Just returned from the LA Meet and Greet Lunch. And quite frankly, there was a big disappointment!
Even though I didn't host the get together, I knew the particulars. We had 35 ladies that requested an invite to the lunch. And there were some on a wait list.
However, only 10 or so showed up!! Granted they were a spectacular 10, but still 10 out of 35. Ladies, the gents paid $80 to attend this lunch. The ladies as always had their lunches paid for as part of the $80. Honestly, we don't attend these get togethers (lunch or my parties) to sit and talk with each other. We do that enough already. We really don't even go for the food. We view it as a chance to meet maybe somebody new or to meet somebody we have had our eye on for awhile. We all understand that sometimes business gets in the way. However, I do know that plenty ladies who attend these events block out the time to attend.
In short, ladies, we want to meet you. Thats why we spend the money we do. But quite frankly, if ladies are not going to attend, there probably isn't a reason to have these get togethers.
It is just plain rude conduct that costs other people their time and money. That 25 out of 35 of the women who committed to the event did it is mind-boggling. Each one of them owes Beat Poet an apology for her rudeness. What's obvious is that there's little incentive for someone like BP to go to the trouble of organizing these luncheons; or for someone like me to support them if the fair ones among us take a "Let them eat cake" attitude.
I'd like to hear from some of the women who joined us for lunch today to learn what they think.
Posted By: bond007
Hello,
Just returned from the LA Meet and Greet Lunch. And quite frankly, there was a big disappointment!
Even though I didn't host the get together, I knew the particulars. We had 35 ladies that requested an invite to the lunch. And there were some on a wait list.
However, only 10 or so showed up!! Granted they were a spectacular 10, but still 10 out of 35. Ladies, the gents paid $80 to attend this lunch. The ladies as always had their lunches paid for as part of the $80. Honestly, we don't attend these get togethers (lunch or my parties) to sit and talk with each other. We do that enough already. We really don't even go for the food. We view it as a chance to meet maybe somebody new or to meet somebody we have had our eye on for awhile. We all understand that sometimes business gets in the way. However, I do know that plenty ladies who attend these events block out the time to attend.
In short, ladies, we want to meet you. Thats why we spend the money we do. But quite frankly, if ladies are not going to attend, there probably isn't a reason to have these get togethers.
I had a number of ladies email or txt me last min that they weren't able to attend. Your notices helped me to free up some needed tables for the restaurant to use. I am very grateful to the ladies who made it out, even for those who came near the end of the lunch party. Thank you to both groups of lovely ladies. You actions will be remembered.
I want to thank the gents for coming out and supporting these events with your time and money. This is a community-run event. I'm just a normal guy who wants to see old friends and make new ones. I also understand that the world can be against us and our plans, but I would like to get some acknowledgement that you won't make it.
At the end of the lunch, I'm down some money for empty seats that are part of a party contract. You can't get large dining reservations without a required headcount and deposit. Unlike an open-ended evening party where we just have a bar tab minimum, lunches require exact number of seats/guests. Each seat costs $40, so a gent pays for himself and a seat for the ladies. I had about 22 guys and 11 girls, with an adjusted seat limit of 50. 17 seats were left, so you can do the math. Personally, I don't care much about the deficit in the cash, but on attendance. Like I mentioned before, a word of warning is worth a lot to me. Just not getting an email, txt or call is difficult to explain to my paying and attending guests.
Anyhow, live and learn. Bond is right. This can be disconcerting to someone who can't handle hosting and rejection. Good thing for me that I have a tough enough skin. Will I host another lunch? If the demand is there, I will.
I hope that those who made it has a fun time. Great seeing you all!
Thank you for putting on another fun lunch. It was nice to meet some friends (providers and hobby guys) and catch up with some old friends. Your lunches are always a nice, relaxing to mingle. I am looking forward to more intimate conversations with those of you who know who you are.
A big kiss to you BP Madison
Posted By: beatpoet
I had a number of ladies email or txt me last min that they weren't able to attend. Your notices helped me to free up some needed tables for the restaurant to use. I am very grateful to the ladies who made it out, even for those who came near the end of the lunch party. Thank you to both groups of lovely ladies. You actions will be remembered.
