See my rant/post below. I am MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH IT ANY MORE.  No more timed to the second Asian sessions.  The next one gets blasted.  I don't care if I get banned by all the bookers, I will switch to Latinas after 20 years hobbling with Asians.  My last session was so damn mediocre it raises mediocrity to an art.  And I am NOT PUTTING UP WITH IT ANYMORE.  This is absurd.  I don't give a hoot what makes the bookers and providers happy anymore.  We pay our money and we get predictable, totally planned out to the second sessions.  NOT ANY MORE.  

I tip well...NOT ANY MORE.  If a gal gives me the pre-fab session, she gets ZILCH!  No more Shower to Bed to BBJ to 4.5 positions followed by blowing my wad and getting a massage you wouldn't pay $3.00 for.  

This is a call to protest.  One more and I am off the Asians Forever!

Visions of the things to be

I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now i know that it's too late, and....

The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
So this is all I have to say.

So, does this mean no review on the provider at issue?

LA is the Mecca for the the best and most beautiful Asian providers in particular K-girls and KAAMP's , indeed we are the envy of the rest of the country for what we have been blessed with.

The K-girls do rely on a playbook (Audrey arguably the only recent exception)  which paces the session and intended to provide the hobbyist with an experience that would make him come back for more. That is were the problem lies , prolific (chronic) hobbyist get jaded by the routine ,and perhaps by the frequency of their hobbying.

I deal with that by taking control of things and gently leading the way.  Once stripped from her play book the girl has no option but to react to me or be spontaneous.  I find this eliminates the monotony and routine. As the paying customer I exercise my right to gently and politely set the tone and the agenda of what takes place. , at the same time not abusing   my privileges or making the lady uncomfortable by making irresponsible or unreasonable demands.    

dude, it's your session, change the flow, explain to her you want to try something else. They want you to be happy, but you gotta speak!

dude, it's your session, change the flow, explain to her you want to try something else. They want you to be happy, but you gotta speak!

that is PussBelowPar Customer Service - lol

Seems to me - someone who frequents these gals as much as you and the bookers suggest new ladies - if they don't measure up - perhaps there is a peace offering???

not sure what all your ranting is going to do for you...

what do you expect the bookers to do?  or even the agencys?

theres no pretesting the model before its released to the public like some car.  or maybe i can volunteer for you if you pay for my sessions  i'll glady test drive before so you can be satisfied with your choice!!

just let me know and i'll PM you.

Ditto!!!
You can make it whatever you want it to be.

Joe Pesci as Tommy DiVito in 1990 classic, "Goodfellas"
I win!! Do I get to choose the one who is my prize?

Joe Pesci as Tommy DiVito in 1990 classic, "Goodfellas"
I win!! Do I get to choose the one who is my prize?

Hahahaha!!  You are frigigin hilarious, k dude, I'm holding you to that...not Mary, but the cash!!  No reneging!!

But seriously, I am just jaded, and tired of the same old same old.....  RT O&O

goodfellas

Asians....fine.....latinas.....cool......


but what about blondes? Not just blondes, mind you, but queenbee blondes? Hmmmm.......wait! I know one!

I realize I'm not your type, but i'm willing to bet regardless, I can still blow your f-ing mind, not just your ------   and aside from that, you seem pent up and a lil feisty, and quite frankly, you just need to have someone ---- the daylights out of you. I'm that woman.

I wager you this- give me one session with you, however you choose it, and i will take a benjamin off the rate just for accepting. I will then proceed to put it on ya like uv never damn had it in your life brother. Should i fulfill and/or succeed your expectations, then just come on here and let everyone know that indeed,  i did it....and how!

If not,  then the session is 50% off, and you can come on here and tell the entire world of TER
i sucked, but not in the way you'd hoped for , lol....

Accept?

Have to think about it...but the offer and the spirit of the offer is very kind, enthusiastic and meant so decently that I feel better just hearing it offered....  RT

I will alert UGLY MARY that you are coming.  Her fee is $10.50.  I will give it to you in cash.

I am not a K-girl provider, obviously, and I don't know any either.  However, I do get my nails done by Asian women.  Does that count even a little?  Just kidding.

What I would say is this, if you don't give the provider any direction, she will just revert to doing what she knows works.   According to her, that is enjoyable to you (she is basing that on past experience) and if you don't let her know you want something different, she just thinks she is doing what consistently makes you happy and keeps you coming back again and again.

After having spent some time in China, having best friends who were Korean for many years, and getting my nails done, I've come to understand that it is part of their work ethic and their culture to figure out the most efficient way of getting a job done.   There isn't anything wrong with that at all,  unless you are looking for something different.  

Don't be afraid to speak up for yourself.  This is, after all, an activity you engage in for yourself, its a gift you give to yourself.  So, stop buying yourself crappy gifts, mister!

That gave me a bit of a rise...

... since it was attached to my post - I thought for a moment - that it was meant for me.

