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Kornudo 619 reads
posted
1 / 40

Can you imagine, BigPapasan and Beemer310 face to face, debating the different issues that are a threat to our hobby world, such as k-doll bashing, independent providers, etc. I would pay money to see that in person!

oceanpacific9 53 Reviews 1186 reads
posted
2 / 40

Why bad mouth the providers, we choose who we like and are greatful that they are there to provide what we are looking for. There are many of us that are very fond of the K-Girls but we also respect anyone that is fond of any of the other great providers but come on why the bashing especially of the K-Girls just accept the fact that they are very popular and provide a great service at a great price. Many of the other providers charge pretty high prices compared to them and the service comes with all kinds of if's. With the K-girls it does not and they are really really nice ladies. We should all accept what we like. And a great shout out to all the lovely ladies who make the hobby possible.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 820 reads
posted
3 / 40

...the adoration, adulation and downright flacking for the K-girls?  The best products don't have to advertise.  Quality and word of mouth will suffice.  When was the last time you saw a TV commercial for Rolls Royce?  

If the K-girls are that good, why do you have to keep shoving them down our throats?  It's like those religions that go door to door trying to convince you that their religion is the best.  If it's the best, people will find it themselves.

You obviously don't read the boards much because it's not true that K-mongers have respect for hobbyists who see other providers.  There are K-mongers who viciously attack non-K providers who dare to disagree with them.

Your post, while well-intentioned, is quite naive my friend.

bond007 31 Reviews 717 reads
posted
4 / 40

Posted By: oceanpacific9
Why bad mouth the providers, we choose who we like and are greatful that they are there to provide what we are looking for. There are many of us that are very fond of the K-Girls but we also respect anyone that is fond of any of the other great providers but come on why the bashing especially of the K-Girls just accept the fact that they are very popular and provide a great service at a great price. Many of the other providers charge pretty high prices compared to them and the service comes with all kinds of if's. With the K-girls it does not and they are really really nice ladies. We should all accept what we like. And a great shout out to all the lovely ladies who make the hobby possible.
Ok, I've said this b4.  I'll say it again.  I can give a rats ass about the K-Dolls vs the Non K-Dolls debate.  U see who u want to see and I will see whom I want to see.  And there is nothing else in the middle.  Period.  I'm so freaknig tired of these posts about K-Dolls, K-Dolls vs Non K-Dolls.  Blah Blah Blah.  Anybody who has been in this hobby for any length of time knows what they want and how to get it.  To talk down about 1 lady vs another lady is nuts.  And that goes for both sides.  I've seen it go back and forth.  And I repeat, NOBODY CARES!!!

Bond

Harpman60 971 reads
posted
5 / 40


to make a name for themselves no matter how ugly and to express the frustration 
Of those unable to raise their game to compete with K-dolls who sre innocent of any wrong doing. 

The K-dolls and their bookers don't post so they represent an  easy target to the haters and the misogynists most of whom never met or seen a K-dolls and do it for spite and make a name for themselves irrespective the hurt , pain a grief they cause these young women who are here to improve their lot in life by putting pleasure and joy into our lives.

Many English speaking K-dolls and all  the bookers check the board and I 'm sure they are traumatized  by the unprovoked , undeserved , unwarranted insults and demeaning descriptions of them by total strangers who have nothing better to do in their lives.       

A common jab directed at the K-dolls is their hourly rate as if $250 is chopped liver but hard earn funds.I have rarely paid less than $250 per hour for any provider least of all the K-dolls. With tips the least I donate is $300 per hour and often more than that. 

Except for the first few hours its a fallacy  to claim that K-dolls charge less than home grown independents Indeed , for the first few hours they do cost less but not for the extended sessions. The K-dolls maintain their hourly rate not so the independents whose rates go down . All you have to do is check the LA ad page and compare  the cost of extended sessions.

