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Re: so much anger.....teeth_smile
GhostWriteroftheDamned 823 reads
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Why are you ranting at me? I'm on YOUR side for much of what you say. And I totally agree that a hobbyist should walk away if the gal he expected is a dismal dissapointment when she opens the door.  

Which part of  “daft, insensitive, narcissistic, self absorbed, jaded, cruel, malevolent, misogynist, pathologically penurious, socially retarded, sanctimonious penis wrinkles with a messiah complex” as a description of some hobbyist/reviewers made you think I was in opposition too you?
(Amazing how I can say all that without resorting to LARGE CASE... eh'?)  

  Please forgive me for mentioning that the supply side is also not without it's own faults.  

  :

Reviews are meant to legitimise a providers service.

It's meant to say yes I have a vagina and I deliver what I promised on my ad.

Nowadays I see horrible men talking about a providers appearance and all the things wrong with her
It actually makes them look worst then the provider.

What will it take to make certain gentleman realise you are burning bridges with other providers  
By being mean.

Yes we do talk and yes we know who to avoid.

I am working on a website for escorts to review clients

It's another form of verification  

A chance for providers  to know what they are dealing with.

 
It is time we had a say about what really happens.
And providers can control what type of client they see.

I don't know about any other providers
But I am sick to death of seeing nasty reviews  
And bad experiences...LETS GET SELECTIVE

Fellas
If she is not your type do not proceed with the booking!!!
Geez Isit that hard??!!

Of course there are some lovely hobbyists genuine people i have had some great times with

I will let you all know when it's finished

I feel like this will work a lot better  
Because emailing a provider asking her to verify someone she probably can't remember  
You have to trust her word for it.

The client review system  

Will let you score him and his manners

If he is a great guy he will be acknowledged  
And when asked for references the client can submit his
Reviews to the provider.

The reviews will consist of manners...hygiene and attitude
Did he pay the correct fee?
Was he on time?

How much notice did he give etc etc

This will save a lot of time and could make things faster when verifying  
So there does not have to be a long wait when booking an appointment.

The review system works for the client
Why can't it work for the provider?

Why must the provider only speak up when she has been cheated or had a bad time.

This could also bring out the positivity of this industry  
If he's a great guy speak up!  
;

a provider works hard to build her credibility and for her reviews to book work

i feel like if a client earned his right to be with an escort he would respect it  

and not jeopardise his place in the hobby.

right now they are getting away with it because there is no consequence.

well national blacklist but there are ways around that.

 
my site will be as strict as TER....but for the provider  

both partys must earn the privilege of being in this community.

it is the only way to gain mutual respect

no hate please.... i am not interested in arguments

this is what im doing wether people approve or not..

ciao ;-)

kcco944 reads

for $xxxxx per hour, I should be able to write what I experienced.  
I am paying you. I am the CLIENT. If your services did not meet my expectations, I have the right to say so.
If you fail to deliver on the experience, and your business suffers, why is that on me?  
If I go out to dinner, or the theatre, or a movie, I agree to pay for what I hope will be a positive experience. If I don't feel it was a positive experience, should I not speak up

anydos799 reads

But I think you may be trying to re-invent the wheel with this and a rather large and troublesome wheel it is.  There are already a number of resources for providers to use for this purpose including the Provider Only boards here and several Blacklist and provider safety sites in existence.  It is also a ton of work and expensive to set up,  run and maintain a bulletin board service like TER.   Just keeping the hackers and trolls (yes there are provider trolls out there) at bay is a full time job.  I won't go into the technical and equipment cost, as I'm sure you will find that out for yourself.

I know your intentions are good, but you know what they say about good intentions and the road to hell.  But sincerely, best of luck with this.

