If I am using my iPhone as a wifi hotspot, could a provider use that wifi access to check into her TER account while visiting me (home or hotel),

thanks

She's supposed to be providing for you not surfing the internet .
 Unless that's some kind of fantasy role playing thing .
You know...lady gets all hot reading reviews and then gentleman sneaks in in her and reenact the experiences she's just read? Heehee
I would think that it's not a good idea at all though.  
If you're both using the same network,  that looks sketchy.

so typical of you- what the fuck do you care why this might be happening?  Provider might be doing an overnight and wants to check in to her TER PM- Shit I might be on a weekend fuck fest with a provider.  

Thanks Ms Know-it-all for taking the time to chastise me

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Oh probably because you'd get yourself banned for it .  
So how about instead of being an ASKHOLE .
Take the advice and shut up.
Thanks ! Xo!

FROM EXPERIENCE, logging into a providers account from a hobbyists network( hot spot or whatever it looks sketchy as hell on their end. Rightly so.
 If anyone remembers a couple people were caught doing this and it didn't turn out well.
Now if she were to use the WiFi provided by the hotel that would be different...
One more thing, if you're seeing a lady that does over nights can't she afford to use her own from her own device ? One would think so ...
Xo V.


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may you should STFU.  Oh, yeah, I forgot- you are the Board Police.  

Remember- I asked a question- you don't have the answer, but you just can't resist the opportunity to tell others what they should do.  I did not ask for your advice

TER userid, has signed into that IP....any reviews especially if you wrote a review of her
will be under scrutiny.

If TER (and presumably other similar sites) see that a provider and hobbyist are using the same IP, they tend to presume either a pimp relatationship or a hobbyist trying to crash the provider boards etc.  This results (as has been discussed here many times) a severe restriction of services to all parties

checks her TER account...would the review of your Wife be allowed?

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As a provider I have always even wondered if I am a girlfriends house and want to go to TER, what would happen if I logged in and it was not coming from a different IP address?  Consequently I never do, because I think long ago I did and it was questioned? All I know is that they do keep an eye on the IP its coming from. Being careful is the best way to go I think. J. xxox

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Each device would still have to go thru the default gateway.

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The best thing is just turn off the wifi. If it aint on, no one can access it. It's not rocket science.  

Also, Thumper, maybe calm down a bit in regard to your response to someone whom you claim that you did not ask for their opinion, when you quite clearly did that in your original post. Telling someone to "Fuck off" after you posted a question that you could have easily researched online in any number of reputable tech sites other than this one that specifically is not techie oriented is kinda in poor taste. The info you get in this forum is always tinged with a bit of expected criticism and why would you expect reliable info on a site like this that functions in a gray market and is not a reliable source of tech info.

Go to Start lower left corner...type CMD...then type ipconfig...it gives you...

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

         Connection...
         Link-Local...
         IPv4 Address.  .  .  .  .   99.241.238.185
         Subnet Mask...    
         Default Gateway.  .  .    99.241.238.1

99.241.238.185 is your IP...if you change the router between your cable modem and PC/Laptop,

99.241.238.185 (which TER keys on in there logs), will change to something like 99.241.238.333.

If you don't believe me, try it for your self.  Hence your a new user to them from a completely
new device

have answered my real question- and I asked for tech info not her usual line of "I know everything" bullshit.

She told me to Shut Up initially- I gleefully added the "F" up- I did not tell het to "fuck off"- did i? I asked to to STFU-  So get your fucking facts straight.  

I don't think I made my point or question clear from the onset

A friendly provider is with me (I know, hard to believe).  I make my smartphone into a wifi hotspot.
She accesses my phone's wifi hotspot to access the internet - and connects to TER.Does her business- or pleasure- and disconnects her smartphone, laptop, iPad or tablet.

The question-I guess- is this a co-used ISP as far as TER is concerned.  Or is it like using a hotspot at Caribou or any free wifi location.  Maybe to add to that question- if a hobbyist and a provider are having coffee at a Caribou and they both access TER on different devices - will it look like they are in cahoots?

I, in the meantime, do access TER from home on my DSL wifi.  Not using my phone's wifi.

Now this is getting more interesting, both the clarification of the original question and the dynamics of some of the personalities involved.
Either way I'm not a techie and thus have no clue...guess I must be a "people-person" lol.