For those who favor K-dolls  cost is not a factor otherwise they would not have
extended appointments with K-dolls and instead see the cheaper alternatives.

Taste , comfort, personal preference and other variable factors determine choice.

Good post OP9

Posted By: oceanpacific9
Why bad mouth the providers, we choose who we like and are greatful that they are there to provide what we are looking for. There are many of us that are very fond of the K-Girls but we also respect anyone that is fond of any of the other great providers but come on why the bashing especially of the K-Girls just accept the fact that they are very popular and provide a great service at a great price. Many of the other providers charge pretty high prices compared to them and the service comes with all kinds of if's. With the K-girls it does not and they are really really nice ladies. We should all accept what we like. And a great shout out to all the lovely ladies who make the hobby possible.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 711 reads
posted
6 / 40

...about how great K-providers are.  Everyone can read the reviews and decide for themselves who they want to see; there's no need to keep pumping up the K-girls.

Beemer310 35 Reviews 584 reads
posted
7 / 40

As well as many others because the k girl topics bring in more reads than other posts.  I am gonna say it now and will keep repeating it:

Why don't you just ignore the posts? Noone is "forcing" anything down your throats. Just change the channel. Are some of you so paralyzed with indecision that you can't ignore a post that you don't like? To me that shows either stupidity or lack of personal strenght. It's like touching a hot oven each time and don't learn the lesson.

If kgirl topics are not your thing, then Move along. It is easy to say that the board is overun with kgirl topics but honestly, that is the way the wind is blowing.

So what if we hype the kgirls, there are many that are ready to demean them so easily and misrepresent them just as fast. So..you don't like a kgirl topic? Why does a certain memeber then make comments such as "I will call them k-hoes"
Hat does that achieve?

It is easy to point fingers of who started what but the it is obvious that when the anti k girl crowd starts losing, the bring out the racial slurs. Am I wrong? For myself I have always critiqued a providers service and not her racial origin but it seems for the anti kgirl crowd it is so easy to do.

Easy to say you don't care but the fact is everyone here can choose to ignore the topics they don't like but some are so intent. On trying to maintain whatever status quo they may think is here. Move on I say.

Posted By: bond007
Posted By: oceanpacific9
Why bad mouth the providers, we choose who we like and are greatful that they are there to provide what we are looking for. There are many of us that are very fond of the K-Girls but we also respect anyone that is fond of any of the other great providers but come on why the bashing especially of the K-Girls just accept the fact that they are very popular and provide a great service at a great price. Many of the other providers charge pretty high prices compared to them and the service comes with all kinds of if's. With the K-girls it does not and they are really really nice ladies. We should all accept what we like. And a great shout out to all the lovely ladies who make the hobby possible.
Ok, I've said this b4.  I'll say it again.  I can give a rats ass about the K-Dolls vs the Non K-Dolls debate.  U see who u want to see and I will see whom I want to see.  And there is nothing else in the middle.  Period.  I'm so freaknig tired of these posts about K-Dolls, K-Dolls vs Non K-Dolls.  Blah Blah Blah.  Anybody who has been in this hobby for any length of time knows what they want and how to get it.  To talk down about 1 lady vs another lady is nuts.  And that goes for both sides.  I've seen it go back and forth.  And I repeat, NOBODY CARES!!!

Bond

Beemer310 35 Reviews 860 reads
posted
8 / 40

In fact you and a handful I can name are the biggest perpetrators. When someone praises a kgirl, it seems you and your hit squad go to work ASAP.

I talk about the kgirls and their service because they are that good or even better IMO. Why do you carte how many times I post it or say it? How does it affect you? Anf more importantly, why does it affect you?

You make a concentrated effort to build the "hate" for the kgirls and each time it blows up in your face. Your posts are one of the most removed because of the hate you send out towards other hobbyists and the korean providers.

The best so far has been you and others effort to dehumanize them by comapring them to fast food joints and the like because by doing that, you make others see them as objects and something not to be considered worthy of being human.