Hi Sweetie.  I detect some frustration and some heart felt concern, in your post.  
Your premise is sound.  But, in the real world, hobbyist can be grouped into several categories.  Two major categories are: gentlemen and jerks. A gentleman may describe a lady as being “slightly heavier than her pictures suggest.”
Where as the jerk may write “she is a fat slob, at least 30 heavier than the 120 she claims to be.”  
We know that the hobbyist can use the review process, as a tool to manipulate fees performance etc. or to just be mean and cruel.  By the same token the provider can “get even” and become vindictive by use of the Black List, by posting on the local Boards, and by giving scathing referrals.  
Back to your original post:  Let’s wait and see what the general consensus is, but please take note:  Reviews are a double edged sword. If your plan goes into effect I can envision plenty of tit for tat (if not down right wars).
No review or referral system is perfect.  The ladies have the option of Whitelisting a guy she feels he is safe and decent.  She also can black list him, if he is a real danger or rip-off crook  And don’t worry about the single negative review, if you have a sea of  good ones, an astute fella will ignore it.
Another consideration:  You are a service provider (albeit special).  Can you think of any other service oriented business, or professional that routinely reviews their customers?

Best of luck and Good Fortun

FIDCUOF925 reads

You people have a lot to learn......WOW

I AM FINALLY MAKING IT FAIR.

 
i am sure a lot of girls would agree with me that the majority of dangerous clients are verified

 
my site will be a permanent blacklist  

AND  

a review site for gentleman who are genuine.

however if the client decides to go bad

the provider can change his review to a blacklist.

its safe its secure it will be fair!

you only get one chance to be a member and if you ruin it its for life.

 
its a brilliant idea.

 
there is no need to get mad about it....the ladies will be tightening screening  
since clearly references do not work anymore.

to be honest if you think im an A- hole for this  i honestly dont care.
since i will not be an escort for very long.

but something is telling me to do this...gut feeling.
 
its not fair that the client can treat an escort as a risk to see
when truth be told  

so are you

anydos594 reads

I never told you it was a bad idea.  It would be great for a site like what you describe.  I just know that it's been tried before, and running a daily bulletin board website is a huge headache and completely overwhelming to take on alone.  Again I wish you luck with it.  I was just trying to let you know what you have in store as a practical matter

FIDCUOF870 reads

Email or phone the reference and ask them.  She will tell you everything you want to know about us.   Example, Amber Adel emailed and called a provider I saw and when I saw her the 1st things she said was....YOu are HOT.  They must have had a conversation about me.  Conversely, I do the same thing before I see a provider.  I PM someone that has seen her and ask a lot of questions about looks, age, weight, height, pussy, smell...everything.  I'm not going to waste my time or money on some women that uses FAKE pictures or misrepresents herself on the internet.  Remember....Everything you read on the internet is NOT always true.  If you need more info please feel free to PM me and we can talk off-line.

anydos730 reads

You're a young girl and have so much to live for!  I'm sure you already know well what this moron is suggesting as advice.  Does he seriously think you don't how to screen?  How insulting.  You just want to stay well clear of this guy.  From reading his multitudinous and bizarre posts, he seems really unstable and somewhat dangerous.  He may own a house with a basement.  I think he has a panel van with heavy duty trash bags, baling wire and duct tape in the back!  Run Laura Run!!! (Apologies to Tom Hanks for the quotes)

ROFLMAO!

but as described by 'jinx' you're opening a can of costly, hard too manage worms.  

  As much as the hobbyist community houses many daft, insensitive, narcissistic, self absorbed, jaded, cruel, malevolent, misogynist, pathologically penurious, socially retarded, sanctimonious penis wrinkles with a messiah complex I have also been privy to providers who manipulate their TER Profile too reflect many services they don't or wouldn't offer in ten years and a month of Sundays. And then they report the justifiably dissatisfied TER Reviewer to the "National Black List". Or they'll simply advertise photos that are 15 years old and 25+ pounds slimmer.  

  This Great Depression of 2008 and the subsequent incompetence of our elected leaders to ameliorate has hit and effected everyone. Many gentlemen who once hobbied once or twice a month for budget reasons have been taken out of the game all-together, and many of the survivors are scrutinizing more carefully or taking unfair and cruel advantage of both the perennials as well as their competition from legions of clueless neophytes entering the worlds oldest profession.

why would you be so threatened???

 
i did not mention anything about not being able to say what happened.

i am talking about the guys who write false reviews and are dangerous.

 
sorry but like i said before  

its going to happen.

 
and dont worry about my finances.....i will spend it how i please.

i may not be able to contain all the worms

but the majority of them will be contained!

 
thats all thats important.

 
people always talk about the provider possibly not being safe  

well sorry but what about the clients.

