Being quite a fan of the k-girl scene, when does my appreciation of any of the hobbyists for that matter become shilling?

I get it when people drop names and start praising their ATF's or whatever here but is that really shilling in the sense? I got pm once from someone ( I don't remember as - deleted it) accusing me of that in regards to my previous post.

Where is the line drawn? I was just surprised to receive a pm in that regards becuase honestly I won't hide the fact I love the k-girl scene. I would not dare put out any personal info that would endanger any of the girls or bookers but I would praise them for their service, dependability, cleanliness, and what ever I felt like whenever I can. Is that shilling or just appreciation?

And, is it shilling to give a gal a 9/9 review, if that is your honest opinion, and you are not receiving a freebie for it?  NO.  So, what if you post a post raving about your new ATF, for whom you paid the appropriate fee?  Shilling?  I think not.  Go on raving and enjoy the scene, Beemer!

Is it shilling to say the Yankees are a good baseball team? Or the ocean is deep? Or the sun is hot? I think not!  

Shilling is when you give a gal inflated reviews although you really don't believe she deserves them. Generally there are underlying motives that revolve around some type of a quid pro quo compensation. My best advice is just be honest. The numbers game is tough with a lot of subjective viewpoints. I would recommend that in your (or anyone's reviews) you depend less upon the numbers per se, and more on the details of appearance, performance, attitude., etc.. Remember, we are all individuals and we have different ideas of beauty, as well as what makes for an enjoyable and satisfying encounter. Ciao!

Exactly....I don't know where this guy was coming from by Pming me saying I was a shill for the bookers...If you can see on my history, I have only pretty much dealt with certain bookers (2 to be exact). All the girls I have seen from these 2 bookers have been IMO excellent as they seem to have the best all around gathering of k-girls especially 2 whom I wont name so as not to be accused of being  a "shill"....

At this point all I can do is keep doing what I do and hobby. I just had to put it out there IMO there is nothing wrong with being supportive of your ATF or bookers. As long as their safety is not compromised all is good but because my opinion is different from yours dont accuse me of being a shill..I will respect your opinion so respect mine...

Beemer


Love you all...

Beemer , thanks for this post you express and vindicatev  yourself well. After war seems to be a tsunami of endless ads it  seems like a dream to read a genuine post again.

Some people throw cheep-shot accusations to intimidate , disempower and disenfranchise others, delete is the best response to these pms.  

you're fine in my book, for what ever that's worth... usually  .o2  

in  the opposite direction, I WILL let the booker know if I have any problems in regards to the provider so as to give them a chance to rectify the said problem before I air it out in public. The problem (not really a problem) here is that the bookers I have talked to, have always been courteous and very professional in regards with their dealings with me..

I ask for no special favors and none are offered and I don't mind or care. As long as I and the provider have a good or superb experience then I am satisfied. I know there are hobbyists out there just wanting to ask for hookups or whatnot but guess what, that is their choice and the provider's choice to give. Who am I to say or tell them what they can or cannot do.

Dont be a hypocrite though by telling me I am a shill when you are in fact doing the shilling behind closed doors. I have a good track record with the girls I have seen and have a good rapport with them and would never take what is not given freely and without any conditions..(god...I sound angry dont I????)

your good..just dont throw it in the fountain....

I think you've probably been accused because you are so earnest and eager, young grasshopper.  I think I may have said something along those lines to you at some point.  I am certainly guilty of raving about the k-girl scene as well.  Also you have had a lot of reviews in a relatively short time so it can appear to some that you're a bit TOO active.  Rubs some people the wrong way or they get suspicious.  Also all your reviews have been tremendously positive from what I recall, so it does some very one-sided.  You're bound to get some flak.

I would have replied to this thread last night but I was too busy boikin' one of my favorite k-gals.

I understand where you are coming from and appreciate that point of view..I never even considered that as well....I guess you can say my hobby pattern can be erratic but when I have my windows of opportunity I will take it and with gusto! The last week or so, I mostly repeated with some favorites and probably would have seen 3 new girls if given the chance....Possibly next week more new reviews, I dont know..it all depends on the windows of time that become open to me.

Honestly, I go into a session being very positive and no worries. If the girl sees I am trying to make her comfortable and myself comfortable..for me the session ALWAYS (i emphasize ALWAYS) goes great if not better. Maybe it's my personality or how I comport myself in the session. I am not one of those demanding types where he feels he needs to have his money's worth by banging the shit out of some poor k-girl..I may not have as much disposable income as some of you but I don't need to worry about it getting wasted if I go in with a positive agenda and not feel like the girl is a prize to be won. I go for fun and always leave having fun..I will probably hit the law of averages soon but until that happens all I can do is be positive about the hobby and enthusiastic about the k-girl scene.

Let's be realistic, I may be looking at them through rose colored glasses but in my brief time, I feel I have given fair reviews with my fair share of 7 and 8's. I have never gotten a raw deal or a provider that was "not into it".. I have had a some sessions with the ATF where all we did was talk and cuddle...

If my hobby pattern bothers people, I really can't do anything about that. The thing is I was taught by a very good buddy that if you keep worrying about what everyone is doing to your ATF or favorite girl, your gonna get old real fast and bitter.

thanks for the input...really never considered people seeing other being to active as a bad sign......jealousy perhaps?? insecurity? go figure...we learn new things everyday..

As long as Beemer is paying for his hobbying with his hard earned cash , which I am sure he is,  I have no doubt that his reviews accurately reflect the type of experience he had. Besides the last 10 girls he has reviewed include Lohan , Orchid/JJ , Lita and Sera , in other words the creme de la creme of LA providers ( including independents) , and his reviews are consistent with others's reviews of the same ladies. These girls measure at least 9 on the richter scale .  

Beemer do your think man ,and tough luck for those who don 't it. 

Db I would rather call a tsunami , given how the ads drown the discussion threads. Unfortunately the situation would will not change any time soon , we will still raise the the subject in the hope someone with power to effect change responds.
You are fine in my book too Db, in fact I owe you a thank you for your response to a response to a post of mine that got pulled.

just keep doing what your doing man.   to each to his own.

one thing though, Dami a 9?  man, i saw her at this restaurant and her face...it was all pasty white.  typical side effect of covering your face from all the tanning shes done.  and it was so old looking...probably another side effect of all the tanning shes done...aged her alot.   by the way, she was smoking like a broken car exhaust.  no wonder all those review comments about her smoking breath.  and her friend was ugly.  looked like some plain old mid 40s ahjumma.  wonder if that friend knows what Dami does for work?...hmmmm....

I think it's discussion board posts.  A lot of guy see K-girls, but don't see a need to go on an on about it on the board - singing the praises of the girls and perhap suggesting how cool they themselves are.  As has been said, a time or two, sometimes less is more.

As long as you hide behind the skirt of an alias anything you say is a irrelevant as you are.

I have no idea what Dami is like but  according to others she does not smoke , however you  are sick cowardly  assassin.What evidence do you  you have that allows you to throw your hateful  slanderous bombs "sickness must surely take the mind where minds do not usually go"( PT 69)  

I think it got pulled not for what the ali-ass said, but the tone of the response and the probable escalation in that direction. How could it be a shill - like all of us were going to hop a plane to DC??? geez... or maybe I still don't get this shill thing.... this is way off point on this thread... lol