Harpman brought up the term k doll, a term of endearment which even Hosi admitted to liking, what do you do? You try to demean them further by calling them k hoes because you didn't like k dolls?
So now in turn, the your current tactic is to call label them as mcdonalds? See how your hypocrisy has no end.

I think the underlying issue is that you can't stand the fact that harpman and myself have handed you your ass over and over again so you lash out at the kgirls because they are an easy target.

Only a coward would attack a group that can't defend themselves.

Posted By: BigPapasan
...the adoration, adulation and downright flacking for the K-girls?  The best products don't have to advertise.  Quality and word of mouth will suffice.  When was the last time you saw a TV commercial for Rolls Royce?  

If the K-girls are that good, why do you have to keep shoving them down our throats?  It's like those religions that go door to door trying to convince you that their religion is the best.  If it's the best, people will find it themselves.

You obviously don't read the boards much because it's not true that K-mongers have respect for hobbyists who see other providers.  There are K-mongers who viciously attack non-K providers who dare to disagree with them.

Your post, while well-intentioned, is quite naive my friend.

Beemer310 35 Reviews 555 reads
posted
9 / 40

yOu can easily say to people to go read reviewes, why don't you in turn tell people who don't like kgirl topics to ignore them instead of attacking them?

If you say there is no need to pump up the kgirls then let us get rid of the picture posts on tuesday and thursday. If independents are as good as they say as well then they don't need the extra advertising. The ad board is there for a purpose.


Posted By: BigPapasan
...about how great K-providers are.  Everyone can read the reviews and decide for themselves who they want to see; there's no need to keep pumping up the K-girls.

Harpman60 707 reads
posted
10 / 40

fed up or do not like a post and don't have the good sense to ignore what don't like. If somebody has masochistic tendencies and get a thrill reading posts they are fed up with  by posters who totally ignore them I am not going to prevent them from getting their cheap thrill.

This is a public board whet members can post whatever they wish within the guidelines , why should the anyone try to impose his will on those who wish to post about K-dolls.

Instead of trolling and being bitter and resentful those  who sre interested in other topics should end their apathy and post about what interests them to their hearts consent. They try to  blame the energized inspired and motivated K-doll for their own laziness and lack of initiative.

Members post about what interests them , they come to this board to enjoy reading or posting reviews or posts they do not need censors , control freak or oppressors who want to shove their hate for K-dolls down their throat.


   

Posted By: Beemer310
yOu can easily say to people to go read reviewes, why don't you in turn tell people who don't like kgirl topics to ignore them instead of attacking them?

If you say there is no need to pump up the kgirls then let us get rid of the picture posts on tuesday and thursday. If independents are as good as they say as well then they don't need the extra advertising. The ad board is there for a purpose.


Posted By: BigPapasan
...about how great K-providers are.  Everyone can read the reviews and decide for themselves who they want to see; there's no need to keep pumping up the K-girls.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 704 reads
posted
11 / 40

...ILOVEWOMEN described them as the McDonald's of the hobby and I said that was a great description.  In fact, YOU, Beemer310 also said that was a great description because you didn't remove it from the subject line!  Show me where I said that myself or forever be proven to be a liar.

I don't hate K-girls despite your one-track mind to the contrary.  If you read my posts, you will see that my comments usually involve the number of clients K-girls see - up to 11 in a 13 hour shift.  Did I make that up?  Hell no, your buddy and resident K-girl expert Harpman60 said it.  Will you call him a liar too?

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 617 reads
posted
12 / 40

...repeating the same BS over and over in hopes that people will believe it.

pdnlr15 43 Reviews 564 reads
posted
13 / 40

I have to agree if there is interest in a topic that is what is going to drive the discussion. This is a public forum and just because someone doesn't like a post that shouldn't matter as long as guidelines are followed. Right now  the "KG" posts are of interest to many reader/posters. This doesn't prevent others from posting their own topics.

pdnlr15 43 Reviews 573 reads
posted
14 / 40

Good observation on this debate themed night!! It would probably draw a great deal of interest.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 582 reads
posted
15 / 40

...on the ad board and be allowed as an exception to the one post per week rule.

