: Massage Parlors Discussion : If & when you want both a real massage (professional) & sex, do you ever prefer happy beginning ...

DeClemente 48 Reviews 6438 reads

posted 4 years ago

1 / 21

If & when you want both a real massage (professional) & sex, do you ever prefer happy beginning ...

...instead of a happy ending?

For instance, whether you're at a massage parlor or seeing an escort, you want her to do the sexual contact and subsequent release first and then begin the massage, making it the way the session will end.

Personally, I love the relaxation of a massage so much that I want it to be the way things end instead of the way things start. There's relaxation that comes along with having sex and ejaculating, but for me, they're not the exact same kinds of relaxation as a massage. It's difficult to get some providers to change their set routines, sometimes they think I mean that I only want sex and no massage, or they think that I just want a quickie massage as the last 10 minutes of an hour session. This is especially difficult to explain when there is the Cantonese-English or Mandarin-English language barrier (even when using Google Translate).

Sometimes with an escort as opposed to a massage therapist who also offers sexual contact, the escorts aren't always good at giving massages, real massages. She'll give great sex, but a lackluster or listless or uninspired so-called massage.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 419 reads

posted 4 years ago

2 / 21

I love the release first approach

But, except in the FBSM world, it’s hard to find practitioners adept at both.

For some reason I can’t put my finger on, I lost interest in FBSM. But there are providers adept at both available. There are even orgs that specialize in that approach. Or in whatever order you prefer. The only one I know of near me is invite only these days. So I can’t recommend one to you.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 401 reads

posted 4 years ago

3 / 21

Re: I love the release first approach

Posted By: useyrhead

Re: I love the release first approach
But, except in the FBSM world, it’s hard to find practitioners adept at both.

For some reason I can’t put my finger on, I lost interest in FBSM. But there are providers adept at both available. There are even orgs that specialize in that approach. Or in whatever order you prefer. The only one I know of near me is invite only these days. So I can’t recommend one to you.

Thank you, useyrhead. It's no sweat the part about you not being able to recommend to me a place or a provider, I'm not looking for a recommendation for myself, I just wrote the question to stimulate some traffic on this Discussion Board by zero g what other people's thoughts are. I guess I should have made that more clear in my post.

mrfisher 112 Reviews 426 reads

posted 4 years ago

4 / 21

I have experienced a happy beginning...

and it has a lot to recommend it. There's nothing quite so wonderful as nice deep massage AFTER the first coming. Many times, the gal would do an hour massage, plenty of time for me to recharge (At least it was 20 years ago.)

There were also gals who did the happy ending in the middle, and gave a nice frontal massage including a great cranial and facial.

When I see regular escorts, we always massage each other, and I have them go first, then proceed to the main course, and have them then massage me. It's a great time.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 400 reads

posted 4 years ago

5 / 21

Re: I have experienced a happy beginning...

You’re right. I forgot about regular escorts. When I used to see them more often than I do now, I found that it is actually quite common that they are at least good at massage.

About 6 years ago, the escorts I saw who were at $400 and above all had much better than average massage skills. I’m not sure what the price point those escorts are at now.

I had one relatively local escort I would meet at a very upscale hot tub place and we’d rent a room with a hot tub and sauna or steam room (depending on what was available) for a few hours. We would do a relative (to me) quickie. Then we’d hit the hot tub to warm up the muscles further before she gave me a massage. Me being me, the massage rarely lasted too long. She was pretty darned hot. She always looked like she had just stepped off of a Victoria’s Secret runway. Her naked body next to mine got just the response you would expect and we’d go at it like rabbits until we had to stop.

Steve_Trevor 412 reads

posted 4 years ago

6 / 21

Agreed

that happy beginnings are better than happy endings. That’s why most of my favs are escorts who’re also good at massage. Sometimes we don’t get to the massage, but when we do it’s usually an exchange massage.

lopaw 29 Reviews 401 reads

posted 4 years ago

7 / 21

I prefer the HE in the middle

For me the perfect massage is the slow tease on the 1st hhr on my tummy, the HE on the flip, and the last 5 or 10 minutes finishing up with a head or foot massage. Heaven!

DeClemente 48 Reviews 403 reads

posted 4 years ago

8 / 21

Re: I prefer the HE in the middle

Posted By: lopaw

Re: I prefer the HE in the middle
For me the perfect massage is the slow tease on the 1st hhr on my tummy, the HE on the flip, and the last 5 or 10 minutes finishing up with a head or foot massage. Heaven!

That sounds great, lopaw. Thanks for answering.

fairoaksva 33 Reviews 396 reads

posted 4 years ago

9 / 21

Love the happy beginning

I think the Happy beginning followed by a good massage is purrrfect!