I want to thank the gents for coming out and supporting these events with your time and money. This is a community-run event. I'm just a normal guy who wants to see old friends and make new ones. I also understand that the world can be against us and our plans, but I would like to get some acknowledgement that you won't make it.
At the end of the lunch, I'm down some money for empty seats that are part of a party contract. You can't get large dining reservations without a required headcount and deposit. Unlike an open-ended evening party where we just have a bar tab minimum, lunches require exact number of seats/guests. Each seat costs $40, so a gent pays for himself and a seat for the ladies. I had about 22 guys and 11 girls, with an adjusted seat limit of 50. 17 seats were left, so you can do the math. Personally, I don't care much about the deficit in the cash, but on attendance. Like I mentioned before, a word of warning is worth a lot to me. Just not getting an email, txt or call is difficult to explain to my paying and attending guests.
Anyhow, live and learn. Bond is right. This can be disconcerting to someone who can't handle hosting and rejection. Good thing for me that I have a tough enough skin. Will I host another lunch? If the demand is there, I will.
I hope that those who made it has a fun time. Great seeing you all!
First of all, Thanks poet, for putting it all together. But major disappointment in regards to the ladies not showing. It was rude. One or two cancellations is one thing, but a 60% cancel rate is ridiculous. Again, it's not so much the money, but my time, which is valuable. I reschedule my day to make the lunch. I agree with Bond, if the ladies are not going to attend. we shouldn't bother. For some of the gentlemen, who can't attend the evening M & G, these were a great opportunity to meet the ladies. I for one will most likely cease my attendance. I have one or two ATF anyway....so I'll save what precious spare time I do have for them. Peace and love. Peace and love.
i'm with you, i have a couple of atf's and they are dynamite and a great time, esp. for the donation they ask me for. why bother trying to make new friends if the new friends are going to be flakes at the very beginning of it all?
of those who signed up and those who didn't attend. If we had made an appointment to see them and was a NCNS, then there would be hell to pay. We probably would get blacklisted.
Unless they have a damned good excuse, next time they sign up, they don't get accepted until a couple of days before the event.
I let Beatpoet know last week that I was not going to be able to attend. I'm not sure if my name was removed from the final list, but I did inform him he could "book" my spot.
I have hosted many evening M&G's and it is so frustrating and down right rude for a lady or guy to pull a NC/NS. As Beat Poet points out, we go through a lot of planning and make financial commitments based on a certain number of guests and to have so many cancellations is such a let down. Even same day cancellations with notice is difficult since usually by then I have already committed to food and beverage by then so I am "all in" by that point.
I certainly understand that life happens and some times things come up that can't be deferred but I have a hunch that this is not the case most of the time and rather the lady has a new confirmed appt that she feels she needs to take. I get that but please try your best to re-schedule that date for another day so you can attend the party or see if your gentlemen friend may want to join the group (with proper screening of course). I hate it when a guy comes up to me and asks "is so and so here?" and I have to tell them 'No - she canceled today" I often tell the ladies that it is a bit shortsighted to skip one of these events for another date since they are so infrequent and the potential long term positive financial impact from meeting new clients will always outweigh the short term loss. Plus at my parties ladies usually see people before and after the party so there usually is no short term loss either.
To each his own but it is exactly this type of issue that causes most hosts from continuing to have parties when the stress and frustration reach an unacceptable level. This is too bad because these parties are truly a great resource and tool for everyone and we all benefit so give it careful consideration next time you think you have to cancel at the last minute.
attitude some fellow hobbyists have about the luncheons. Dudes, DO NOT RSVP if you only "think" about attending or "fantasize" about attending a luncheon with stunning women. This is a fun way to do some homework on your "list". "S" happens at the last minute, as life intervenes, and BP understands this but that does not excuse boorish and insensitive behavior that borders on irresponsibility. BP stated that he would seek out No-Shows for compensation & I for one believe he should follow through with that plan. I believe he should publicly call out the most blatant scofflaws by somehow posting those who did not offer any kind of cancellation notice and Ladies should keep that list as a warning that those called out are unreliable Hobbyists. On the other hand, Ladies who just no-showed with no proffer of notification should also be called out in public. I for one will NOT be seeing No-Shows in the future, whether it be a "Luncheon" or "Party". We have a vibrant and congenial(for the most part) community. But community is made of individuals and a community can only stay vibrant if it's members continue to support community activities.