If I reply to a pro K-girl post, K-fans like you see it as an attack rather than an objective presentation of the other side of the story.  You're so blinded by your devotion to K-girls that you can't possibly see that they aren't perfect.  Therefore, anyone who dares to have a different opinion than yours is "attacking."

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 672 reads
posted
16 / 40

...What is your basis for that conclusion?  Do you write down all my posts and go back to see which ones were removed?

Do you write down all the posts of other frequent posters and see which ones have been removed?

Of course not, you just make a statement without any basis in fact and hope that your sycophants say: "Yeah, Beemer's right."

Beemer310 35 Reviews 635 reads
posted
17 / 40

So by me not changing the subject line I automatically approve the term and the context it was used??? WTF??

So by your reasoning then, by saying it is a great description, you are essentially making the same statement by agreeing with it. So in fact, by your reasoning, you are by default comparing them to Mcdonalds. Just becasue you agreed that it was a great description.

It becomes obvious that you and others to want to dehumanize and make the k girls seem less than human so it is easier for you and others to demean them...You know who else did that?....NSDAP did that....


Just becasue I didn't change the subject line??? Stop grasping for straws....


As far as k girl hate, it is apparent. You have a proven track record of it and many have pointed it out.

Your past comments also have outed you as a k-girl hater..

If I recall, you made a pointed effort to to paint "California girls" as nothing more than just blonde beach bunnies...(but your post got taken down...)

To me that shows how far back and how out of touch you are in regards to the changing demographics of California and LA as a whole. As Needle said, you seem to want the "races" to play their supposed "roles" and to do that you demean them or paint them in a negative light whenever anyone says anything positive about them.

As far as your posts being pulled, ummm....it is very apparent. I don't need a magic science calculator to see which posts are getting pulled.

Do you consider what Harpman says as gospel? You seem to have this hangup about the quantity of people that kgirls see. Why? Is Harpman's word something you hang onto every time he makes a comment? You have never seen a kgirl and it bothers you why? Many see them and have no hang ups except you....why?

I am sorry but Harpman is not an expert on everything Kgirl. YOU seem to want him to be by quoting him..

If that is the case then you must agree with him in regards to the independents as well. Is that the case?

My one track mind??? what?? Your main hangup for the past 2 years have been the k girls and how Harpman and I have been talking about them.

My one track mind??? what?? You just said you usually comment about the amount of clients the girtls sees...

So really, check yourself before you wreck yourself ok?


Also...why don't you follow your own advice and leave the politics on the Politics board.....talk about a hypocrite....



Beemer310 35 Reviews 555 reads
posted
18 / 40

If it is BS, then why do you keep following the conversation...seems like stupidity to me if you keep doing that.

Or possibly that you are feeling so left out that you want to be in the conversation....What hurts more than anything to an educated person (and I know you are) is being left out of a conversation..especially one they think they know something about.

Your ego is getting the better part of your common sense sometimes and it hurts. Do you see how easily he fell for the test I set up for him?


-- Modified on 10/17/2012 7:32:45 AM

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 635 reads
posted
19 / 40

I concur thank you kindly!

xoxo Smile 4 me!


FYI-If you fellas do not, like the picture threads don't click on them...  LMFAO!

