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Re: WHY?
Quietlurker 376 reads
posted
1 / 19
tarabentley 814 reads
posted
2 / 19

Gentlemen, I understand that there are new people all the time , but i speak to you on behalf of a lot of ladies i am sure , Please , please when you make an enquiry supply your references and cntact details, i am getting so many emails with (how much , are you free tomorrow) of late it really is time consuming and difficult to keep track.

love you all I am off on vaction shortly , see you soon

Harpman60 449 reads
posted
3 / 19
swish44 413 reads
posted
4 / 19

Why should we give you all are references and make are previous ladies answer your emails when we just want some information from you before we are 100 percent sure we want to see you . Then we will more then willing to give you are references . It seems stupid to give are references to you when were not even sure we want to see someone .

Posted By: tarabentley
Gentlemen, I understand that there are new people all the time , but i speak to you on behalf of a lot of ladies i am sure , Please , please when you make an enquiry supply your references and cntact details, i am getting so many emails with (how much , are you free tomorrow) of late it really is time consuming and difficult to keep track.

love you all I am off on vaction shortly , see you soon

Generalisimo 325 reads
posted
5 / 19

Why give you all that information upfront, I don’t like to have my references bothered unless I am going to schedule a session. Reference checks take time and possibly cell minutes, which all cost money. But you know that.  

Your real question is why do some Johns e-mail you without this information if they are going to schedule you? That is because some of us use initial e-mails to gauge your attitude and professionalism. Just because you go for 1K an hour does not necessarily mean you are professional. And I do not mean that personally. I as well look for compliance in responding to my questions. And for those that require such information and stated in your ads or forms (Those with sites), I will still send an e-mail but explain why I am not providing the required information upfront as I have an inquiry that will help determine if our schedules mesh.

I have come across a few providers over the years that charge more and some less than you, so price level is not a factor, from my experience. But in e-mail you are able to quickly discern the level of professionalism which is important to me as the reviews will give me an idea of level of service but not the aforementioned.

One provider I sent an inquiry as to her availability which is also important as many of you have lives and are not also open for business on weekends where I am or late hours since I work a lot. Now my e-mails are always in the vein of a professional letter or similar correspondence since I am looking to transact a business deal, so I am not rude or vulgar. Well instead of a reply giving this information or opening the discussion, she replied with simply it would be 1K for the hour; I knew that from her reviews and replied as such. She again replied that I was wasting her time and was I going to see her or not. That second reply ended any possibility of her getting my money.

Another thing I look for is a sense of who is replying. Several occasions I also quickly deduced or it becomes obvious that more than one person is replying, I prefer not to conduct business with this type of arrangement, there have been exceptions.  I can make the judgment generally in three or less e-mails.

So that is why I do not provide references upfront. And seems some agree with me, as in Swish44’s reply to your thread.

Nikki_Irish See my TER Reviews 418 reads
posted
6 / 19

for those  of us who prefer (but don't limit ourselves to) text messages. When all you write is 'Hello,' I am probably not going to respond, as I'm not sure who you are or what you want, in the interest of discretion.

Please tell me your name (make one up, but I prefer to acknowledge you out of politeness) and then ask any questions you may have.

Thank you so much! :)

alyssarossi See my TER Reviews 466 reads
posted
7 / 19

This goes to the gents...
If you can't follow the simple directions of sending a first email
with the basic safety information we request, that shows me that
you either do not know how to follow simple directions or that
you do not care to. To me that translates as a lack of respect (my
own values, I know) and I do not want to meet someone like that.  
In fact, when I get emails like that I just ignore them at this point.


Unfortunately this sounds a lot meaner than I would want it to,
but us gals would just like a modicum of consideration and if seems
that a good number of the guys out there do not feel it is worth the
time or effort.  

That first email goes a long way in telling us who you are.  You would
be amazed at what being nice, following directions, and acting like a
gentleman will get you.

Happy Hobbying!!!!!!

RTowers 35 Reviews 423 reads
posted
8 / 19

Would anybody email or text a regular business establishment with "hello" and expect them to reply?  Nope.  WHY on earth would one text a provider that way?  Sloppy, stupid and amateurish.....  RT

dantananot 12 Reviews 348 reads
posted
9 / 19
QueenBia See my TER Reviews 325 reads
posted
10 / 19

I wish honey, but in this real world you will always waste time with emails, or phone calls because some individual can not read your ads, or website we spend hours making.  Weird, but I have to send hundreds of emails to fellas who did not take the time to read my TER profile to see my donations, or services.  I do not understand why not read my reviews before contacting me?