like i said someones about to change this all up the way it should be

 
AND FYI IF YOUR MEETING SOMEONE WHO IS CHARGING $$$$$$$$ FOR AN HOUR

AND YOU DO NOT LIKE THEM

NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO CONTINUE A SESSION AND GO HOME AND DESTROY THERE  

FEELINGS!

she may be overweight but that shows what kind of person you are...
you have to destroy somebody who is trying to make a lifvings self esteem

 
i never understood that....no one forces you to continue the session

 i am not slating the gentleman of this hobby

i absolutely love what i do  
and the people i meet.
some of the men i have met doing this have been so sweet and have become long term friends.

however the ladies need to sharpen the verifying  
since a lot of guys who are dangerous are actually verified

amen sister.  i love what you have to say

am totally against talking about someones physical appearance

it hurts my soul when guys do it

if a guy is wrong for doing it a provider is no better!

and will be banned from my site if she does....NO APPEARANCE OR ONLINE BULLYING ACCEPTED!

 
people think there details will be exploited well NO

it will be a safe secure site like TER

but a chance for the ladies to speak out.

A REVIEW SHOULD BE KEPT SHORT AND IF THE GIRL IS NOT YOUR TOP RECOMMENDATION  
THAT IS FINE BUT THERE WILL BE NO ENTERTAINMENT ON HER EXPENSE!

also if a guy is a great client it makes it easy and fast for him to see a girl

 
i am not trying to be mean to the good hobbyists

i love what i do

 
BUT IT HONESTLY HURTS MY SOUL SOME OF THE THINGS I READ AND HEAR  
ESPECIALLY ABOUT MY FRIENDS!

this site will always be free for the provider.

i am not doing this for mone

I agree with you when you say it's your money and you will spend it as you please. I don't agree with no physical descriptions. Obviously from what I hear, you look exactly like your pictures. But many providers are posting 10-15 yr old pics, pics that are photoshopped or pics hiding their large bellies.  Now, while it is wrong to bully someone, it is also wrong to put out false advertisement. While the majority oft he ladies are here to make money, the majority of men are here to fulfill fantasies. I don't think it's fair to limit the descriptors, because it just promotes false advertising

Why are you ranting at me? I'm on YOUR side for much of what you say. And I totally agree that a hobbyist should walk away if the gal he expected is a dismal dissapointment when she opens the door.  

Which part of  “daft, insensitive, narcissistic, self absorbed, jaded, cruel, malevolent, misogynist, pathologically penurious, socially retarded, sanctimonious penis wrinkles with a messiah complex” as a description of some hobbyist/reviewers made you think I was in opposition too you?
(Amazing how I can say all that without resorting to LARGE CASE... eh'?)  

  Please forgive me for mentioning that the supply side is also not without it's own faults.  

  :

no my post was not aimed specifically at anybody

its just answering everybody in general

Posted By: laura-elite
no my post was not aimed specifically at anybody  
   
 its just answering everybody in general.  
   
   
 
Then you should have clicked "reply" in answer to your own original OP. By clicking on mine it appeared as a direct and heated retort to my response of your OP.

Hi There Guys

Its important to have reviews it gives everyone a common ground and sense who you are.

From Aussie Alley

xo

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I believe Ladies can review gents on Date-Check.  I haven't seen them but had had ladies agree to see me cause I have good reviews

I have nothing to hide though. I have seen 2 providers that were hurt by some Jerk. Safety first IMHO. I have always felt that this is a one way street.

After studying your exceptional review history as well as your profile I'm puzzled as to why you are so concerned with dangerous "fake" reviews. You enjoy a very high score average with only a couple of lonely 8's as respective clinkers. And for having so many 10's in the "Performance" category several common "service" expectations for such a score are listed as "NO".  

  Could it be your requisite donation is being found to be a bit pricey by some hobbyists for the services offered, and you then subsequently suffer the back-lash of a review score that you must petition TER to remove saying "I never saw him" and 'it is a contrived/fake review for purposes of VIP credit" ?  

 'Ten-teneritus' can strike the most beautiful of providers, and it manifests in a multitude of duplicitous machinations

My reply would be..

If this is going to be strictly for the ladies, then keep it that way from day 1.