LE_phobic 557 reads
posted
20 / 40

We in the land of Angels are so blessed with angels of all races, all sizes, all shapes, all skills, all orientation and from all corners of the globe. Some day we may even be visited by providers from Mars and Europa. I'll be the 1st to get in line. (lol)

h8traffic 84 Reviews 597 reads
posted
21 / 40

Nothing would make me happier than if TER would create a separate board for LA K-girl discussion.  The constant bickering really devalues the entire LA board.

dantananot 12 Reviews 509 reads
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22 / 40
dantananot 12 Reviews 616 reads
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23 / 40
cleaning_window 40 Reviews 513 reads
posted
24 / 40

I very much emphathize with bond, but would like to clarify on why I'm disgusted with these K-doll threads.  It is not so much the subject-matter because people will write about and read about what interests and fascinates them.  While bond is right that the subject has been worn out, the really objectionable aspect of these threads is the venom with which the differing opinions are expressed.  The quality of the discourse on this board is thoroughly eroded thanks to the endless and senseless personal attacks.  These attacks bore the readers and demean the authors.  We'd all be better off without them.

Harpman60 629 reads
posted
25 / 40

your biweekly photo threads , because they add to the pleasure and diversity of the content on the board. Thank you for continuing the tradition..

Posted By: Madame Patricia
I concur thank you kindly!

xoxo Smile 4 me!


FYI-If you fellas do not, like the picture threads don't click on them...  LMFAO!

SoCalSrchAgain 506 reads
posted
27 / 40

Posted By: bond007
Posted By: oceanpacific9
Why bad mouth the providers, we choose who we like and are greatful that they are there to provide what we are looking for. There are many of us that are very fond of the K-Girls but we also respect anyone that is fond of any of the other great providers but come on why the bashing especially of the K-Girls just accept the fact that they are very popular and provide a great service at a great price. Many of the other providers charge pretty high prices compared to them and the service comes with all kinds of if's. With the K-girls it does not and they are really really nice ladies. We should all accept what we like. And a great shout out to all the lovely ladies who make the hobby possible.
Ok, I've said this b4.  I'll say it again.  I can give a rats ass about the K-Dolls vs the Non K-Dolls debate.  U see who u want to see and I will see whom I want to see.  And there is nothing else in the middle.  Period.  I'm so freaknig tired of these posts about K-Dolls, K-Dolls vs Non K-Dolls.  Blah Blah Blah.  Anybody who has been in this hobby for any length of time knows what they want and how to get it.  To talk down about 1 lady vs another lady is nuts.  And that goes for both sides.  I've seen it go back and forth.  And I repeat, NOBODY CARES!!!

Bond

Harpman60 879 reads
posted
28 / 40
Harpman60 665 reads
posted
29 / 40

"If you fellas do not, like the picture threads don't click on them..." and apply it to the K-doll posts and everything else of no interest to you.

TER can also ban those who get their pleasure denying others their pleasure. the K-doll crowd use the board for what it is meant while others simply enjoy being disagreeable and anti social and would continue their antics irrespective of where the K-dolls are.


The following  links are from the Suggestion & Policy Board.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=8742&boardID=4&page=1#8742

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=8739&boardID=4&page=1#8739

Posted By: h8traffic
Nothing would make me happier than if TER would create a separate board for LA K-girl discussion.  The constant bickering really devalues the entire LA board.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 611 reads
posted
30 / 40

Glad to see I am appreciated because LA is my 2nd home!

I Love L.A.!

Posted By: Harpman60
your biweekly photo threads , because they add to the pleasure and diversity of the content on the board. Thank you for continuing the tradition..
Posted By: Madame Patricia
I concur thank you kindly!

xoxo Smile 4 me!


FYI-If you fellas do not, like the picture threads don't click on them...  LMFAO!

ingadelrio See my TER Reviews 465 reads
posted
31 / 40

I agree with h8traffic, it makes me not want to post on the LA board.  That horse is beyond dead.

Harpman60 708 reads
posted
32 / 40

yet reached K-Diva status. Hope that explains it.

Posted By: ILOVEWOMEN
What's a K Girl ?      :)

zorbaelgreeko 811 reads
posted
33 / 40

come here from Korea.....see 10-12 guys a day at let's say $250 an hour. Of course they give 50% of that to the "agency, booker, pimp".