If the real gents can manage to book a date with me, then I am sure if a guy is really serious he will send all the details I request the 1st time not send 50 emails to book a date.  Let's be honest if I spend X amount of time posting, ads & responding to emails, then I am not really making X amount of $ per hour when you average it out fellas...........

Just my 2 cents smile 4 me we all have our own opinions shits & giggles my friends! xoxo

I am on vacation too!

swish44 321 reads
posted
11 / 19

My sentiments exactly . If your a smart guy you can tell by the response of the email if its worth your time . The most annoying thing for me is when a girl replies back to me and calls me BABE rather then my name I gave her .Its so Phony . A phone call back to me seals the deal even its for a minute .It shows that there very interested and excited in meeting you .

Posted By: Generalisimo
Why give you all that information upfront, I don’t like to have my references bothered unless I am going to schedule a session. Reference checks take time and possibly cell minutes, which all cost money. But you know that.  

Your real question is why do some Johns e-mail you without this information if they are going to schedule you? That is because some of us use initial e-mails to gauge your attitude and professionalism. Just because you go for 1K an hour does not necessarily mean you are professional. And I do not mean that personally. I as well look for compliance in responding to my questions. And for those that require such information and stated in your ads or forms (Those with sites), I will still send an e-mail but explain why I am not providing the required information upfront as I have an inquiry that will help determine if our schedules mesh.

I have come across a few providers over the years that charge more and some less than you, so price level is not a factor, from my experience. But in e-mail you are able to quickly discern the level of professionalism which is important to me as the reviews will give me an idea of level of service but not the aforementioned.

One provider I sent an inquiry as to her availability which is also important as many of you have lives and are not also open for business on weekends where I am or late hours since I work a lot. Now my e-mails are always in the vein of a professional letter or similar correspondence since I am looking to transact a business deal, so I am not rude or vulgar. Well instead of a reply giving this information or opening the discussion, she replied with simply it would be 1K for the hour; I knew that from her reviews and replied as such. She again replied that I was wasting her time and was I going to see her or not. That second reply ended any possibility of her getting my money.

Another thing I look for is a sense of who is replying. Several occasions I also quickly deduced or it becomes obvious that more than one person is replying, I prefer not to conduct business with this type of arrangement, there have been exceptions.  I can make the judgment generally in three or less e-mails.

So that is why I do not provide references upfront. And seems some agree with me, as in Swish44’s reply to your thread.

Nikki_Irish See my TER Reviews 379 reads
posted
12 / 19

Posted By: RTowers
Would anybody email or text a regular business establishment with "hello" and expect them to reply?  Nope.  WHY on earth would one text a provider that way?  Sloppy, stupid and amateurish.....  RT
I don't know why, I'd love to know!

Text message from 2 days ago:

Him: Hi Nikki
Me: Are you from (noticed city with area code I'm familiar with)?
Him: Yes
Me: Okay
Him: Are you in L.A.?
Me: Yes
Him: Cool, have you ever did Vegas?
Me: Yes
Him: Do you know (provider name)?
Me: Yes
Him: Tell her I said hello
Me: I don't give messages
Him: Okay, I saw her a couple of times and now I'm too broke to see you

I swear that this was a real conversation (edited for brevity)!

I usually get people saying 'hello' and when I say 'hi' back I get nothing. That's why I refuse to answer anymore without more information!

tarabentley 336 reads
posted
13 / 19

Posted By: swish44
Why should we give you all are references and make are previous ladies answer your emails when we just want some information from you before we are 100 percent sure we want to see you . Then we will more then willing to give you are references . It seems stupid to give are references to you when were not even sure we want to see someone .
Posted By: tarabentley
Gentlemen, I understand that there are new people all the time , but i speak to you on behalf of a lot of ladies i am sure , Please , please when you make an enquiry supply your references and cntact details, i am getting so many emails with (how much , are you free tomorrow) of late it really is time consuming and difficult to keep track.