Meaning, instead of making a public announcement or getting feedback from the people who wouldn't want it (the me ).. Try to get feedback on the ladies side to see the pros/cons. :

Posted By: alyssainnewyork
My reply would be..  
   
 If this is going to be strictly for the ladies, then keep it that way from day 1.  
   
 Meaning, instead of making a public announcement or getting feedback from the people who wouldn't want it (the me ).. Try to get feedback on the ladies side to see the pros/cons. :)  
 
“It is time we had a say about what really happens.  
And providers can control what type of client they see.”
                                                  (laura-elite)
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=299266&boardID=1&page=1#299266

 
  Are you and Laura saying that you wish a private or clandestine board where only reviewers who hand out nines and tens are valued and subsequently entertained?
Such a forum would service only a provider's profit concerns; but represent a blasphemy in respect to veracity, credibility, and fair play.

Please try too be less cryptic in your responses Alyssa. I wish to speak from understood fact, and not confusion or mistaken conjecture.

to discuss this on the Providers Only board and I fully agree with that as I WOULD NOT advertise this service in a public forum that the whole world can see.

I am not dissing Laura's idea as she can do whatever she wants and has made that clear.
However, what I did notice by doing my homework is that she has a concern and has only been with us for almost 2yrs.  Being that I have been around for 4x that, as many others that have responded, I have watched this industry change so much to what it is today.  Many valid points on both sides of the fence, however, I am a firm believer in discretion and by posting this openly, now eyes will be on this new venture and of course, infiltration will begin.  Even this board has had its moments and NOTHING in Life is 100%.

I may be old school, but doing the old-fashion reference request will ALWAYS be the safest for me.  Albeit the fact that ANYTHING online can be misrepresented, whether via private boards and/or reviews, I feel much safer when I contact a lady directly - guess it is about the personal touch for me.  I have only accepted a good reference via the internet (ex: whitelist, rating systems, etc) WITHOUT personal contact IF I know the lady.

I feel that the wheel is being re-invented and time could be sent in other areas that solely benefit yourself.

Sunshine Smiles ~
Ms Lacie O
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Thanks Lacey!

Ghostwriter.. That's the first time that I have been ever referred to as cryptic.

I'm confused why you read in to what I wrote. I wrote it in laymens terms.

If someone has an idea that is meant to be for ladies only, then why include men. And vice versa.

Do the men post on public boards when they want to make changes to their private boards?

I am not saying that I agree not disagree as I do not believe this is a public matter.

I will say, I have been around on and off since 2006 and I wouldn't be a part of a ladies board that critiques men. I don't even like reviews of the ladies! I like reviews when they state if we arrived on time, delivered our services and our photos are a representative of us. I cannot stand the 1-10 scale. I think it's worthless. I never understood why someone said, "she's not a supermodel" when a lady doesn't advertise as one.. Or when they say, "she isn't thin" when they advertise as a small bbw. Hello.. Who rates a sour patch kid saying, "well.. It wasnt salty... "
However, I so like sites where we can give white lists. When we give a whitelist then a lady can reach out and ask for a reference and, like Lacey, that is my go to for screening

The form can be

 
 A) body type....... athletic    ......     chubby...... beer belly

 

 b) Balls grooming  

trim
shaved
Long    .......    and  that I could do a pony tail

C)... refuse   to  shower..............

yes  
no
 no... but only wash ONIY  his cock ...and mess up  my sink.....

D )daty  
yes
yes ..great  and  my got  instructions  
bad ...... and  bite my kitty as barbecue .....ouch

 
Sorry people    do not  be harsh  on me,,,,, trying to keep up  sense humor on this boards
THINGS Were  So funny IN TER CoupIe years  AGO

hugs  
cc

Ahhh  Carla!!
Some levity at last!  ROTFLMAO!
THANK YOU!
You are absolutey adorable.  Take Care My Dear Sweet Friend

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Ya just gotta get a deeper sink for the ol' Vet.  That water at the drain is COLD!!

WAit MINUTE now i am piss ..lol
U2 just confess the crime LOL LOL
kisses !!

Like a bathtub:  An optimist cleans it after he uses it.    
A pessimist cleans it before he uses it.  
A gentleman cleans it before and after he uses it.
AND:  A Jerk, doesn't wash it at all...

BellOOO..
Ops

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