I'm just curious to know what criterium a girl has to have to work in a club?  If a club girl commands more money why don't the Street walkers follow suite and go for the better working conditions.  I'm guessing looks have alot to do with it although i've seen some amazingly undesirable looking chica in clubs.  Are there other restrictions for them?  paying bribes favors territory/pimp affiliations, health??

When the weather conditions get worse i just feel bad for some of them when they begin to freeze their asses off.

Looks have nothing to do with it.  Many SG's make more than the average bar girl.  Also many don't like the bar smoke (you rarely see a SG smoking) and don't like to drink.  Many don't want to socialize and have to drink and dance with clients.  They prefer working on the streets.  And of course many have pimps (padrotes) that make them work on the street.

Juan

To begin with, let me say that I am not an authority on SGs.

But I see several things in your post that strike me as off the mark a little.

If you take a SG up to a room for an hour and you will be paying almost the same rate as you would with a bar girl so I would disagree that the bar girls make better money.  $30 for 15 minutes is the common denominator.

High volume bar girls most certainly make better coin, but then there is a reason for that as well.

I would say that the criteria is more likely to be drug habits that separate the SGs (excessive) from the bar girls (moderate to none).

I also would take exception to the streetwalker description as most SGs appear to stand in place in front of their hotels and do not approach cars driving by.

The bars definitely regulate the chicas based on current health cards, but all sex workers in TJ are required to have current health cards by law.

On the other side of the coin, I saw a couple of chicas get busted by the inspectors today for not having their paperwork in order (and that was in the bar).

What about the possibility that SG's are underage or have not passed their std exams? I've read this on a board 2+ years ago. I don't know how true it is but it kinda fits the bill.

Also, it seems that some SG's near HK have some type of arrangement going on; they won't go to any other motel other than their own. Word has it that their $20+5 jobs is for the Johnny cum quickly types and not very personable.

I've got to admit that I've seen some pretty fine ladies on the street but haven't ventured off the sidewalk with them. Anyone with knowledge/experience on this topic please do follow up.

I have had the opportunity to experience a few street girls in the last year.
I feel that for the most part the girls are perhaps a notch or two down from the girls in the clubs as far as looks go.

Age seems to be a little younger as well, but I am only speaking from my point of view.

My experiences have been very impersonal and usually 30 minutes or less. Most the time the clothes dont even come off. So if that  will bother you negotiate before going up.

I have been using these girls as warmups for my bar girl encounters. If you will, a very nasty lap dance. I am picky so I will sometimes walk the whole line of girls and if they dont make the grade then I pass and head back to the bars. I am no Don Juan in the looks dept, but I have the cash to be picky.

Sometimes you will find a beautiful younger sg and by all means go for it, you almost cant lose for the 20 bucks. What will 20 get you in a Strip bar here in the states??  

oc out

I've witnessed the health card inspectors going down the streets checking for currently updated cards and no problem with most SG's.. They just whip out the card and it's biz as usual..

I do SG exclusively but won't say why, it's a matter of personal preference.. You only have the price of a lap dance invested so it the session goes South not big loss.. With a bar chica you are out $40 to $60 plus the price of the room.. You could have had 2 to 4 SG's for that...

"I would say that the criteria is more likely to be drug habits that separate the SGs (excessive) from the bar girls (moderate to none)."

Just the opposite in my experience.  Only SG's on drugs are those who show obvious signs.  The others won't even have a beer or smoke a cigarette.

I also like the fact the SG's have natural titties and rarely a tattoo.  The bar chicas wear wigs, have fake nalgas and tits not to mention the tattoos, smoker breathe, drugs, novio/padrotes, etc..

But then again I know chicas who work both the bars and the street or have recently made a switch from one to the other.. What do you sat to that?

It's too easy to make judgements based on a chica's "environment".. Only real difference is some stand in a smoke filled stinky, stuffy bar with a lot of drunks and others prefer their own space without pressure to turn in fichas and shit..

I have been hitting the streets of TJ for the last 8 years or so and have found inconsistcies with street girls and the way they put out. Of course they are less expensive primarily because of them being insecure to go up against the far more prettier girls in the clubs. Then again I have seen many club girls that are disgusting. There is a few street girls that do put out, meaning you dont have to negotiate for all clothes off etc.. I can tell you about one in particular that a friend turned me on to. She stands in front of the Valentina bar. She has long hair and always has it in a pony tail. Thin nice body and is pretty awesome for $25.00 . She is worth it and you should give her a try. Oh she does have very distinct big brown eyes! Cutie!!

Good luck!

I don't have much experience with the SG having only tried it once.  (I saw the girl on the way to CC.  She was young and cute and you know which head was in control.)  The price was good but the experience was far from the GFE I try to obtain.  (Which, for me, as a minimum must include DFK and a cbj from a girl without any clothes who is friendly and pleasant to be around.)  Since then I've asked several SG girls for the services (especially DFK) that I want and haven't found any takers even when I offer additional money.  I'd like to hear from anyone with information about obtaining DFK and a GFE from street girls as I'm always open finding a better experience.

I have done many bar and SG's.  I haven't done escorts at this time because it's just not my thing and I like other monger friends of mine can get long sessions (past an hour) for the normal $40-$60 price.  I don't need to do escorts in TJ but if that's some guys thing, it is his time and money.

I would also agree that most SG's that stand in one spot all the time, don't do drugs.  Kri Kri (crystal) use is rampant in many bars.  The exception to SG's doing drugs is around the Najera Hotel in the alley by Constitucion.  I like the independent SG's that walk around that most never get to know because they only work 1-2 hours when they need money and don't stand in the same spot when they work.  Unfortunately, most of these walk around SG's do drugs.  Most maintain very well and can give you the best sessions.  With these independent chicas, I would watch your possessions in the room more carefully, since they may be doing drugs and it's harder to find them.

Health cards outside of AB and CC have always been a joke.  Most small bar chicas don't have them and when the inspectors come in, they all scatter.  I would guess that some SG's may have health cards because they are so visible amd most stand in the same place every night.

The more you go to TJ the more things you will find easier.  French kissing is not the norm with the regular SG's but it can be found.  BBBJ's and even anal can be found for a price or just knowing who does what.  As is also said in TJ, YMMV. (your mileage may vary)  Many mongers get different sessons with the very same chicas.

Juan

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