for me, i am always wary of someone asking about rates right away. there are reviews and other info that will give you an idea of that stuff.
as for requests...i always ask what, if anything, i can wear for a gentleman. not only does it give them a chance to make a request, it also tells me something about the man himself. i welcome requests and i think other girls would too.
ellen
These questions are for the women out there. After being a hobbyist for over 6 months, I understand it is not proper etiquette to inquire about donations or services. Understanding this, I try and do my due diligence to find out this information via Google searches and sites such as TER that have this information (for VIPs). However, there are times where the information simply isn't available. In other cases, where there may be a few questionable reviews, I want to establish exactly what I am getting for exactly the price posted so that we don't have to discuss it when I get there. In these cases, what would be the best way to inquire/talk about this? My usual tact is to email or text asking "Can you send me information where I can find out more about your rates and services?" and then confirm the amount for the time before booking an appointment. Is this appropriate? A second non-related question is if I have a specific fetish or outfit request, what is the best way to broach this subject with a provider. Does it take beyond a first visit to request this (for instance, if I have a heels/boot fetish can I request that you wear an outfit that includes this and allow me to enjoy this when we get together?) or should I establish rapport with a provider first? Any help with these two questions would be much appreciated.
Hello MagicHands,
Most women won't discuss specific services or rates, not because it's improper, but because it's illegal. While certain questions are indeed tacky to ask, it's definitely more about the legal aspect than anything else. If I tell you, 'yes, my rate is XXX/hr and this includes A, B, C, and XXX + Z,' then I've just incriminated myself in writing.
If you asked me to send you information where you could learn more about my rates and services, I'd invite you to read my reviews and take a peek at my website, as would most ladies, I believe. If reviews are 'questionable' or inconsistent, I would suggest asking the lady in question if her TER pull-down menu is a plausible fiction, lol... asking if her overview is accurate or up-to-date implies truth, and I know many women would prefer not lending credence to any reviews before meeting with you. Or, just find a provider with more consistent reviews- in LA there are MANY amazing, well-reputed providers to choose from!
If you have a specific fetish or outfit request, again consider the legality of your request before asking. I will happily answer a question about heels or stockings because it's perfectly legal to do so. Anything that has to do with specific sexual acts is usually off-limits for discussion, but again, YMMV- it depends upon the woman, and some will be more inclined to answer your questions post- screening.
Hope this was at least somewhat helpful!
xoxo
H
I think plenty of fellas make it harder, than it really is by asking illegal ?'s & it can be very frustrating to us providers.
If you have a fetish simply state the facts when inquiring. Hello, I am interested in knowing if you will cater to my special request & indulge me in my fantasies? I prefer that you wear heels, or boots during our playdate is this something your open to?
I do not understand why guys ask stuff that is clearly available to read on my website, or reviews. Just, do your homework & make an executive decision. Never wait until the 2nd date to ask for what you really wanted the 1st time. Free advice if you can attend a M&G this way you do not have to waste $ to see if your going to have chemistry with a provider. Happy hunting playboy!
Some providers think that their website is like all others, or think their website is set up the best. This is simply true. Some suggest checking TER reviews when you clearly stated in your post that you do. I think they just like hearing themselves talk.
Not all providers like talking about the same things, via texts, emails, etc., so to expect one approach that was ok by a provider to work with all providers is simply not the best thing. That sets you up to get unnecessarily rude responses, even when you mean no harm or disrespect. It doesn't matter to most. Not seeing you is NOT going to cause them to go broke. You have to realize that, them not seeing you isn't going to kill you either. There's plenty of hobbyists AND plenty of providers. Don't settle. At he nd of the day, sometimes ll we men have is our principles. Don't compromise your principles!