Posted By: bond007
Hello,
Just returned from the LA Meet and Greet Lunch. And quite frankly, there was a big disappointment!
Even though I didn't host the get together, I knew the particulars. We had 35 ladies that requested an invite to the lunch. And there were some on a wait list.
However, only 10 or so showed up!! Granted they were a spectacular 10, but still 10 out of 35. Ladies, the gents paid $80 to attend this lunch. The ladies as always had their lunches paid for as part of the $80. Honestly, we don't attend these get togethers (lunch or my parties) to sit and talk with each other. We do that enough already. We really don't even go for the food. We view it as a chance to meet maybe somebody new or to meet somebody we have had our eye on for awhile. We all understand that sometimes business gets in the way. However, I do know that plenty ladies who attend these events block out the time to attend.
In short, ladies, we want to meet you. Thats why we spend the money we do. But quite frankly, if ladies are not going to attend, there probably isn't a reason to have these get togethers.
You all have given much to think over when I host the next lunch. This was a minor, yet understandable, speedbump.
Life goes on. All is forgiven and, soon, forgotten. No matter how much we try to wrest control of our plans and desires, we don't always get what we want or need. I want perfection, but I've forgotten what perfection was. I wanted a packed house,, but that wasn't the most important. I saw a number of social virgins, venturing out of their comfort zone to meet others. I cannot say what their motivation was, but I don't think I was the object of.attention, haha. I think back on the event, saw people from all over, come together and have a meal together. No strings attached. Just friends whom I am fortunate to have met on this wild journey.
I hope you will take a step back and see the awesomeness of what transpires on a daily basis, let alone the lunch itself. I had a great meal, exchanged a few playful flirts, and established and nurtured bonds of friendship. If this isn't what you are looking for, then maybe these events aren't for you. I cannot control who shows up on any given day, but I am happy when new and familiar faces make it.
To those good friends who offered monetary compensation, your kindness will be remembered. I cannot acceptcash, but I will accept the gesture in support of our community.
This post is one of the best posts I have ever seen written about the spirit of what a M&G should be about.
This was just a luncheon. Where like minded people take some time away from reality and enjoy each others company(flirts too) while dining on a delicious meal.
From what I heard, Beat has thrown many stellar luncheons in the past and this is just one that was less than stellar. It just happens sometimes. I am sure when you all go to the next one, you will all be raving how wonderful it was and wont even remember what happened yesterday. I'd bet a session on that, if I were a betting man.
You will never know why the 17 ladies did not show, either something important came up or they just didn't give a dam. But remember, you all had lunch with 10 beautiful woman, that was way better than my lunch that day.
Life is short, disappointments happen. Life goes on and the next luncheon will be a blast.
I agree with joco & ken. BP you are a true Gentleman and articulate spokesman for M & G's in general. I for one, am honored to attend the PoetMan's Luncheons, as they continue to be a very pleasant way to meet "new" friends, and catch up with others I have known for a few years, in a relaxed epicurean atmosphere. BP, I support your dilligence & creativity in finding venues for our daytime gatherings, and actually pulling together an eclectic group of attendees. Thanks again BP.
Posted By: beatpoet
You all have given much to think over when I host the next lunch. This was a minor, yet understandable, speedbump.
Life goes on. All is forgiven and, soon, forgotten. No matter how much we try to wrest control of our plans and desires, we don't always get what we want or need. I want perfection, but I've forgotten what perfection was. I wanted a packed house,, but that wasn't the most important. I saw a number of social virgins, venturing out of their comfort zone to meet others. I cannot say what their motivation was, but I don't think I was the object of.attention, haha. I think back on the event, saw people from all over, come together and have a meal together. No strings attached. Just friends whom I am fortunate to have met on this wild journey.
I hope you will take a step back and see the awesomeness of what transpires on a daily basis, let alone the lunch itself. I had a great meal, exchanged a few playful flirts, and established and nurtured bonds of friendship. If this isn't what you are looking for, then maybe these events aren't for you. I cannot control who shows up on any given day, but I am happy when new and familiar faces make it.
To those good friends who offered monetary compensation, your kindness will be remembered. I cannot acceptcash, but I will accept the gesture in support of our community.
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