The hobby is no way to practice getting a hot girlfriend. I have a friend who in a past life was engaged to be married and had several pretty girlfriends, but then he started the hobby and never looked back. Now his expectations are so high that he realizes he'll never be able to land a relationship that makes him happy.
Hello everyone! I have been enjoying this hobby for over 20 years and it has been WONDERFUL!
Sooooooo... I want to introduce my very good friend to the hobby - I think it would be great for him - you guys can post whether or not you feel it would be good for him or not. I would love to hear opinions.
My friend is about to turn 40, he has gone through a couple divorces and he has had the worst luck in the world with girls. He is super successful, funny as hell, down to earth and a great guy to hang out with. However, when we go out to the bars together he really gets discouraged because he has a tough time meeting a girl. That's not to say that he hasn't, but its pretty rare. I try to tell him that LA is a tough place to hook up, but he just feels down on himself and ends up dating a really ugly girl that is just mean and not a good person.
I think that the hobby would be great for him and I will tell you why:
1) It will give him great self confidence knowing that it's not just about the LA bar scene and that it IS possible to be with a beautiful, smart, sexy woman. Just having the experience with someone that blows your mind will allow you to relax and enjoy yourself when you meet a woman in everyday life. Am I not right guys??
2) He doesn't have to settle. This guy feels like nobody will ever understand him or like him but all of our friends love him! He is just down on himself. He needs a little ego boost and some self-confidence - I know you girls out there are the BEST at this!!! Hello girls!!
3) He loves talking and getting to know a woman and the foreplay that is verbal and the seduction that comes with getting to know someone. I know a lot of guys here feel the same way and appreciate this in the hobby (I am not this way and love to attack a woman from the get-go LOL - I love sexiness, physical appearance, and love to ravage a woman... but I digress... )I know many of the women here can understand this and appreciate it and know how to either work with this or actually enjoy this engagement better.
Anyways, let me know what you guys think. He has been one of the best friends a guy could ask for. He is miserable with the person he is seeing but is staying with her because he thinks he cannot do better.
I know his type - white, preferably blonde, big boobs, sexy, curvy but not fat. She has to be HOT but she also has to make him feel comfortable and shoot the shit for a minute. I haven't told him this, but I want to arrange a wonderful experience for him and cover all costs. Should I do it or no??? Am I bringing him down a dark path or helping him out?? Who do you guys think would be the best experience for him?
Thanks so much. I know I don't post much (I am more of a troll LOL) but I thought I should reach out in this occasion. Most everyone here has an open mind and I love that. I have met so many of you at Bond's meet and greet and I can say you are all good people (boys and girls). Any help or advice is appreciated
The hobby is no way to practice getting a hot girlfriend. I have a friend who in a past life was engaged to be married and had several pretty girlfriends, but then he started the hobby and never looked back. Now his expectations are so high that he realizes he'll never be able to land a relationship that makes him happy.
end of the day its never the sex. eating pizza once in awhile is great but eating the same thing over and over gets lame. ala eating pussy over and over gets boring...who cares if different pussys... pepperonni or chicken alfredo...its still pizza....
always comes down the personality and what you do after the sex... your friend will hit that wall and realize this. all eventually do
that you the provider relationship you had. I guess you can always dream . In the meantime don't worry about your friends being ashamed from you for frequenting providers. The only providers in your life are a figment of your imagination.
always comes down the personality and what you do after the sex... your friend will hit that wall and realize this. all eventually do.
ou mean nothing so go back to your ego up your self important ass and you and your twin lover Bigpoopsan can enjoy throwing your tantrums to each other...
is he religious or highly ethical etc....
i have some friends who think prostitution is a sin or dirty or is a crime or demeaning to women etc....and i know for a fact if they found out i was seeing prostitutes they would dump me in a second and be ashamed of me.
so comes down to how close and how much you really know him...
I can see your heart is in the right place, but escorting is not the way to boost his ego and to fulfill his life.
If it was just a sexual thing then i'd say hell yeah, give it a go, but it's not, he is emotionally down on himself.
Yes the dating scene can suck, but surely there must be other ways to find him his perfect match. Have you taken him to a singles mix, or even have him join a reputable dating site?
