So, I recently saw a independent LA asian provider who's donation is very steep $$$$.
I asked her if she would give me a whitelist?
She said only if you give me a score of perfect 10's across the board on her review of her.
I said okay and left. I never did write a review because she is a nice provider and is total GFE and her
service is good. But, not that exceptional to where I have to say OMG she will rock your world!

I think that is unfair to my fellow hobbist's that I have to give her a 10. We all read each other's reviews
of the girls and look at the scores. Some of us see girls based on there high scores and some don't?
Some of us reviews girls based on are own opinion on what we were provided.
Good example is that LASER.

Don't get me wrong she is pretty, sexy hot body,and provides great gfe. But, I have seen some of the recent
kgirls whose donation is 3 times less than her's. And, has the looks,body and gfe like her but for not as much as here.
Good example for me is Sexy Lohan. She is a close to a 10 but not greece. Now, this is my own opinion!

What do you ladies & gents think? I believe she is trying to acheive all these perfect 10's to get to #1.

But a "gaming" of the system none the less.

We all know why they do it, or do we?
Is it for greater riches alone, or is it also for vanity?  

Did she white list you? There IS the ethics of a verbal contractual agreement to consider, as well as ethics on a whole.

10 from you  for performance , infact Orchid got 10's across the board. As it happens I think both ladies are as sexy, exciting , interesting , intelligent and superior to any so called independent. You have also given 10s for appearance to a couple of other girls. I think that needed to be put out.

I do not think your experience is unique. I have never asked to be "Whitelisted" but I have been badgered nonK-doll providers for favorable high score reviews. 

It seems the independents by their quid pro quo opportunist attitude and
unprofessionalism have corrupted the review and the rating system, it seems like payola all over again. In the absence of oversight to uphold the review and rating system the who system will be deemed redundant because it is impossible to distinguish genuine , fake and inflated reviews.

We have had recent cases of outraged out of control independents use this board and the Black list system to maliciously retaliate against reviewers who wrote reviews not to their liking irrespective of how accurate those reviews were.

In the absence of a desire by TER to require reviewers to adhere to and honour the review process the system will increasingly be manipulated , controlled and corrupted by the out of control independent providers and K-girl agencies who block honest reviewers. 

As I have mentioned before I rely on pm with respected reviewers and trusted bookers to help me make mostly wise choices

Thanks for the post.

I totally agree the providers now are asking for 10/10 scores because they know that being at the top of the list, search engines, etc.. on tER brings them the majority of their business.  Sad, but very true & I do not agree with it since I started years ago I just received my 1st 10/10 ever last month. WTF

You guys need to be more honorable to your fellow hobbists it is not fair to be unethical in this industry no integrity.  I see the same providers post fake photos, and run specials that are never offered on this site to the TER gentlemen.  Let's try to be honest, fair & accurate, so the next guy does not get disappointed, or waste his valuable time and money.


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One possible solution to the problem of over inflated ratings (In retrospect, I plead guilty on occasion) could be to let TER average the scores without showing each reviews individual rating. That way, a member could be more honest with the score knowing he won`t suffer any repercussions from a less that perfect number. The provider wouldn`t know what score he gave but it would serve to raise or lower her average to some degree.

Lets say that a member feels pressured to give an actual 7 a rating of 9. If his individual score isn`t going to be shown he can safely give the 7 and we`d all have a much more reliable expectation when we book a visit.

I know the rules can be confusing, but if you read them carefully, as long as you provide 3 of the 4 items listed, you are eligible to receive a 10.  

And scores should never be discussed!

I agree! Wholeheartedly. Girls like SL, Orch, Lita, Amb, Boa, Hosi and Hara, are all top tier girls that IMO should be getting 10's across the board just for service alone!

Irrespective if greek comes into play, these girls are consistent in their performance and are worth every dollar spent and more.

The only reason I have not given some of these girls 10's are that once in a lifetime is just that otherwise I wouldn't end up repeating (and boy do I mean repeat) most of the time.

IMO, a majority of the girls are 8 or 9' or whatever scale you want to use but ALL are headturners be they a 6. Just my 2 cents.


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Ter rating sysyem is flawed. In order for a girl to qualify for a 10 on service is she has to be bi or do anal. Thats ridiculous.