DeClemente 48 Reviews 394 reads

posted 4 years ago

10 / 21

Re: Love the happy beginning

Posted By: fairoaksva

Re: Love the happy beginning
I think the Happy beginning followed by a good massage is purrrfect!

Thanks for answering, fairoaksva. You and I think alike in this one.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 399 reads

posted 4 years ago

11 / 21

Re: I have experienced a happy beginning...

Posted By: mrfisher

Re: I have experienced a happy beginning...
and it has a lot to recommend it. There's nothing quite so wonderful as nice deep massage AFTER the first coming. Many times, the gal would do an hour massage, plenty of time for me to recharge (At least it was 20 years ago.)

There were also gals who did the happy ending in the middle, and gave a nice frontal massage including a great cranial and facial.

When I see regular escorts, we always massage each other, and I have them go first, then proceed to the main course, and have them then massage me. It's a great time.

Thanks, mrfisher!

luvmtiter 111 Reviews 413 reads

posted 4 years ago

12 / 21

I rotate the two...

I recently discovered a local rub and tug near me that provides excellent service and the girls are pretty hot. They think of me as a regular there and are clearly upping their game by offering extras that I used to ask for but stopped. Their service was limited to "Happy middle". I told them that "I love this place and the girls, if they don't wanna boomboom me that's cool, as I have AAMP's on my phone for that".

Mama has lately been asking me "why no see you three week?" I tell her I was needing boomboom, and I go to the other place; clearly frustrated, now she is texting me and saying she has new girl for me and I will LIKE her. We all know what that means...

Sorry for getting off topic... The two experiences are completely different but equally satisfying.

Being spoiled by a lovely and charming woman for an hour with a fantastic massage and very little effort on my part & "happy middle" is worth the 120.00 I pay them.

When I'm really horny, I go to the AAMP, where it's "Game on" immediately. The massage in those places, as we all so well, is usually hit or miss unless you already know the girl and her service. But if I must have sex, it's the obvious choice.

I usually alternate the two, in three or four day intervals.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 404 reads

posted 4 years ago

13 / 21

Re: I rotate the two...

Posted By: luvmtiter

Re: I rotate the two...
I recently discovered a local rub and tug near me that provides excellent service and the girls are pretty hot. They think of me as a regular there and are clearly upping their game by offering extras that I used to ask for but stopped. Their service was limited to "Happy middle". I told them that "I love this place and the girls, if they don't wanna boomboom me that's cool, as I have AAMP's on my phone for that".

Mamasan has lately been asking me "why no see you three week?" I tell her I was needing boomboom, and I go to the other place; clearly frustrated, now she is texting me and saying she has new girl for me and I will LIKE her. We all know what that means.

Being spoiled by a lovely and charming woman for an hour with a fantastic massage and very little effort on my part & "happy middle" is worth the 120.00 I pay them.

When I'm really horny, I go to the AAMP, where it's "Game on" immediately. The massage in those places, as we all so well, is usually hit or miss unless you already know the girl and her service. But if I must have sex, it's the obvious choice.

I usually alternate the two, in three or four day intervals.

Thanks for your answer, luvmtiter!

RTowers 35 Reviews 374 reads

posted 4 years ago

14 / 21

SoCal best of both worlds

I am lucky in having discovered, many years ago, a hot Thai spinner who gives a great massage and a hj happy ending. Small, pretty girl with great little body, who gives a first rate STRONG massage, and a world class hj — nothing else, ever, but it is a damn good hj and she will stroke it as long as you want within the time you have with her. I sometimes get the massage going 15 minutes or so, then tell her to stroke me off, then finish the massage. By the end, I could be snoring…. But man, talk about best of both worlds…..

DeClemente 48 Reviews 420 reads

posted 4 years ago

15 / 21

Re: SoCal best of both worlds

Posted By: RTowers

Re: SoCal best of both worlds
I am lucky in having discovered, many years ago, a hot Thai spinner who gives a great massage and a hj happy ending. Small, pretty girl with great little body, who gives a first rate STRONG massage, and a world class hj — nothing else, ever, but it is a damn good hj and she will stroke it as long as you want within the time you have with her. I sometimes get the massage going 15 minutes or so, then tell her to stroke me off, then finish the massage. By the end, I could be snoring…. But man, talk about best of both worlds…..

Thanks, RTowers, great answer.

LoFlyer 69 Reviews 387 reads

posted 4 years ago

16 / 21

Found A Solution

Unlike some, I prefer a predictably experience and, for a number of years, I enjoyed seeing a Thai cutie at a rub-and-tug salon. One day she said she was going to stop working there to go to massage school for six months. To help her with some income, I suggested that she could come to my house in the evenings after school for a two hour massage which program has continued bi-weekly for several years now. The normal routine has evolved into 30 minutes for teasing and a happy beginning, an hour for a CMT level massage and then 30 minutes for a happy ending and scalp massage if there is time. Knowing what I like, she gives absolutely the most sensual massages at the beginning and end and a real spa level massage in the middle.