Or another idea if you want to boost his self esteem is maybe have a couple of good looking wg girls that you know and pay a social rate to and have them at the same bar that you guys are in and then they flirt with you. Not in your face kind of way, just something subtle but enough to salivate him
This will certainly put a smile on his face and allow him to open up on a real level and give him some confidence.
As much as you have fun from this industry it doesn't mean that he will. This industry can bring up lots of emotions, good and bad, for a client and a working girl.
Rather than surprise him with his 'gift' i think you should ask him what it is he wants.
And as for his preference, well wow, let me tell you, we all have a preference but that soon goes out the door when we meet someone who just blows us away.
S
Couldn't have said it any better.
I'd say if he's a decent looking guy, and is as you've described him, give him a subscription to a dating site as Ms Minx here has suggested. There are plenty of nice women out there who are looking for a solid, decent guy. The bar is not the place to go for an ego boost when you are in a situation like he is.
Now Ms. Minx, are you here in LA? Or just perusing the board from across the pond
I don't peruse young man, i perv :-P
And yes i will be in San Diego and LA from the 7th February
xx
I'd say if he's a decent looking guy, and is as you've described him, give him a subscription to a dating site as Ms Minx here has suggested. There are plenty of nice women out there who are looking for a solid, decent guy. The bar is not the place to go for an ego boost when you are in a situation like he is.
Now Ms. Minx, are you here in LA? Or just perusing the board from across the pond?
everyone, man or woman, should find the hobby on their own.
He falls in love with the first gal he sees! LOL Creating another problem!!! As long as you explain to him what my mentor told me.... Do not fall in love!!! Enjoy the time and the lady for what it is! Then go back out into the real world walking tall and feeling like a million bucks!!! That is not to say that at some point he might meet someone who in turn lets him know she might be interested in him in a different way. But I would drill the rule into his head first and often!
Especially if you're not going to tell him that the girl he'll be meeting is a provider. Just because you see him as a great guy doesn't mean he doesn't have issues with women. Two divorces and can't hook up with any lady. That tells me he needs to work on himself and his game. You just don't know what truly goes on behind closed doors, between him and women. I've know several guys who've had pretty good luck with online dating. What they learned pretty fast, though, is they need to work on themselves a bit, think about upping their game, and start thinking about what women want. It was frustrating for them at first, but they reaped the rewards of doing so. Of course, being with a provider requires none of that, however, being with a provider is a fantasy relationship, not a real one.
The other reason is, though you've been friends for a long time, friendships can eventually sour, and you never know when a friend might share your information with another. All this can possibly be used against you later. I have two friends; we've been friends for about 20 years, we often travel together, and know how much each of us likes the women. We even hit the typical topless bars and such, together, when traveling overseas. However, none of us volunteer information, or ask for such, regarding our activities with women we are with, in private. The camaraderie ends with knowing we like women, ogling and talking about them. We don't feel a need to share sexual exploits. It's safer for all of us that way.
He sound have good qualities
but he may be physically attract .. to bimbos.... or gold diggers in "date sites" who is another society acceptable GAME... what they most want is marry have babies good expensive cars coIIege paid to their babies and a big home .. not forget a good divorce.
not sure if is good to him be with an escort at present moment ... His ego is down probably made worse
you need to be emotional strong to do this..... and goes both ways..
He may want to try change the environment. Maybe he needs start to do things .. new sport ..art events that he he can met people in common
again i have no idea what he enjoys to have fun..
hard give advices.....
CC
-- Modified on 1/15/2014 6:47:26 PM
I Wish Him Well In What Ever He Decides.
Lick Lick,
Ashley
Your heart is in the right place but I do not think this is the right thing for him.
You might think you know what he would want and what he likes but you really don't know what he is thinking.
Just because the hobby works for you does not mean it would for him. There are many people, even the most open minded people that are still adamantly against the idea of paying for it. I came to realize years ago that us guys will ALWAYS be paying for it, either with civie ladies or providers. But some guys have not realized this.
I would only introduce him to this if he just comes out and saids something like, I just want to ravish a big boobed blonde all night and don't care how much I have to drop to get it.
Even thought he is your friend, your friendship can go sour or he changes. You can introduce him to several great ladies and he totally enjoys them or balks at the opportunity. Then down the line he finds the "almighty" then blasts you for your sinful ways or goes around smearing you with all your other work contacts about what you do.
