Way back, before my marriage and subsequent divorce, I had a great pad in the Marina. One of my new hot neighbors left a note on my car door thanking me for helping her with her laundry... Well she was HOT, tall slim and beautiful.
We had a 2 month fling. But I noticed that her knees and hands were very large, and despite being slim, she had broad shoulders. A very unfeminine tattoo, on her breast, seemed out of place. Also, she had a slightly receding hairline AND her pussy, while very pretty, made noise (pussy farts) during intercourse. She also was very vague about her history.
BUT the the most obvious, was her Overly Feminine Mannerisms.. As you Mentioned... Like a drag queen.
One night I lost my hard-on thinking about it... Never dated her again...
A true transsexual, will probably never admit her genetic gender.... My advice? If it bothers you just fade away....
Not sure how to start this other than to say that I just had an encounter with a provider that if I didn't know any better was a post-OP TS but assuredly gave no mention of it anywhere in her ads.
Her mannerisms felt more like someone pretending to be a woman (like a drag queen). Boobs weer undoubtedly fake and the whole nether regions were questionable as well.
My little head overrode by big head and lord knows what does one even say or address suspicions like that in person.
Am I the only one who has been confronted with this and what would you do in my situation? I was VERY tempted to just leave but that could hav been ugly as well.
Really weirded out by the entire scenario
I'm sorry you were in a scenario that made you uncomfortable. Any client at any time has the right to simply say, 'I'm not feeling this,' for whatever reason, and leave. However, if she is trans and not advertising as such, that's her prerogative, and her gender identity and health/surgical status is not anyone's business but hers. It's dangerous enough to be a trans woman sex worker in this world; they make up the majority of murders (often horrendously brutal murders) in the trans community and experience the harshest transphobia and misogyny. If she is confident enough in her passing abilities and chooses to be stealth, that's her business. Keep in mind trans and gender non-conforming people experience more invasive and inappropriate questions regarding anatomy, sexuality, and surgery than pregnant women. While it's often alright to ask trans people more generalized questions ('What are your preferred pronouns? How do you experience your gender identity?'), if she didn't want to divulge her (presumed) trans identity, then so be it, and it was smart and respectful that you didn't bring it up.
Gender and sexual diversity are beautiful things. While I understand it might have been strange since she was not what you expected, chalk it up to an interesting experience. Thank you again for being respectful.
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...and I thank you for your kind words.
I guess I am just stuck on the truth in advertising part of this. As we all know from this site it takes ALL types and everyone has their particular "thing" (mine involves 17 car batteries, marshmallow topping, and a leaf blower along with episodes of Alf playing in the background - but that's getting off topic).
All I am saying is that unquestionably this provider has the right to her identity, but I too have the right to make the choice of what I prefer. There are no doubt hobbyists who would find such a situation exciting and appealing, but I do not. It does not make either one of us wrong, but in this case I was not allowed to exercise my preference and that is what irks me. The great variety that is out there on these boards allows us to chose what we like or explore something new. I just prefer not to be duped in the process. As far as I am concerned I was ripped off.
Personally I agree that it's a better idea for all involved to be truthful (this provider is also taking a huge risk that men of lesser caliber will figure it out and get angry/violent), and I'm sorry that wasn't the case. However, if you truly felt that she wasn't what you wanted, perhaps you shouldn't have stayed for a session. (I'm not at all trying to invalidate your feelings- I just know that if a gentleman was dissatisfied with me, I'd rather he leave than publicly say he felt ripped off after going through with it anyway).
Good point.....
I'll bear that in mind for the next questionable encounter. Thanks for your candor and insight.
Although I would tend to agree with most of your comments Harlow...I gotta say Hobbyists do have a right to know what they are getting into and advertising as that which you are not is flat out wrong.
This seems to me to be the ultimate bait and switch....There are hundreds of posts, if not thousands, of posts on this and other boards that universally decry the petite provider who shows up at 200 lbs or 22 year olds whom miraculously turn to grandmothers on the way to your hotel. So why would a trans showing up as a woman for this purpose be OK? I'm sure there are those who dig seeing transsexuals...great, if they're happy no issue here...
But what the gentleman described is way, way wrong..It's like slipping beef into a vegetarian's diet and lying about it...
I do commend the gentleman for reacting in a calm and cool manner...The provider was lucky it wasn't someone who lost their temper. Like I said to start..I'm all about to each their own...I'm not sure I would have had the same restraint.
Go ahead thrash me if you like but to me there is nothing wrong with expecting the very basics of what is advertised...
Gender and sexual diversity are beautiful things. While I understand it might have been strange since she was not what you expected, chalk it up to an interesting experience. Thank you again for being respectful.
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I would never thrash anyone on a public board; that's tacky, immature, and (I presume) horrible for business. I only believe in respectful, diplomatic discussion.
I actually agreed with you (please see my 'Truth in Advertising' post above yours). I only meant that it's not terribly appropriate to ask someone once you're alone and intimate with them; either you're uncomfortable and leave, or you go through with the session and (hopefully) enjoy it. I do agree that in terms of honesty, eschewing being labeled as 'bait and switch,' and avoiding violence, the smart (even ethical, perhaps?) thing would be to divulge one's transgender status in advertisements so a client can make an informed decision.
Thank you for stating far more eloquently than I what I was trying to convey.
I am sorry this happened to you friend. You should never feel tricked, or taken advantage of in this business if you ask for a real provider you assume she is a natural woman. Right a review, or send them an expressing your conserns.
* Karma is a bigger bitch then anyone if you want to leave it her...
Thank, Patricia -
and in keeping with my mensch style I will not publicly state who this is.....
Way back, before my marriage and subsequent divorce, I had a great pad in the Marina. One of my new hot neighbors left a note on my car door thanking me for helping her with her laundry... Well she was HOT, tall slim and beautiful.
We had a 2 month fling. But I noticed that her knees and hands were very large, and despite being slim, she had broad shoulders. A very unfeminine tattoo, on her breast, seemed out of place. Also, she had a slightly receding hairline AND her pussy, while very pretty, made noise (pussy farts) during intercourse. She also was very vague about her history.
BUT the the most obvious, was her Overly Feminine Mannerisms.. As you Mentioned... Like a drag queen.
One night I lost my hard-on thinking about it... Never dated her again...
A true transsexual, will probably never admit her genetic gender.... My advice? If it bothers you just fade away....
BTW: She was NOT a provider.
I never confronted her about my suspicions. And I was never 100% certain. The circumstantial (circumcised?) LOL. evidence was convincing enough.
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If this could happen here. If you ever decide to go to Thailand?
You better do some serious homework cause some of the lady boys over there are so perfect
you could never tell?
Wow sorry that happened to you. So wrong on many levels. Once it happens I don't think I'd like to know, just move on so you can have better memories.
In the course of the session if I were to find out what you suspected, I would have excused myself politely and left the donation. I would have avoided any confrontation. I am wondering though if the provider had reviews? I would think some other hobbyist would have mentioned this. The situation probably would have been averted by seeing an established provider or referral.
It is very important for you to know whether she was a man or not and if she was a man, was she gay. You need to ask questions. Too bad if it offends them. Your health is more important. Unfortunately, HIV is very high in the gay community. It is really important to know about their sexual history/preferences. I notice that there is a very active TS discussion board on this site as well. It scares me to think that some of these same guys who are paying for regular women are also fucking or being fucked by what is essentially a man if he still has a penis. That puts me at greater risk of HIV. I'm not against transgenders, but it's important to know who has what and who has been with who. There are some groups of people who are known to have high concentrations of hiv within their communities. It is wise to avoid having sex with them or, at least, to be very cautious.