I also think its ridiculous for a girl to ask for 10's, but I was asked by a girl who I was frequently seeing, and I did feel comfortable giving that score....

What are the options? And why should they be required ? And why are girls not meeting these requirements getting or demanding  10's. Which is meant to be a once in a lifetime experience. I would like to think that my once in the life time experiences , no matter how great my last one , is the next one , then the ine after it.

Using a combined average score would make these numbers a community concensus. The details section would still describe our personal experiences. Established providers would not need to fret about an occasional 7 as it would not move the average. Reviewers could feel more comfortable giving objective ratings. Top rankings would mean something.  Everyone benefits.

If the definition of the present 10 was assigned # 4
And the definition for 2 was assigned # 7
And the definition for 9 was assigned #1
And so on and so on.

Automated aggregate scoring would be made useless.
The writer as well as reader of the individual review would understand the values; but adding up all the numerical scores and dividing by the number of scores available isn’t going to give a ‘value attached’ quotient.

 The same could be done with the “Appearance” scores. Further crippling 'Top Score' numbers crunchers, and those whose pride, price, and prominence rests in gaming them.

I like this idea.  Let the review stand for itself.

I recently saw an 8/8 review and the guy said the girl smelled bad. Seriously?  I dont think that dezerves an 8/8.

The imortant info is in the review.

whitelisting should NOT be bought y 10 reviews that is dispicable

Good Review = Whitelisting.
ie. Give me a good review and I will whitelist you.

Whitelist me and I will give you a good review.

It is useless tool, and definitely  no provider should EVER rely on, just like we guys should never rely on all these inflated ratings.

I do not write reviews any more just because of all the agrevation that goes along with it. Give a lady a 7 and you will be blacklisted, threatened and so on. They all want 9's and 10's it is ridiculous.

You are missing what the OP stated , it is the provider wanted  wanted to sell a WL for 10 , the client  did want to buy nor did he write a review , instead he posted here to share his experience.

I am sure though the reverse also happens. I know that many new K-doll are pressured/ blackmailed by pervert  predators who threaten to write bad reviews if their unreasonable demands are satisfied.  

The things most of the girls who create most of ten noise and aggravation are 4s or 5s at best but in their inflated egos in fantasy land  they believe they are 10". These girls as well the guys who blackmail and bully visiting  girls ,who just arrived to a  strange land, to submit to their warped desires who truly deserve to be blacklisted.


           

The whole point of whitelisting is to show that a client is trustworthy so other providers can feel comfortable if this gentleman comes calling.  A provider is saying, "I can vouch for this client, he is safe and reliable" if she whitelists someone.  

You should be earning a whitelist from a provider that you have seen on several occasions, and you have built a TRUST.   It should not be an exchange system -- "oh, I'll whitelist you, if you write me a great review.".  That's BS.

So don't kill the messenger.  They are the TER review guidelines for reviews and performance ratings:

An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering these service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

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Maybe a moving average so a review 10 years ago doesn't have a lot of weight today?

in exchange for your whitelisting.

I whitelist after a few dates when I feel he is safe. One or two dates isn't enough to say YES I TRUST YOU unfortantely.

What you should do is forget about her, keep seeing other girls who are more willing to share that with you.

On the other hand, some girls will whitelist anyone, which is VERY UNSAFE FOR THE REST OF US. A guy may have been alright the first time, but after a couple times may be a complete nutcase, but her half assed whitelisting 'cause the next girl to get beat up, NCNS, jypped etc...

So if you have a regular girl, she obviously will give you the WL you want, if a girl wont, MOVE ON

i think it is complete bullshit for a girl to basically extort a guy for a whitelist.  if she deserved 10's she would not have to ask for them.

This is a very competitive business and providers know that TER reviews have a strong influence on hobbyist decisions. Independent asian providers who want to charge 2x, 3x, or 4x the typical k-provider rates have to justify their rates, expecially since the "average" k-provider seems to be getting average ratings of 8+/8+. With these high ratings, why would hobbyists looking for an asian provider pay 2x-4x more to get a 8-9 looks/performance? To be competitive, an asian provider would need to be a 10/10 to justify the premium (or be a known porn star/model that fulfills a fantasy).
Who cares about a whitelist? If you can book a high priced provider w/o a whitelist reference, then you don't need it.