You guys are answering the question as if he is asking about using his home wifi.  He's not, he's talking about using his phone's hotspot, and that's a different answer.  My home internet connection changes external IP addresses rarely, about once a month.  Sometimes rebooting your cable or DSL modem will fetch a new address, but often times you end up "renewing" the old address you already had.  But 4G is a different animal entirely.

In my carrier's case, I am NAT'ed when using 4G.  That is, my phone gets assigned a private, not-visible-to-the-web IP address, and my traffic onto the web will come from an anonymous IP address belonging to my carrier.  Your carrier may either assign you a private address (often a 10.x.x.x address), or, they may place your device directly on the web with a public IP address.  If they do the latter, that address is likely to change very often, maybe every time you connect.  You can use any number of websites available that will parrot back to you the IP address from whence you came.  This allows you to see how often it changes, and also see if your device's 4G address is visible to the public, or if you "hidden" inside your carrier's private network.

So, the fact that he's talking about a phone-based 4G connection results in a very different answer than talking about a home wifi router connected to cable or DSL.

However, I would not recommend signing into ANY non-encrypted website from ANYWHERE except your home connection, or on your own 4G connection.  As I have posted before, when you log in to TER, it would not be a difficult matter for the owner of the wifi hotspot to "sniff" your password because the connection is not encrypted.

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Sounds like somebody really needs to get laid. Now if only there was a place to go for that... Hmmm

But he can still turn off his wifi on his iphone as a security precaution. Which is what I recommended before he called me a dipshit. Too leave it on is just inviting trouble. The risk is there but it is nothing so extreme as to get your panties in a bunch over. Of course it would not necessarily have to be the provider in the room. It could be the guy or the teenager in the hotel room next door or the person sitting in a cafe with a wifi pineapple sniffing out access point all around him. Short answer to our OP with the overly sensitive tech nerve, is yes a provider could access his phones network.  

Realistically if he wants a detailed accurate answer to his question, there are better more reliable places to ask this questions than on this testosterone fueled (for good and bad reasons) forum. For example, why would you go to a florist to ask questions about your cars fuel injection? Asking that question here, and then getting all snotty when the first female makes a offhand comment in a joking manner is just so ... typical of what happens here. Guy asks question on forum, guy gets pissed when he doesn't get the answer he wants, guy blames person for responding because his feelings are hurt. What a waste of the internet.

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Yes — despite its freewheeling nature, the Internet has rules; here are three of them (and yes, you can look this up if you'd like):

Rule 14: Do not argue with trolls — it means that they win.

Rule 34: if it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.

Rule 434: Google it first or STFU.

Don't know nothing about phones but as for your IP address at home...

    1. Without a router, your IP address starts with a different starting number (ie. 75.111.222.333).
        With a router, 99.111.222.333.
     
         It seems each new device (cable modem or router or DSL modem ) gets  
         assigned a new IP number  If you unplug these (even if you do a ipconfig /release before)
         and plug them back in, your Internet provider remembers those specific hardware items
         and keeps assigning the same IP number. Unless like you said, its been a long  
         time (maybe months, etc...)

 

       
       

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someone (technical background) actually read the question and had an educated answer.  

it wasn't that difficult after all.  In fact, that is what I suspected. Thanks again

Smells like P.B. in here just saying....
Also if you don't want a provider to try and assist you then go to a men's only forum and you can swing your giant dick around over there.  
You never specified if you used your iPhone to log in to your account here or not so one can't help but assume that you do and so that's the answer you'll get.  
If you have conflicting IP addresses on the same network neither of you would be able to get online durrrr...
So, if she's using your hotspot account which is basically the same as your phones signal it'll appear as if you're logging into her account vice versa. People don't always catch it but it could happen and that means you could get banned until you fix the problem.
If you're so worried about security then you should not be on the internet or own a mobile device and you should move to a remote island immediately ! - Don't forget your tinfoil hat so the NSA can't read your thoughts !
You asked for a techies help and I'm one of them .  
Sorry, I have a vagina and over 20 yrs of acquired tech experience including mobile services and network configuration.
If you don't want help then don't bother asking, don't start yammering on like you're some tough guy because you misworded it.
I WAS being nice to you but you chose to be a complete jerk to me for NO REASON.  
I hope you enjoy your day !  
Xoxo V.

It is such fun and so easy to do.
This post truly made my day.  

Omega got the drift- without my help.  

thanks again.

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Note: I am addressing a larger security issue.  

If  you're really concerned about tech security then the best you can do is use bit torrent and then a proxy and then stay away from emailing any provider who uses gmail (google especially more than anyone else), yahoo, hotmail, msn or any commercial unencrypted service and then use a service like the preferred "hushmail" service from Canada.