Occasionally I’ll split the two hours with one of my female friends to whom the masseuse is happy to provide a happy ending as well.

After massage school, the masseuse ended up being hired by a couple of the high end spas and no longer does rub-and-tugs except for me and a couple other private clients of hers.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 403 reads

posted 4 years ago

17 / 21

Re: Found A Solution

Posted By: LoFlyer

Re: Found A Solution
Unlike some, I prefer a predictably experience and, for a number of years, I enjoyed seeing a Thai cutie at a rub-and-tug salon. One day she said she was going to stop working there to go to massage school for six months. To help her with some income, I suggested that she could come to my house in the evenings after school for a two hour massage which program has continued bi-weekly for several years now. The normal routine has evolved into 30 minutes for teasing and a happy beginning, an hour for a CMT level massage and then 30 minutes for a happy ending and scalp massage if there is time. Knowing what I like, she gives absolutely the most sensual massages at the beginning and end and a real spa level massage in the middle.

Occasionally I’ll split the two hours with one of my female friends to whom the masseuse is happy to provide a happy ending as well.

After massage school, the masseuse ended up being hired by a couple of the high end spas and no longer does rub-and-tugs except for me and a couple other private clients of hers.

LoFlyer, I believe you have found the Holy Grail of massages.

PeterPickle 394 reads

posted 4 years ago

18 / 21

Somewhere in between

In my early days of hobbying decades ago, all I really went to MPs for were for the endings. This was a time before online reviews and info really so if it was a new place, often you didn't know if a HE would be offered and perhaps that was the primary thing I was focused on, much more than the quality of the massage I was getting.

It actually made the experience that much more thrilling for me cause there was tension as to whether I would get "lucky" that day or not. And if near the end of the massage she started "accidentally" grazing her fingers across my cock or balls (or sometimes pressing her onto my asshole), it was almost like a cause for celebration and that probably released more tension for me than her actual massage!

So perhaps for this reason nowadays I still prefer getting a HE over a HB. Even though there's no more uncertainty to how the session will end, just the build up to the climax, if you will, and the gradual teasing before the flip is part of the enjoyment for me, and an integral part of the whole "experience" I'm looking for when I visit a MP.

I do second all those who mentioned getting more massage after the release. That's probably the best scenario in my book, getting a scalp scratch or massage on the temples and forehead or neck after the warm towel is probably the best way to end after the ending.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 393 reads

posted 4 years ago

19 / 21

Re: Somewhere in between

Posted By: PeterPickle

Re: Somewhere in between

I do second all those who mentioned getting more massage after the release. That's probably the best scenario in my book, getting a scalp scratch or massage on the temples and forehead or neck after the warm towel is probably the best way to end after the ending.

PeterPickle, thanks for giving your thoughts on the topic.

Happy_Ed 70 Reviews 423 reads

posted 4 years ago

20 / 21

Happy Beginning is great

It took me a few years to evolved to what I enjoyed. I discovered after some time, that most AMPs gals also provide FS. When I first started, it was just HJ, and I was afraid to ask for anything else. Then I wanted CBJ so I handed them a condom that they used. Then one whispered in my ear "Do you want to make love?", nodding YES, she climbed on top for CG, then flipped to mish. It blew me away. When I was with another girl at the AMP, because she was busy, they had obviously talked and was also ready for FS. Same with another girl. They all did it.

Once I figure out the donation required, ($140 for FS and $65 for the house in Redwood City, CA), I first hand them the cash up front, and there is no more discussion. She gets the condom, takes all her clothes off, and we go at it. Her bending over the table with me standing is a great doggy feel. Once we are finished, she puts her clothes back on, and does a great massage. After a Happy Beginning, I feel great with the massage.

I have had occasion to visit other AMPs in San Francisco. The process for a first time:

1-Have a condom and the cash in your hand hidden under the towel.
2-When she comes in be laying on your back with nothing on.
3-Reach up and stroke her ass and boobs. She may start touching you. If she does not argue then proceed to step 4
4-Hand her the condom and let her see.
5-Show her the cash. She will probably take it away, go clean her pussy, and come back ready.

Best of luck.
Ed

MrLightning 14 Reviews 396 reads

posted 3 years ago

21 / 21

massage parlors

There is on woman at a Santa Cruz AMP that will do full service first in a one hour appointment, we get to it right away, go to town for about 15 to 20 minutes, then she gives an amazing massage for the next 40 minutes. It's awesome, so relaxing to be able to unwind and all right after an orgasm, instead of rushing out the door to leave. She is the real-deal in that she definitely has massage skills, not just light girlfriend style massage (not that there's anything wrong with that) but real therapeutic skills.