The korean girls listed on CV and that have rave reviews here seem too good to be true! They are gorgeous, with reasonable rates and GFE! Now one hesitation I have is are these girls "brought" here to do this? I would hate to think I was indulging in this hobby with anyone that is not participating 100% of her free will! I am all for helping a lady through school, pay the rent, etc but not making some pimp rich!
If you're worried about "human trafficking", then don't need to. Most of them do work with agency, but they are working because they want to, not forced to.
We all want to assume that they are here on their own volition and they were excited about the prospects of coming to America and sucking on some big U.S. dicks.
In reality, each individual case is different.
the agent who gets them in korea and arranges travel makes money; the broker that houses them makes money, and the girl gets a cut. after their visa expires they either leave of blend in to the local community until they are deported.
Are you from Boston? I lived there for 5 yrs. Girls are way hotter in civie and provider world out here than back east except for new york. As far as Asian girls, especially Korean girls here they are awesome! And I still can't believe how young, hot, and relatively "affordable" they are priced. They are not "trafficked". They are working for an agency voluntarily and most are on a visa for 3-6 months. Its a way for a young girl to visit U.S. and make some cash.
Remember, in many asian countries, many people are poor and if you are a good looking girl, its the only way for them to make decent/good money. Even a good education doesn't guarantee you much over there.
So, go out and hobby with as many Korean girls as you want and don't feel guilty!!!!!!
so how can we say for sure what circumstances brought them here? Honestly, I'd rather not know, because if you followed the trail backward you'd probably run into some very dark shit.
Having talked with a number of them and seeing their lifestyle, I am quite sure they are not here against their will, and are free to leave if they please. Some of them have become independent or even "manage" other girls. It sounds like you don't care if they are trafficked anyway.
Rather than a White Knight, maybe just one of those big dicks he hopes they are eager to suck.
This is a dirty, seedy, illegal business filled with shady characters both here and S. Korea.
We all want to sanitize it, so we don't ever have to compromise our high moral standards. It's a joke.
If there's money to be made - and there is a lot of it in prostitution - then it's going to attract a large criminal element. Some of you seem to be in denial of this. Part of your 250 dollars may end up financing a drug ring out of Seoul. How would you know? The girls aren't going to tell you that.
Follow the money... then you'll get all the answers you could possibly want. Until you do that you will never really know.
You quack me up too. You're off point. The basic question was if all these Korean ladies are being forced to do this. A few guys gave the general answer no. Don't know how you morph that into their being in denial about kinds of shit.
You say we will never know, but you seem to know that all of us want to sanitize and that we all think we have high moral standard. Maybe you should change that handle to RightKnight.
Let's see, you state that "we" don't know how girls are "recruited", and give us profound statements like "each individual case is different". But, you'd "rather not know." Then suddenly you know it all, and give us more insight: "This is a dirty, seedy, illegal business filled with shady characters both here and S. Korea." And you lecture us that we are in denial and want to "sanitize"(?) this. So, you want us to "follow the money", but you already "know" that it leads to a "criminal element" (I thought you didn't want to know?).
What have we learned? It's in the subject.
but don't take what I write so seriously. This board is part of my daily entertainment. Sometimes my opinions are shit. I know that.
It's not like I have a team of researchers behind me feeding me
the most salient points so that everything I write is fact based and correct.
It's not easy being a windbag.
I was just playing around with that dick reference. Couldn't resist a little play on words with the way you opened the door. But I did think the way you put it was dissing the ladies and I happen to like them and got a white streak of my own.
Brad your post sounds like you are talking about Thailand.
Korea is not a poor country. However, there is a culture of room salons and prostitution. A lot of korean girls work there because they don't have a good education or job prospects. Koreans also spend a lot of money and some of the girls go into debt.
The girls that come to the US, some are here working off debt. Others do this for a living and once your in it's hard to leave. Imagine your 25-30, no education, been providing for 5-10 years. Nobody wants to marry you or give you a job.
So they just do this and keep going. I don't know how it ends.
Also, some providers families are in debt and they do this work to help their families.
I've gotten to know a lot of providers and dated one. If you have a heart, and get to know the girls, you will feel bad for them. The world is not fair though, that's how it is.
I've really limited my hobbying because I've gotten to know the girls, culture, and system too well. If you can know it all and can still enjoy the hobby, more power to you.
well talking with some of the owners and girls ive become friends with this is the deal:
most girls are veterans who work in room salons in seoul hooking. the room salon owners there work with owners in US advertising to the girls if they want to come to US. so if girl wants to come voluntarily then they need to purchase their own airfare, own CV pictorial, and own clothes. the agencys here will house them and then take about half of the donation. the daily take is upto the girls to give to the owners not the other way around. most bookers are not owners but independent agents who get paid by the owners to handle the appointment. so thats why if you notice the apartments for some of the girls that are booked by the same booker are so different. sign of different owners being represented. also, most of the owners in LA are women. pretty much all are former working girls who retired. im sure you can guess who they are.
the successful girls eventually get smart and go illegal and become independent and leave the agency and setup shop themselves and become owners. the non successful ones quit and go back to korea or just get sick of the US and go back once their visa expires. Its not like the dark ages here in LA. most girls go and come and switch agencies anytime they want.
anyway, hope this ease your concerns about some dark seedy underbelly thing happening to the girls here. but of course i can't vouch for this in other cities but just LA.
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Remember, the question was on the k-girls on CV. Most of these girls are working on their own volition.
However, a lot of KMPs in smaller cities, there are some girls who are working agaisnt their will. They might have been kidnapped or just held hostage because of the dept they piled up.
All these girls in my opinion are being pimped to pay off whomever controls there visa's. I think the majority are really beautiful legit girls...however I'm not willing to pay 250 for an AMP type session which is all it is!!!!