Are there any protocols to follow when giving a gift to a k-girl? Normally, I wouldn't even think about that. But there is one, in particular, who has been wonderful to me -- above and beyond the call of duty. And she is about to head back to Korea. Can I give her a gift with a kind note without violating any rules or customs of the agency that employs her? Is there anything i SHOULD do. Anything I should NOT do? I may sound overly cautious here, but I don't want to even take a chance of upsetting the agency and possibly losing access to their beautiful women in the future.
When I say "gift," of course, I mean something in addition to the 250 flowers I am already giving her
What expressions of appreciation you offer a k-girl is of nor concern to Booker/agency. The girls appreciate a good tip but also getting them a Starbuck, a piece of cake or a salad would be greatly appreciated.
Personally I do not go for for the more expensive, intimate or personal gifts some guys shower ATF with because the could create unfounded expectations and blur the line between client and boyfriend.
I also do not appreciate having some providers ( non K-girls) list a gift/wish list on their web sites listing Dom , Prada, LV , Chanel for gifts.
Show your token of appreciation to your departing ATF but do not go overboard. Common sense will serve you well.
When I say "gift," of course, I mean something in addition to the 250 flowers I am already giving her
If you are talking about a personal item -- even a very expensive item -- a Rolex or something in the several thousand range -- that is nobody's business but your own. You pay your donation, the agency gets its cut. If you tip the gal, I assume she keeps the tip. If you give her a watch or purse or something nice, it's hers. Period. I sincerely doubt the agency has an agreement with the girl concerning gifts.... RT Over & Out
Personal item. Not too expensive. Under 200.
Your gift is your business. The agency doesn't care.
They are getting their cut and remember this.
The price of the gift doesn't matter. They make so much
that you can't give them what they can't buy themselves.
Give a token of appreciation if you like but don't make
a big deal out of it because it isn't.
if you give things like candy, perfume etc...most likely she will sell it or regift it or not eat it or trash it. i got too many of those regifts from my exs to know.
cash is best. more the merrier. not all girls make alot of money working here in LA only few are busy so any cash gift will be appreciated.
Even if they're slow they are seeing at least 3-4 a day.
Do the math. That's over 3 thou clear a week.
Not bad and they don't need our perfume.
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I have been guilty of this but have toned it down considerably. Some stuff are appreciated but some others get thrown in the trash...A good friend says don't give lingerie or items related to the business, that is like giving an Eskimo some snow...or a camel some sand...Keep it impersonal to show appreciation and not adoration....but a good tip is always best..
I may be old fashioned in this, but i think a gift should be thoughtful. If you're going that far, have her remember your gesture. If you happen to see her perfume on a date, keep a mental note and offer her a bottle as a gift. She will remember you at that special time she makes herself pretty.
I would do. If we are talking ATF and there has been some kind of genuine connection, absolutely, something thoughtful... that says she touched your life and you will always remember her. (omg, sappy ass here)
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I think of my ATF and the connection we have. It's beyond the typical ATF thing. So a touching gift might be out of place or not appropriate in this instance of OP - she may mean a lot more to you than the other way around - also, she may not want to bring her past into her new life ???
Cash is ok, but not creative and so easy, how about a Starbucks (other gift) card, and tell her you will put an extra xx or xxx on it here and there when you think of her, and when she notices the balance bump she will smile and think of you... you could really stretch this one out... the gift that keeps giving, reminding... ![]()
It is up to guys if they want to give gifts to their ATFs. However guys better remember that our hobby is ultimately a business transaction. Personally, I am paying more than enough to these girls so I don't bother with tips nor gifts. What other jobs these girls can make $150 tax free money per hour? $250 to most regular Joes is not a small amount of money. For someone who flips burgers for living or washes your car, they have to work like a dog for many hours.
Yes but these girls aren't working steady jobs. They work for a few weeks, then take off time to recover from their physicallyand mentally demanding proffesion (of choice granted). Then consider how many years they are able to work. Even the best of the kgirls aren't getting rich. Cost of living in la is pretty high, so even your kstars aren't getting rich. Also cost of living is high in Korea. Its not like the girl is going back to a third world country with enough money to live well.
Many of them are saving up to start a business or go to school. Many more are hoping to meet prince charming.
