I've heard a few of the California escorts who read TER will be making a point NOT to see anyone who has ever gone to TJ.

They're concerned about safety issues.

Not to take sides one way or the other, but I did find it interesting that none of the girls in question have ever been to the TJ clubs or have any first-hand knowledge of the girls there.

Unfortunately, Tijuana has the bad rap that it's dirty and disease ridden city.
Some parts of the city are dirty but what city doesn't have some type of ghetto?
I'm sure there are a few ultra clean cities, but not many.
I'd say that on average, the girls in TJ are more health conscious than the average girl in LA, California or in the United States.
You have to really look hard (LOL) to find a girl that will give a BBBJ. Almost all BJ's are covered.
Most TJ girls won't kiss either light on the lips or DFK.

The TJ girls have to have their health cards to work.
Sure, there is corruption and I'm sure some might buy their cards with a bribe, but that's more of an acception.  
Are these so called health conscious girls also just doing CBJ's and no kissing at all?

I wonder how many girls in the US get regular health check ups?
I doubt very many do on a regular basis. I personally go on a regular basis, but how many here, either female or male, get regular check ups?

If any providers want to not see me, no big deal. It's their choice and mine. I'd say these health conscious providers need to scrutinize the international travelers since many other countries aren't as vigilent with their providers as the officials in Tijuana. STD's are much higher in other parts of the world.

These girls are naiveté if they just screen against guys that go to TJ or Mexico, they need to screen against guys that travel all over the world. I believe it was a few years back, I read that Thailand and the Phillipines has a really high rate of HIV infection.

Stereotypes exist because of ignorance.

I have walked out on a few girls in the US due to poor hygiene or needle marks, but in 15 years of going south of the border I have never had a single instance with a TJ girl.  I'm sure they are many in TJ, but if you stay to the "legitimate" bars, houses, and parlors you will find many clean girls from which to choose.  

If you hang out in the alley looking for a $20 bbbj you will find the same type of questionable girls who would perform such an act for a pittance here.  Read the reviews for San Diego girls and you will find many where guys question cleanliness, but I challenge you to find a single instance of one in TJ.

Stereotypes exist because they are generally true; they are the accepted rule, not the exception.

A provider (well Known) said Before things stared don't cumm in mouth and a cover is a must I told her I always use one and she said that alot of guys are asking to go bareback ?????????? for extra money

I'm not so sure. The past few days I've been reading the message board chica.net (or whatever it's called) just for kicks and there's a lot of talk about going bareback with the girls in TJ. I haven't been there in a long time (about 16 years) so things may have changed but when I used to go there bareback was OK (course it was here too until the mid 80's).

Anyways, I don't understand what the attraction about TJ is. I don't feel like driving 2.5 - 3 hours to get there, then hook up with a girl or two who is going to be fucking at least a dozen other guys that day, and then driving 2.5 - 3 hours back again.

I can spend the same or less at an AMP here in LA and only have to drive 20 minutes each way.

I can't say I've had huge numbers of experiences with providers on either side of the border, but having been with quite a few bar girls, massage girls and incall girls in TJ, hygiene has never been an issue and none have ever offered up BBFS.

Now, if there actually *are* US-side providers who will not see someone if they have played in TJ, I would think that maybe, just maybe it is a matter of trying to squelch the competition. Let's face it -- this is a business and many of us who don't mind the trip over the border find the service to be exceptional for half (or much less) the cost of the same (or not as good) provided here in the USA... and without the LE issues and sometimes intrusive screening that goes with it. In other words, every time I visit SD and go to TJ for fun, I am paying down there instead of in SD.

If they truly are concerned about health issues simply because a potential client has played in TJ, they need to get in touch with reality. I'm sure US providers, if they think about it, must admit they are sometimes seeing guys who play with much more dangerous pussy in the US than anyone pays for in the usual places in TJ.

dawctor

Service to anyone they damn well please.
But I will be dammed if the ladies who I
have heard spew vitriolic waste regarding
gentlemen who see ladies in TJ, don't have
a history in their reviews of seeing men
who have reviewed TS's and even ladies who
have a 'history' of providing BBFS to fellows
north of the border--a practice that one does
not encounter south of the border.

I think they are maintaining standards for their
clientelle they just can't keep themselves.

But that is just my opinion, and most of the time
I am full of shit.

--Marty

I was wondering how the California provider would obtain the information about the client in advance of having spent time with him.

Did he try to use one the TJ internet chicas as a reference, or did he try to get a price reduction because "he can get for cheaper down south", or what?

I have ever been denied for being proficient in the TJ scene, and in fact, I have had the good fortune to actually be able to take more than one provider down there to "show her the ropes".

The bar chicas have to have a current health card to work, and among the internet chicas, Rosalba used to keep her health card on the living room coffee table to show her clients that she was "clean".

I challenge those same California providers to start documenting their recent STD testing for us to peruse before we consent to doing business with them.

I posted "a question for providers" on this issue,on the SD boad.Sofar no replies.Does anyone think i hit a nerve,or is it simply a lack of interst in the topic?

I've been a TJ regular for over 10 years and have never picked up an STD, however, I've had my share of STD's here in the USA..

All from so called "nice girls", not sex workers..  My only concern is the guys who frequent Asia the cum back to TJ in between trips bringing with them who knows what?

Ok, so they're nationalist, not racist.

Once you guys realize how much better things are south of the border you will have no need for these CA "providers".

What makes thing in TJ Better?

1) selection

2) not illegal in the zone of tolerance

3) far less expensive

4) cleaner girls -of course the CA escort have an agenda and will try to feed that agenda that stereotype that all Mexican working-girls have std's. They will do everything they can to avoid the fact that the working girl in the zona of tolerance get tested every couple of weeks and must have health cards to work(if you don't believe me ask to see them). In the US ask these girls to see the results of their last STD test(if they have ever had one) and see how current it is.

late one night, watching a couple of drunk gringos brawling, Federales closing in.

Aqui tenemos due process.

In all my years of going to TJ I've never seen a all-out brawl, but then again I avoid the Revolution dance clubs that the young San Diego punks go to drink at because they are underage in CA.

Tijuana IS NOT the United States and play by a different set of rules. Any that goes down there to cause trouble better not expect to be able to walk the street again in just a few hours if arrested.
BTW, there IS due process in Mexico. You do have the right to a trial. Just don't expect to get that trial in a timely manor like in the States.

Don't forget prostitution IS NOT illegal in the zona of tolerance. You don't have to worry about getting arrested for it like you do in the United States.