The best thing to do is do as you have. Go over their website real well, more than once. Read a lot of their reviews. If you still feel comfortable contacting them, try various methods. Pm them here. Some don't like that. Email them from Date Check or p411. Some don't like that. Email them from their website. Whatever it is you try, if they give you an attitude or a shitty response, move on. Chances are they will remember you and might not give their best. besides, not everything they are willing to do can always be found in their sites or on their reviews. I mean, the two of you might click ZBIGTIME, nd they might be willing to do more with you. That's why you sometimes see "YMMV".
LOL. Simply pming them here and politely asking if you can open up simple communication can get a shitty response. It's a crap shoot.
When first contacting her, do NOT mention you have fantasies or fetishes. That can be construed as illgal, too!! And don't ask them if they'd wear heels, boots or whatever you want them to do. They will most likely ignore you. That's too blatant. A lot of women don't like that. Instead, be polite. Be a gentleman. Respectfully ask them when and where you can be open or 'direct' with them. Is it in an email from their website? Here? From a place like Date check or p411? This is your best and safest way to know where to ask those kinds of questions. It is also a clever way to determine their character and personality, to see if the two of you will click in any fashion.
Go to the newbie board. Try the general discussion board. Try pming a top 10 male poster for suggestions.
Remember. These women are safe for a reason. They are safe in different ways. Not every way works with every woman. If you are willing to sponsor a visit from them to your city, that opens up your choices, thus opening up your chances of finding EXACTLY what you're looking for. Don't settle.
And dont forget. These women compete with each other. They will do or say anything to make another look/ appear bad.
If they don't have a website, don't peruse them. Many of these women can be quick to tell you that hey don't NEED more business. Those are the women I stay away from. I see them as too arrogant/conceited. Those are the ones who are, more likely than not, will up and leave anytime during the session they so choose. Good reason or not. And they already have what they really want! Your hard earned $.
There are plenty out there. It's very difficult to see all the ladies websites/advertisements.
Some women find certain things "illegal" while others don't.
For every woman who makes it difficult to get info from them, there are several who don't. Of them, there are enough who are rude, conceited, dismissive or not real intelligent to make you frustrated. BUT, there are enough women with good character, manners and who are respectful of everyone that will keep you in it. And THOSE are the ones who truly deserve our donations/tributes. They are the ones who provide a "real" experience, especially if you have a specific fantasy or fetish.
And be careful. They all will want you to think they are easy to get along with and are understanding, caring and respectful. Remember. For a lot of men, this is a fantasy. And, just like in life, not everything is as it appears.
All the homework, effort and research can't give you one way to approach all the women. You need to have your principles and stick with those principles. There is enough "product" out there. You don't have to settle. It's your money. Spend it wisely.
There's much more to it. Slow down, back up, take a deep breath and think about it. This is a business. Most of these womens lives revolve solely around sites like this, but mostly around this "lifestyle/biz". This is how they make their living. That's he wAy it is for most ladies who do this, and realizing that, can put a lot of things into perspective for you.
Good luck. Take care and play safe.
P.S. It's not as easy as "simply stating" anything! Be careful. Tread lightly. Don't simply say anything!!!!
If you have a fetish simply state the facts when inquiring. Hello, I am interested in knowing if you will cater to my special request & indulge me in my fantasies? I prefer that you wear heels, or boots during our playdate is this something your open to?
I do not understand why guys ask stuff that is clearly available to read on my website, or reviews. Just, do your homework & make an executive decision. Never wait until the 2nd date to ask for what you really wanted the 1st time. Free advice if you can attend a M&G this way you do not have to waste $ to see if your going to have chemistry with a provider. Happy hunting playboy!
Anyone with a minimum of marketting knowledge should know that this is 2of the most important info to out iut there...
If you cant find it, then do not bother with her...
for me, i am always wary of someone asking about rates right away. there are reviews and other info that will give you an idea of that stuff.
as for requests...i always ask what, if anything, i can wear for a gentleman. not only does it give them a chance to make a request, it also tells me something about the man himself. i welcome requests and i think other girls would too.
ellen