Great deal for the "agency, booker, pimp". Not so good for the ladies. I think there is one word for that, and that word is........EXPLOITATION. Can you imagine how they must feel at the end of the day after 10-12 guys?

Of course there is also miscellanious expenses that the ladies have to cover on top of their $50%. Do they go back to Korea rich? I seriously doubt it. They work damn hard and deserve so much more.And Harper and Beemer will NEVER convince me otherwise. Just keep on posting, and bear in mind..we do NOT hate the K girls..just the "messengers".

I am not "hating" on the lovely Korean girls, nor do I have anything negative to say about them But I AM hating on their expoiters.

carlhungus 56 Reviews 554 reads
posted
34 / 40

This explains it fairly well even though it's clearly not serious.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=K-girl

KGirlCrazy 492 reads
posted
35 / 40

That argument MIGHT make sense if none of these ladies ever quit in mid-tour (which happens all the time) or if they didn't come back for second, third and fourth tours (which happens all the time).  That's called free will.  Some hate the job and quit.  Others feel differently and stay.  No different from any other job.

NeedleDicktheBugFucker 22 Reviews 570 reads
posted
36 / 40

figure 90 mins per client. 10 hour day (11-9) allows 6/day.

carlhungus 56 Reviews 525 reads
posted
37 / 40

Detractors assume the worst case scenario.  I don't believe every K-girl (or even independents) sees a guy for one hour for every hour she's available to work.  If a woman has any common sense and cares about her well being, she is not going to see guys back to back all day long.  Perhaps there are some who do, but I imagine it would be very difficult to walk after a day or two.  The fine ladies I have seen have gaits that do not indicate pain or soreness.

I'm sure the K-girls take lunch and dinner breaks.  Also, let's not forget that there are men who will book multiple hours, I know that I have, which is not unusual.    So, if 3 or 4 guys book a few hours each, that fills up a provider's schedule very fast.  I have heard that some of the top tier talent possibly are taken for an entire day or two.  

I cannot possibly believe that any of the K-girls that I have seen or will see are here in the U.S.A. "by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation."  If you believe otherwise, you are simply not informed or delusional.

Based on what I have experienced when seeing a K-girl, it cannot be concluded, on any level, that any of them are victims of human trafficking.  From what I've read in articles or seen in documentaries, it is uncommon for human trafficking victims to reside/work in luxury accommodations, drink expensive champagne and take time off as they please whether staying in town or returning home. I also cannot fathom that trafficking victims stockpile fancy gifts to hand out to their favorite regulars.

stegram123 32 Reviews 566 reads
posted
38 / 40
Harpman60 563 reads
posted
39 / 40

One has to assume that he is either a pimp or even worse a human trafficker. If that is the case, we can conclude her  must be referring of the way he exploits his victims because that is certainly not the way K-dolls are treated or compensated.

Basically he throws out  false facts and figures, about something he knows nothing about,  for no other reason than  to make the K-dolls , some of who rank amongst  the top 1% earners in the country, appear less attractive to patronize.

Another hater in lambs clothing. With sympathizers like this who needs enemies.  

 

Posted By: NeedleDick, the BugFucker
figure 90 mins per client. 10 hour day (11-9) allows 6/day.

NeedleDicktheBugFucker 22 Reviews 896 reads
posted
40 / 40

I drive up from OC and precise timing just doesn't happen but I've never been cut short of my session just because I'm 5-10 or even 15 minutes late, leading me to conclude their is at least that much time in between, I've often been offered a 2-3 hours window of consecutive hours to pick from, which leads me to believe that not every time slot of everyday is packed to the gills. and i've seen many of the top girls more than a few times.

lastly, i'm the last guy that would see a chick i thought was'nt happy doing her deal. But almost without exception, the k-girls provide an enthusiastic performance. They come by themselves on visas and many return with lots of cash..

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