Don't ever loan this girl money. I've seen her about 10-15 times and she started giving me the ol' sob story, can't pay the rent, etc...
So I was a fool and let her borrow $2,000. She promised to pay back. Of course it never happened. Wouldn't even pay back with sessions and won't return phone calls.
I know she's done it to a couple other guys as well. So watch out. Don't be a fool like me.
See link below for her profile.
to be avoided, as you've found out.
I used to date a provider that was always in financial trouble too, and I heard all the sob stories. But the only way I'd give her money for her bills was if I paid them directly. We'd typically drive to whomever needed paying, whether it was the landlord or the phone company, and I'd pay them in person. I'd never give her the money because it would never get to her creditors and all the crying would start again.
I'd never give her a loan because I knew it would just come between us, as you just found out. So help her if you want to, but don't give her a loan. Because a loan implies repayment, and that just isn't going to happen in these situations.
The first girl I would drop everything and go give her what she needed. Then when I wanted to book a session. Suddenly she was unavailable. The girl had 3 periods in a month or some other personal drama going on.
Second girl would go out of her way to pay me back. She actually drove 2 hours to meet me at my hotel. Never watched the clock.
But as a general rule: DON'T LOAN A HOOKER MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
HOOKER???!!! These girls are HOOKERS???!!! Hell I just thought I was doing great with them!!! LMAO!!! Sorry I could not resist para-phrasing one of my all time favorite movies "Arthur"! A classic!
A favorite Asian girl of mine borrowed $10,000 from me a few years ago. She was a girl I really liked and really trusted. She had never brought up money or borrowing. Then, out of the blue, she had a family reason she needed to borrow $10,000. I thought it over that night and said to myself, if she was a con artist this is a story she would certainly come up with. But I trusted her. So I decided to make the loan. I realized I was taking a huge risk. I said to myself if I get burned this is the absolute last time. But I said to myself that I really liked and trusted this girl - I thought she was very honest, which is one of the things I really liked about her and Asians in general.
She completely paid me back in sessions at the same time and price and performance as previously and was even loose (in my favor) about the time towards the end.
I am pretty sure if a provider asked me this again now I would say no. I like the providers I see, and I know some of them fairly well. But, even though I trust them I trusted her worlds more.
I lent my brother $20,000 a couple of years ago because I love him. I knew it was very high risk before I wrote the check. He conned me. I'll never see a penny of that again. When he asked for the loan I actually thought, "If I lend him the $20,000 I am probably getting off cheap." I still think that is true.
Like I said, "It all depends on who you are dealing with"!
Wow I would say that is a pretty bold statement, except for the fact that you are a coward hiding behind an alias. And you would say something like that even after one girl drove two hours to pay you back. What an ass.
Sorry that you got ripped off by the first provider, but loaning a "hooker" money should fallow the same common sense rules as loaning anybody money.
#1 don't loan more money than you can afford to lose, and
#2 if its truly a loan then get something in writing stating the terms of the loan if you ever want to get the money back.
I have loaned people money in the past, because I could and they needed it, and yes they burned me, but none of them were "Hookers" Nothing I could do about it. Live and learn. Would I do it again if someone needed it probably yes, depends on the situation. I like to help people if and when I can.
Why? Because In the end Karma is a mother fucker and what comes around goes around. And I don't want to end up a bitter cynical bitch like you.
Well said Megan.
This one time about three years ago, I loaned a grand to this redhead lady of the evening because I wanted her to get a car. Selfish reasons really. I wanted her to drive to me. Her current truck had died.
Know what she did? She paid me back in more ways than I'd ever remember. Non sexual too. One time I was sick and she brought me a get well basket. Out of the blue. Dropped it off at the house in a secret spot - texted messages me where it was. What a surprise. Since then we've become great friends. Never did the hotazonal mambo again- but damn I wanted to. She retired- moved to Florida and is now on a few tv shows.
My point is- she was the type you never forget and hooker was never 'for her' . She was more into the friendship and finding her dream man- every once in awhile she offers to pay me back- but I tell her no- that her friendship and seeing her in Florida is a much better thing for me. Someday I'll make it out there and collect all the hugs she owes me, but it just goes to show that with t e r you can make sure the girl is on the up and up. Don't let one bad egg spoil your experience. Not all of these girls are to be trusted but there is the chance you will find a gem in the rough and discover a real friend.
I've been asked for money from both civie and pro. I've learned to consider them gifts for my own sanity.
It's an excellent means to dissolve a relationship. Similar to the analogy some men attach to hiring an escort "I pay them to leave"
That girl needs to see a Dr if she's gotten 3 mensus in a month. Poor thing LOL.
You could view lending money as entertainment. I doubt you'll ever see her again so might as well keep harassing her for the laughs.
There's one provider who needed money to get back home. She SWORE she'd pay me back. So, every time she gets a new review, I send her an email asking if she's ready to pay that 300 back. I knew she'd never pay when I sent the money, but I felt sorry for her. Some people are so pathetic.
One of the less discussed rules--keep it on a professional basis. If lightning strikes and the lady becomes your girlfriend, you're dating, living together, talking about the big M, that's one thing. Otherwise, this is an exchange of cash for companionship. Once you start hearing the violins and the sad stories your best bet is to get the hell away from there. I once gave a lady some free advice--it cost me about 10 minutes of my time to look something up on the web. That's as far as I would be willing to go.