If more clients and providers care about anonymity then they will drive the TER community culture toward it by using these services.

Even if you or I use hushmail, if the email goes to gmail then it is tracked and google will actually read the contact every time and then they sell this to data brokers, etc. for target ads.  Will it eventually be used by LE.... if you are concerned about this then stick with those providers with hushmail.  The problem is that comcast still does this too, but if you make it so google doesn't have it then you are just making you harder to target then the other bloke who is making it easier than you.

For now, they are just targeting us for ads.  No big deal.

But, privacy matters.  

As far as safety, my spy friend gave an analogy.   This is what they taught him in the CIA for avoiding terrorists:   "Two guys are running from a bear.  One of them says: 'I don't think we're faster than the bear.' The other one says: 'I don't have to be faster than the bear. I just have to be faster than you.'"  

Hushmail, Bit Torrent, Proxies, scramblers... one or all of these is just making you harder to catch and less appealing to LE than those who are blatantly out there on Twitter, google, gmail., not screening, not verifying, etc.

Or, you might just bank on local LE not ever bothering searching your virtual world. We are all banking on it.  However, if you are pinched... and you want to make things a harder for LE, then every little precaution counts.  At least be able to run faster than the other fellow beside you from the bear.  There a millions of us "misbehaving" ... just be in the front of the pack as much as you can and they do go for the low hanging fruit.  

The truth is, if they really really want to get you, personally, then your efforts for anonymity must be very tight.  It's doable, but is allot of effort.  

My opinion is that I must go through some effort.  I am not scrambling all of my keystrokes on my computer at this point.  But, I am now even thinking about a scrambler.  I completely understand that not everyone is of this opinion.  I do believe in privacy, though, dammit; and want to stand for it.  This tracking is clearly against my constitutional rights to privacy.  That sucks.  So, do I claim it back through this much effort?  It certainly benefits my safety, too.  And yours.  

Alas, I use a smartphone and hushmail from my smartphone.... iPhone and T-mobile are in play here.  If I am backed into a corner and they find this phone... then the convenience bites me in the ass as I've got emails on my phone.  I can add more security to that too. Anyone who emails me will notice I never mention anything blatantly too flirtatious.  Anyone asking for naked pics is shut out and down and put into a spam folder.  Yikes.  Those who ask for a description of my services, same thing.  Duh!  Use TER and P411 for that... not your gmail account.  Yeeesh.  

Complete privacy is regrettably an impossible mess if I want to use convenience. I just use more precautions than most.  

I do have a question about twitter.  Why do some providers feel safe in showing their face, posting on twitter, etc.?  On the one hand I like that brave souls show up LE by being so blatant and out there in the public sphere and helping this hobby be more accepted by the en-mass presence of escorting via twitter that is prevalent.  On the other hand my cautious personality shudders at the thought of being so exposed and being caught by the bear.  

Is the jeopardy of my safety in this regard being my over-cautious bent?

Then again... if LE is salt and peppered with leadership as bad as the Richfield Chief of Police who got stung by using backpage provider without a reputable TER or P411 history and gets stung by being that stupid.... maybe I can count on LE being very pre-occupied with chasing their tails on much larger matters.  I think too many bank on LE being too pre-occupied, but maybe they just periodically sting someone to put up a face to the public as showing some effort and really rely on the low hanging fruit.  Or does this Chief of Police's stupid move give me a false sense of security if I use him as a litmus test for where things are really at with they hobby and law enforcement? What do you think?

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no she can't check into TER from my mobile hotspot (aka my smart phone) and not get in trouble with TER
or no something else-
quite the cryptic answ

Woah...as a maybe-future-provider, you gave me a LOT to think about.  

Thank you

just f-ing TER.
You surely spent a lot of time on that answer-

Maybe you should start a new thread- this post didn't have anything to do with my original question

My inquiry had NOTHING to to with LE.

Don't worry little thumper your responses to almost every woman here have already made your point....that you don't like women and that you need to be the center of attention. Someone reminding people not to be the low hanging fruit may be the only good thing to take from this long and boring thread.

As they can change based on the political season, who gets elected, and other events but as best I can tell they mostly go for the low hanging fruit (the frequent BP stings), the big targets (agency busts) but sometimes put more effort into it, if for no other reason than to try and make more of us think we are not so safe after all.  Of course, this has always been true.  If LE is willing to devote the resources, they can catch any of us they choose to.