right.... for yourself, and for other guys who think like you about providers.

But that's not me.  In fact, I think I'm going to start doing "WWDJD" wrt providers. That is, I'll think to myself, "What would DirtyJesus do?"  

And then I'll do exactly the opposite.  ;)

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DirtyJesus885 reads

if you pay a girl her "half hour rate", you will get less of a service, regardless of how long you stay... Likewise if you pay a girl her "full-hour-rate" you will most likely get an improved level of service... Unless she can tell that you're going to milk her for every minute of time, then you will end up with a half-hour-level of service stretched out over a full hour length of time...  

For the most part, girls are selling "quality" and guy are looking for "quantity"... Then later I see guys whine in there reviews about how uptight the girl was, how many "rules" she had, how rushed they felt, how "everything was covered" etc, etc... When I know very well from being with those VERY SAME GIRLS that they very willingly to do WAYYY more than those reviews suggest... So why is that?? It's for the very reasons I've mentioned on this thread...  

WWDJD - bracelets are a great marketing idea! In the years to cum if I continue to build this brand like I did the BD-brand, perhaps I'll launch a product line ;D I'll get FuzzyPhallus from NYC to be my marketing-agent then I can use the money to pay girls their overnight-rate just to stay until I've hit my 5-nut limit! hahaha!

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nobodysfool2007854 reads

I think what DJ is attempting to get across here, is there is quite a huge gulf between what he does, and what talon expects, and DJ is just offering his M.O.  to others.

I am much like DJ, in that I am not interested in keeping track of time, as much as I am more concerned with the quality of services within a specific session.
Like DJ, I would speak to a provider, and state what I desired, and establish a platform with which to operate. Time was not so much the issue, as it was more about a provider following through on an agreement. ( example. availability, punctual, proper hygiene, attitude, and performance, within an understood period of time, if things finished up early, Great! then the provider was free to hit the bricks! If she wanted to hang out and so on, and I was open to the idea, then Great

Rather than insist that myself or DJ are correct, What is more acceptable, would be to say,  
" Each to their Own"  
But a key word," Communicate " your desires to the provider, as well as be specific about the amount of time you Expected, and allow her to agree to this, Then if she does not hold up her end of the bargain, Walk away! and post a review stating your experience.  
You cannot control how others operate, and so forth, but you can sort out the lazy, from the motivated.  

Posted By: DirtyJesus
if you pay a girl her "half hour rate", you will get less of a service, regardless of how long you stay... Likewise if you pay a girl her "full-hour-rate" you will most likely get an improved level of service... Unless she can tell that you're going to milk her for every minute of time, then you will end up with a half-hour-level of service stretched out over a full hour length of time...    
   
 For the most part, girls are selling "quality" and guy are looking for "quantity"... Then later I see guys whine in there reviews about how uptight the girl was, how many "rules" she had, how rushed they felt, how "everything was covered" etc, etc... When I know very well from being with those VERY SAME GIRLS that they very willingly to do WAYYY more than those reviews suggest... So why is that?? It's for the very reasons I've mentioned on this thread...  
   
 WWDJD - bracelets are a great marketing idea! In the years to cum if I continue to build this brand like I did the BD-brand, perhaps I'll launch a product line ;D I'll get FuzzyPhallus from NYC to be my marketing-agent then I can use the money to pay girls their overnight-rate just to stay until I've hit my 5-nut limit! hahaha!

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DirtyJesus1020 reads

"Each to his own" or "live and let live" are fine ways to just shake our heads and walk away... However when I see these same guys continue to grumble and complain about the way these girls treat them during their sessions, and then I see their posts of how the "girls should change" or the community of hobbiests should "stand up" and demand this or that, I feel the need to jump with my dick out and try to "educate" or at least introduce a deconstructive-waveform of thought that'll break up their wake before it hits shore...

Rather than some guys continuing to do the same thing over and over expecting different results, I think that beating these topics to death sometimes does at least have a positive effect, perhaps only to those who read quietly and modify their mods-of-operation according to what they learn, rather than continuing to defend what isn't working for them and demand change from everyone else...

I find stuff on the boards ALL THE TIME that i take from and incorporate into my game! It's not a bad thing to debate perspectives or philosophy...

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KiaLove990 reads

Some guys like to talk for their time. I look at it as they pay me for a hour, so that is the arrangement. when guys pay and go they are usually the ones that are respectful. I book appointments based on time,so you tell me you want a hour, I will make my next appointment and hour after so im not bothered by chatting for 15-20 mins.

Posted By: DirtyJesus
If you hire a "consultant" to give you educated opinions about business or other issues, then you are consuming their "time" and they can not be selling that "time and knowledge" to anyone else... But if you hire a furnace-repairman, then billing is don on a "parts and labor" scale for their time, unless they are installing a new furnace, then they give you a "bid" and they provide you with a result matching your expectation regardless of time... But if you contract a painter (skilled-indepentent-contractor) and tell them you want your room painted blue, they give you a quote and you pay it and they take whatever time it takes to change your room to blue! Because you are paying for a RESULT not a length time for them to stand there and stroke your wall with a brush!!!

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DirtyJesus1303 reads

An hour wouldn't be nearly enough with you! You look very "spoonable", perhaps an all night pajama-party would be more the level of "comfort" I'd seek in our time together! ;D   (But I'd expect to pay accordingly, not see how many miles-per-dollar I could squeeze out of you!

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mschambers1139 reads

If the guy gets up and gets dressed I'll take it as a hint he's ready to leave. If he lays in bed I will lay with him and encourage more foreplay or whatever comes our way. I try not to rush but can be prompt when I have other things to take care of that evening. It is all in your power, guys, if a lady gets up and tries to leave ask "oh, is it *time of departure* already?" that will give the hint that you want all of the time ... not just a pop... but you won't have to be rude and say "why are you leaving so soon?!"

Just an idea :)  

xo

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