Let them find their own way here, then great them with open arms.
-- Modified on 1/15/2014 10:39:06 AM
Your second paragraph is so true...
LOL
CC
You are getting good advice here to not go that route. It doesn't sound like your friend has a problem talking to girls, he just has a problem figuring out what to say to keep them interested. With escorts, you have to remember that you are paying these girls to be interested in you, so you can never really know if they truly are or if its part of the fantasy. Thats not going to help your friend one bit. I have no doubts that even with the ladies I've become "friends" with, they probably find me boring as hell.
You should definitely NOT do anything on the down low like hiring girls and not tell your friend you did so. That would only make him feel worse when they show him a good time, but don't pass their phone number. He's going to wonder what happened to scare them off.
Communication is the key. Nothing wrong with suggesting to him a road trip to Vegas and get some hookers for his birthday. See how he reacts and take it from there. Don't try and pressure him - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Lastly you also run the risk of your friend losing all respect for you if you bluntly out yourself to him as a hobbyist. You're a good friend for considering this. As with all things in love and war, always proceed with caution.
-- Modified on 1/15/2014 11:00:34 AM
-- Modified on 1/15/2014 11:11:37 AM
I listened to my brother for years talking about the hobby before I took the plunge. He has a lot to lose if his SO finds out about his ventures. I never could understand why he would take that risk by telling not only I, but others as well. You run the risk of a current or future SO finding out about what you do. Sounds like he's the type that would be better off with an eHarmony.com or a match.com. Many of my friends and family found their SOs that way.
Lets cut through the bullshit. You want to introduce him to this hobby so you have a partner in crime and a buddy to share your experiences & stories. Nothing wrong with that. Saying its going to give him confidence, an ego boost etc is a crock of shit. Look @ yourself, you've been doing it for 20yrs. Escorts can make u feel like like a king for an hour but once you're done you're the same old Joe.
Your friend should pay me to introduce him to women. If he is really looking for a serious relationship with an age approriate woman he needs to look some where else besides bars.
If he looking for strippers with big boobs, he probably isn't interested in a serious relationship.
Someone just recently divorced who is is having "problems" meeting women should not be meeting escorts
He will quickly mistake a paid GFE experience with something it Is not. Anybody doing this has to have a firm understanding of what he Is doing. You may meet some womderful women here, but one has to understand the reality of the arrangement.
AARON
Each to their own, but when I started, I decided that no one will ever know I hobby. Since that time, I had a falling out with the one person I figured could be trusted with this information. I am so glad I kept my mouth shut. I say be really careful.
If he's living in LA and remains unaware of the life-- well, that's hard to believe. There seems something private about engaging in the hobby, despite all the frat-talk and glib jokes on the boards. Your friend seems to have more complicated problems than just bad luck with women.
I would sound him out pretty thoroughly before opening my mouth with, "I know! Why don't we get you a hooker! Wouldn't that be fun?!
If what he's looking for is a relationship, this ain't the place to find it.
Are you sure your friend's bad luck isn't due to something like being gay?
Taking up the hobby is one thing. Being led into it is something else.
IF you take him into this, find him someone mature, close to his own age. And pick someone YOU haven't had a session with.
DON'T suggest that the hour or two you set up for him is IN ANY WAY the answer to his "problem." It's jus something to do, like getting drunk or going bowling.
Ask yourself, is he unduly neurotic? Does he cling to strong religious beliefs? Does he hate women? If so, then introducing him to the hobby could have very negative results.
If he comes to dislike himself for engaging in the hobby soon or later, will his self esteem fall even further? Would he blame you?
It sounds like his psyche is already on thin ice. So... Ask yourself, if you really want to help him, is this truly the best way?
Or-- I'm not suggesting this is the case-- is this just an excuse to share the hobby with a buddy so you'll have someone to compare notes with and reinforce your continued activity in it.
What if he felt guilty about having a night out (and that's not as corny an idea as you might think) and decided to hurt himself? Would that be possible? Would you be okay with that?
The idea has probably occurred to him sometime in the forty years he's been tramping around on this earth. If he's refrained from experimenting, there is some reason.
Hope this help you make up your mind.