RT should definitely take you up on the offer.

because that is where the fruit is!!!

I really don't have anything to say or add - I've just always wanted to say that about going out on a limb...

Well said alyssa,  although kgirls may be scripted, at least majority of them are, in my experieince if you wanted to engage in more or a non-scripted session you may have to pay the premium to independent providers whether they are asian or non-asian, they tend to be more of I say a la carte session versus fixed menu.  It does help once you get to know the provider more, more a less a regular then it becomes  more gfe in my opinion, and thus she becomes atf.

wow it took you 20 yrs to figure out that 250 kgal are not GFE. they are all mechanical I guess they got to be after they see 10 guys a day

Watch out what you wish for, it may bite you back.

you realize you have no idea what your talking about in regards to you GFE comment..

not sure if its good or bad that your totally clueless...

even in TER we have goddamn white Teaparty fanatic spewing worthless gibberish.

While giving direction may get the provider out of her "routine", it comes down to whether the provider knows what to do and likes what she does. If you have to guide a provider, she is not going to give a GFE. Also, if a provider is very "comfortable" with you (& maybe even likes you), the service is definitely better. You can tell when a provider is treating you as just another customer and when she is doing her best to please you. If I have to give a provider direction, then she doesn't know or doesn't want to do her best to please me. If she asks me what I want, then she is making the effort. All of my ATFs had a routine, and once in a while "surprised" me with something special. It could be something minor (like making out as soon as I walk in, or giving me a bbbj before getting to the shower). You can't force a GFE session. It happens organically.

I know the reason, but it might be part of the reason you feel the K-ladys are in a rut. It's a dance, and if you dance isn't going well, you, as well as your partner, are part of the problem. I've found through reading reviews carefully, some such ladies being quite open to changing it up, and even surprising me. It takes doing your homework, patience, and being assertive without being pushy. I've found independent K-ladys, who stick around awhile, and seem to like what they do, to be the most sure bet. However, there are those time I just don't want to think too much about it, just lay back and enjoy the routine.

* Wow, Queenbee stuck her neck out (and other body parts), you have to take her challenge. Stick up or shut up (lol).
* On this board several other providers always give good advice. With them you also get bonus psychotherapy.
* Sounds like you have k-girl fatigue. Why not branch out to other Asians, like those ones on the top 100 list; Or the list compiled by SensualNatalie a while ago.
* Better yet, why not try other races. Ya, start with a blonde, then redhead, then latina, then ebony. That will cure your k-fatigue.
* Even with the K-scene, there are some with solid ratings who could not have been mechanical to earn those consistent 9's. A few prominent names come to mind: Minnie, Su Young, Asia, Silo, Sera, Ashley, etc.
* It's unfair to broad-brush all Asians based on one or two crappy sessions.

I'm in pretty much the same boat as you, regarding having brief and sudden windows of opportunity. That's why, if I want the real feel of a GFE, I stick with a few favorites. If I'm in the mood to go with the flow of the usually K-girl routine, then I'll try someone more available.

I guess this hobby is not as easy as it's advertized to be!

I sympathize with the ladies, really.  It must be difficult at times, and hell on earth sometimes, and I am not minimizing that aspect of their trade.

But I was honestly expressing how rote and predictable the avg KGal session has become.  The top gall are great and fun, but it is almost impossible to get an appointment on short notice, and I usually have only brief, sudden windows of opportunity....

It has been a long while since I was blown away -- in fact, I don't think I've repeated with a provider in years....  

Maybe I am jaded and in a rut, maybe I should try another contingent.

In any event, my remarks were honest and heartfelt, I stand by them, and please let's not make this a Flame War about what an asshole I am, or what a douche bag somebody else is or isn't.  If we can't keep it civil and honest, then forget it.

But there was no "taking charge" with this chick.  It was a lot of "no's" and a lot of "don'ts" -- from the beginning.  Plus, she was starting with the fake moaning before the door was closed, and if I had gotten a nickel for every "honey," which I hate, she would have owed me money!

There was no way to recalibrate this LYFM (little yellow fuck machine), because she was, primarily, a machine....

Believe me, I have been with enough KGals (and other asians, including thai, malay, viet, chinese, cambodian, japanese, lao and even khmer/moung (sp?)) to know the ropes.  PLUS, started in the hobby when I was 15 -- my buddy had an older cousin -- he was like 25 and already married -- who took us to a whore house in manhattan and we got laid by latina pros!  I know the ropes, as I say, and I tried to redirect, etc.... But when, for example, I asked her to slow down on the bbbj, all she did was pause for about 5 seconds, and then resume the hoover suck machine.  Or when I tried to let her know I was not ready for entry, but wanted to enjoy fooling around more before the main course, she merely put the condom aside and picked it up again in about two minutes...

At that point, I just gave up.....

Yeah Baby... Mary Rocks! The same one with the big cauliflower butt warts? PLEASE PLEASE say yes! LoFnL!

Great scene by the way!