GREAT advice, phunhog. As a fellow, wise veteran hobbyist once told me, "It's all about the hour. It's a fantasy you pay for. Once you let it go outside that hour and that room, it becomes reality, WHO WANTS THAT???" To "loan" is to give a gift to these girls...
Wait…she can’t pay her rent. How that is even possible when she turns like 5+ tricks a day off hx (Saying for affect). She once complained to a buddy that was a regular how she was working so much. Oh and the freebies and discounted sessions to the hx owners and their friends. I guess it’s slow over there or maybe she lied! Obviously this provider is not to be trusted. Have you posted this over there? Or if you did, was it removed because she is protected? And here is a secret, even after 10-15 sessions you will never know the true story. Some of the providers have a different story for each guy. And over the years so many guys have been taken and played by the providers on that site. Notice how some of those never seem to make it over to TER. They are safe to pull that shit because of the admins like them or they give freebies to them, nothing negative gets posted.
I have heard the same sob story so many times over the years. When I do these days and I really like the girl’s services I offer to help by seeing her for an overnight at a discount or a weekend getaway, again at a discount. If she really needs the money and is willing to work for it they usually will take the offer. Depending on her hourly charge, for them to make that money would be so many guys. So you are offering them to make that but just having to deal with one guy. Of course there has to be some kind of chemistry between the two. An example would be a weekend (Maybe 3 days) away with her for say 1500-2000 and see if she bites. An overnight for 500-800 and do that a few times that month. A true professional will always work her regulars for sessions when she is in need and not ask for a loan.
Well, Bada isn't not on HX anymore. I never posted about it there, but I gave her negative ratings as did a few other people. So she closed her account on HX and switched to CV.
I am so so sorry this happened to you.
Some of us manage our dough very well. We can go without the designer this and that...and we put money aside for slow seasons....as in we pay our bills way ahead of time....and shop at Costco so there will be no panic buttons to push when the money is slow.
Or how about....we go get a 9-5? Yup a real job....the money is not that grand...but hey it is steady and less stressful.
So so sorry.....
Since she was an agency girl it begs the question if they are involved. I generally avoid agency girls so I can not add anything further.
I have loaned money on several occasions with the expectation that under the best of circumstances it might be repaid in sessions.
One whom I loaned money to surprised me with a call asking if she could come visit. She arrived at my place, put an envelope on the table, smiled , said thanks, we are almost even, let's take a shower and then you'll get your interest. Her car had broken the prior month and she was facing a real crisis.
Hey, you're not a fool; you're a good person who reached out to help someone. Even though you've lost some dough, you can still look in the mirror at the end of the day and respect the person looking back at you. Can this gal do the same? Just be thankful she didn't create an even worse case senario by telling you that you were very special, that she really cared about you, etc. etc. and then one day just hang you out to dry with no more e-mails, phone calls, etc., etc.. I've been there with the latter; and it hurts and yes, it makes you wonder. And of course, I also know there are hobbyists out there that will look at this and say you guys are idiots and that providers look at you as nothing more than a wallet with a dick attached. OK that's their opinion, and I'm sure some do, but in my hopeful opinion, I think there can be more - maybe two people, not being judgmental, respecting each other, even though it's a business. But yes, it can be a hell of a tough call! Anyway, thanks for the honesty. Ciao!
Not to mention a former, and most famous, employer, for a lot more than $2K.
An old hobbyist told me that once, I think it's sound advice. Lend only what you can afford to loose.
Being a jealous little bitch now, aren't we?
His game was selling $500 pussy for $250. Yours has always been selling over the hill $250 pussy for $700 and up. Ten years later, one guy is out of the game and legit, and the other still having one man circle jerks on his discussion board trying to sell that over the hill pussy for 3x retail.
You and Bada are kind of made for each other, if you get my drift. Maybe you can hook her up with some of your multimillionaire playboy high roller friends in Dubai. Oh, that was last decade, sorry.
Sorry that you lost some cash. But I'm confused, you said "she's done it to a couple of other guys as well" -- so you knew about this, then you lent her money? And if was after the fact, how did you find out she did this to other guys? And why didn't they warn you, if they were guys you know?
"A fool and his money are soon parted." You should never loan money to a working girl, unless you are prepared to lose it. We all need to think with our BIG head when it comes to money. These girls are doing it for the money, they don't emotionally connect with you. You can't trust them. Honestly, if it were me, I'd just show up at her location since you've been there 10 times and pound on her door if she's not returning your calls. I think she's an independent now, there's no way she would have done this if she is still with the agency she started out with. Just my 2 cents.
No, I didn't find out that she had done it to other guys till after. I don't know them personally. I asked them after they too gave her negative ratings on another site.
Honestly, the money is not that big of a deal to me. Not enough to go banging on her door. Just wanted to let other people know not to trust her.
As stupid as it may sound I prepaid for a session with another girl three weeks in advance way after the incident with Bada. Also needed help with rent. BUT this girl came thru, just like she said she would. So, some girls are trustworthy. I know it was still dumb, but I'm just a sucker for a pretty face.
she gave your money to her boyfriend.
thai style
I am sorry too, I mean the least you would expect is seesions, I have some wonderful dental work , but thats another story, lol, chin uo, you get odd people all over