Give a gift that makes you feel good, to where you aren't second guessing yourself, or what she will do with it. 99% of the time your ATF will appreciate the gift. Just don't expect any special treatment by being a gift giver. You give because you want to, not for the sake of getting something back.
Just a quick reply, the kstars are in a league of their own. The ones in the top 5 I would say that they have so many repeat customers that they don't even have to really advertise anymore. One of the legends has enough to keep her going to the bank (I am guilty of funding her as well). I wouldn't be surprised if she leaves soon and I would be happy for her.
As a buddy said, if you look in their LV/Chanel/or Prada bags, they have enough hundred notes to go to the moon.
Many of them are saving up to start a business or go to school. Many more are hoping to meet prince charming.
Give a gift that makes you feel good, to where you aren't second guessing yourself, or what she will do with it. 99% of the time your ATF will appreciate the gift. Just don't expect any special treatment by being a gift giver. You give because you want to, not for the sake of getting something back.
The opinion of your peeping Tom notwithstanding , never mind the moon I will settle for a trip to fantasy land .
Giving them more cash will enable them to buy designer frocks to go with their brand-name hand bags.
As a buddy said, if you look in their LV/Chanel/or Prada bags, they have enough hundred notes to go to the moon.
Many of them are saving up to start a business or go to school. Many more are hoping to meet prince charming.
Give a gift that makes you feel good, to where you aren't second guessing yourself, or what she will do with it. 99% of the time your ATF will appreciate the gift. Just don't expect any special treatment by being a gift giver. You give because you want to, not for the sake of getting something back.
OK, but the guy who washes my car doesn't make my dick hard! ![]()
It's definitely just a token of appreciation, something I know she would like, and I know she doesn't have. If she takes it home with her, it will make me happy to know she's getting a little bit of enjoyment after the large amount of enjoyment she has given me.
Maybe I am a bit hard toward these girls but gifts and tips make many of these girls jaded. If enough guys give extra tips here and there then girls would expect tips from all of guys in the future. LA guys are already paying $50 premium compared to SF Bay Area and now even girls up there are offering services such as joint shower and BBBJ.
Yup, that's a valid point, and that's one reason I don't do it very often. Let's face it, there aren't that many ladies in this hobby who go above and beyond the call of duty. I've been with at least 30 over the past year, and only two have really stood out from the crowd.
By the way, I gave her the gift last night and her face lit up like a Christmas tree. I am so glad I did it.
I have never been one to tip a provider. If I return to see a provider 3-4 times, that's more money they are making from me than any tip I could have left. Even K-girls make good money. I'm positive they make more than I do, even though I can afford to treat myself. $250 is still a lot of money to me and over time it adds up.
Since I never tip, you would think that I wouldn't give a gift either. That's true, except for one time recently. Have you ever saw something that you thought or knew a friend of yours or SO would appreciate? So, you went and bought it and gave it to them for no reason, just because? That's the protocol I followed.
I have seen my ATF more than I have seen anyone else, ever, and really like her and we get along well. She has even given me a gift in the past for a certain holiday. I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. Based on our conversations I knew what hobby she enjoys and decided that I wanted to give her something related to the hobby she likes the next time I saw her. It was under $100, but a nice item. She certainly seemed to appreciate it. I don't know if the gift played a part, but I had the most memorable time with her that night. Absolutely, ranked #1 hot time if I had to rank my top 5.
Giving a gift is a nice gesture that says I like you and think of you or simply that the receiver of the gift is appreciated.
Very well put, Carl. And that's exactly what I am talking about. Normally, I would never even think of giving a gift. In fact, I have only done it once before and it was a long time ago, long before I discovered the K-girl scene. The vast majority of the time, the relationship is a simple business transaction. I give her X and she gives me Y. We're both happy. End of story. But sometimes it rises above that. And when it does, it's very nice. ![]()
Anyway, the main thing I wanted to be sure about is that I wasn't violating any agency rules or customs. I can't imagine what problems might arise, except for maybe some issue over fee sharing. If the lady is supposed to split everything 50/50, is it possible that includes the dollar value of personal gifts? I hope not. And I highly doubt it. But that's why I turned to the experts here.
So did you end up giving the gift yet? Money, right?
No, not money. And no, not yet. Probably sometime this week.