love you all I am off on vaction shortly , see you soon
While that is true to an extent, you assume that girls hate giving references and thats not true for Professionals, next I understand even in the first message you want basic info, but believe me the number of emails I get AFTER I give the info, then they want to arrange a time, etc, and by the 4th email after I keep requesting they decide to give references, maybe after two emails you could give the references. Today I just got a email, all it said, "I LIKE TO SEE YOU" nothing else, what am I suppose to do with that, well I give a reply and the dance begins but I know its going to be a long drawn out process. Is what it is I guess

tarabentley 412 reads
posted
14 / 19

Posted By: Generalisimo
Why give you all that information upfront, I don’t like to have my references bothered unless I am going to schedule a session. Reference checks take time and possibly cell minutes, which all cost money. But you know that.  

Your real question is why do some Johns e-mail you without this information if they are going to schedule you? That is because some of us use initial e-mails to gauge your attitude and professionalism. Just because you go for 1K an hour does not necessarily mean you are professional. And I do not mean that personally. I as well look for compliance in responding to my questions. And for those that require such information and stated in your ads or forms (Those with sites), I will still send an e-mail but explain why I am not providing the required information upfront as I have an inquiry that will help determine if our schedules mesh.

I have come across a few providers over the years that charge more and some less than you, so price level is not a factor, from my experience. But in e-mail you are able to quickly discern the level of professionalism which is important to me as the reviews will give me an idea of level of service but not the aforementioned.

One provider I sent an inquiry as to her availability which is also important as many of you have lives and are not also open for business on weekends where I am or late hours since I work a lot. Now my e-mails are always in the vein of a professional letter or similar correspondence since I am looking to transact a business deal, so I am not rude or vulgar. Well instead of a reply giving this information or opening the discussion, she replied with simply it would be 1K for the hour; I knew that from her reviews and replied as such. She again replied that I was wasting her time and was I going to see her or not. That second reply ended any possibility of her getting my money.

Another thing I look for is a sense of who is replying. Several occasions I also quickly deduced or it becomes obvious that more than one person is replying, I prefer not to conduct business with this type of arrangement, there have been exceptions.  I can make the judgment generally in three or less e-mails.

So that is why I do not provide references upfront. And seems some agree with me, as in Swish44’s reply to your thread.
Point taken, but really I think the reviews generally help in all the points you mention.

RTowers 35 Reviews 368 reads
posted
15 / 19

...and when the dealer says, "why don't you come in for a test drive," you say, "oh, I can't afford it...."  What a jerk off.  RT

Southern Cal Guy 298 reads
posted
16 / 19

When someone calls me babe, sweety, honey, etc., when she has never called me by my real name, I assume that she's too lazy or unprofessional to bother trying to make any kind of real connection.  It's the mark of a low-end provider, and usually the end of the conversation for me.

WhatTheFuuk 357 reads
posted
17 / 19

Well, Tara, it would also be nice if the ladies actually responded to reference checks when they are contacted, but they often do not. For fear of ceding business to another lady? I don't know. But that's just as annoying as getting a bunch of stupid questions from guys via email. It seems many ladies only think reference checks are important when they are doing the checking, but not when they are being asked to provide one.

We both have our headaches to deal with in this hobby.

anomalycutie See my TER Reviews 458 reads
posted
18 / 19

It seems to me from reading the replies thus far that both sides have very good points concerning both ladies and gentleman using proper hobby etiquette and the responses and/or inquiries they receive during correspondence of any sort with individuals who either choose not to or are ignorant of proper hobby etiquette.

When a gentleman with proper etiquette contacts a lady with the same etiquette or vice versa, they usually don't have any trouble communicating their needs.

It simply an issue of the lazier types of both genders.

rdhiii 44 Reviews 359 reads
posted
19 / 19

as a guy, I understand wanting to see if scheduling or location will work out before providing references but I would state in my first e-mail that if location and hours mesh I will send references. I don't see the point of contacting a lady unless you want to make an appointment. Read her reviews and if it isn't enough to make you want to see her, move on.  

Several providers have told me 80% of the 1st contact they get are of the type "I saw your ad. You're hot! Can I see you tonight?" despite their ad saying please provide references. Many times without even a name attached to the request. Some told me unless things are slow they don't respond to those. A few have thanked me for providing the requested info upfront. Maybe that is why I get quicker responses because I always give the information requested to show I am serious about meeting.

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