"ugh" you say. You also say "we finally broke her". Such contempt! and how proud you are that "we finally broke her".  Poor girl was fucking hurting for christsakes. And yes, why bring this review to everyone's attention?

...how sad.

Last reviewer talks about her being off her game and possibly hurt or at least very tender in some sensitive areas.  Maybe it was an off day, maybe it's time for a "vacation".  With the amount of mileage the popular Korean providers get I'm not surprised that they'll eventually need some down time to recover.  

Given the delay it takes to get a review posted she's likely already rested and back again.

Ditto to that.

I can't believe the tone of your posting! You seem to revel in the fact that one reviewer gave Rozel a bad review as far as performance goes. What do you think? Are these gals not real people and that maybe they may have an off day? Does that mean that they deserve to be treated just as impersonal objects with contempt? The reviewer (davidwh5) that gave her a poor performance review certainly is entitled to express his experience with her; however,  it doesn't detract from the generally positive reviews she has received. I don't understand the context of your posting that says "we finally broke her". Are you happy that  in your words she's been "broken"? What does that mean to you? By the way, I don't notice any reviews on your part. Are you a player or just a voyeur? In addition for the record I am no "white knight" that is beholding to any agency or booker and I have yet to see Rozel, so don't for a moment misconstrue my motives. I just feel you need to clarify your post and maybe be man enough to offer an apology to the lady in question.

I could imagine if you were in her shoes you would probably take a break as well, doing the service these ladies provide you could least give her some respect and you being so arrogant and expressing to her like she was being interrogated in a concentration camp.

Rozel is a sweet 21 year old who puts herself out for our pleasure. In such a short period of time she has established a solid reputation ,built a base of customers and a pile of outstanding reviews from satisfied clients.

Yes she ,like all the girls work hard long hours seeing up to 10 customers a day. We all have bad moments on our job but we are spared the embarrassment of public evaluation.

 Show some compassion and kindness. Rozel is on vacation , she will return back fresh and ready to carve her self a place among our K-girl legends.

Personally, I don't patronize Korean or East European or any other high volume agencies (pimped out chicks on backpage for that matter) because I don't know for a fact that "no one is forcing anything on them".  I hear too much about sex trafficking to risk contributing to the problem and there are too many healthy ladies who provide for the right reasons.

I also have health and safety concerns with high volume providers no matter how hot they are.

how in the world do you come up with that number?

based on that schedule, that means assuming a 12 hr work day rozel or any girl has sex 11 (factoring in the 10-15 min to wash up and redo the makeup) hrs straight and then basically have only 1 hr to eat, goto the bathroom, or nap????

no way.  and i called for rozel couple of times and she always had an openning.

all my ATFS who are popular always made sure to get 2-3 hr break time.  at most saw around 8 guys a day.  

the girls are human beings not machines.

and most girls rarely get 8 guys.  most avg about 4 guys from what some of the girls and owners told me.

lets not put some overinflated number about the girls.  doesn't help anyone.

and whats with the tone by alot of you guys when you talk about these kgirls.  you make them sound like they're some sweet innocent young girls that you need to pity or something.   i know most of you guys are older but its weird when you guys talk about these girls like your her father or something.  look most of these "girls" are late 20s to early 30s mature women who play with men.  don't feel sorry for them.  they know exactly what they are doing and no one is forcing anything on them.  they made the choice.  so if Rozel or any girl gives a poor performance.  then they shouldn't have worked.  but because the greed of money they decided to see the client and gave bad service.  so its Rozel's fault for working instead of telling the booker she is going to take a break.  so she deserve the bad review.

Spending 1/2 the post arguing over the number of customers misses the point. The poster stated "up to 10 customers a day". Not "average" not "most of the time". Also, all appointments are not 1 hour (that's why they have 1/2 hour rates).
You also contradict yourself, as you state the "girls are human beings". Then argue that they are not "girls" and how people shouldn't feel sorry for them (like human beings), but treat them like greedy sex machines.
It seems you are the one who isn't treating them like human beings.
Some of us "older" guys are simply treating them as individuals, and with respect. We are not pitying them or feeling sorry for them. It's called empathy. Can you imagine what it's like to engage in an illegal business that's looked down upon by society, and to have sex with strangers (some of whom are a-h's) day after day? Yes, they chose that "profession". But, they are human, and aren't performing at the "A" level all the time. Do you? Maybe that's why these "girls" like "older" guys like us - because we understand them and don't pity them or just view them as sex machines.

Up to 10 is not ridiculous because in LA , OC and Bay Area  30 and 40 minutes appointments  are available. First appointments at 10 or  11 ,last appointment as late as 11.  You should perhaps take some time to speak to the young ladies.

In any case the gloating nature of the OP a most offensive and unnecessary degrading gloat. Nothing to add.

By the tone of your post, you seem to be a a jerk. You are what gives us hobbyist a bad name. Even though these girls have chosen a profession that society looks down uppon, have a little empathy for them. They ARE people as well. So seriously, by thinking we "broke" her, you have instantly dehumanized this person and made them just a thing...wow..just remeber dude, karma sucks and when it gets you back...tsk tsk..

If Rodney posted he might say,  "Can't we all just STFU?"

Don't know why the guy started this thread.  I'd say a jerk for calling attention to a poor review.  I'm sure the lady and her organization don't appreciate it.  But I wonder if they appreciate all the attention that follows?

Rookie/sudden K-girl experts (she'll be good as new in a couple days) helpfully pointing out what the post meant even though it was NoTrouble to figure it out.  Throwing numbers of how many they might see in a day, then debating what's plausible, what's not and how long is lunch break (anybody got any thoughts on their favorite food?).

It's not just this thread.  Recent one where a guy wonders why he can't get get a hold of a girl.  Simple answer - not in LA.  But no, not simple enough.  We need detective work.  Links, work history, speculation about bookers and/or owners.  Peanut gallery comments like, watch out for her, some think she's a gold digger.  Threads about the twins are as bad or worse.  But maybe I'm wrong, perhaps they would love to know guys continue to obsess about them.  Maybe they're happy that somebody is tracking them and keeping everybody else informed of their comings, goings, name changes, etc,etc, etc.

I presume the K-orgs could choose to participate in the discussion if they wanted, but it seems they don't.  I'm sure language is a barrier, but wonder if it's more that they'd just as soon not have all the attention and drama?

What a stupid post!!! don't you have better things to do with your time???

Some guys get off on being the only reviewer to SLAM a girl! It has NOTHING to do with "off day"  My mom is a therapist and she said beware the insecure guy that thinks he cannot have you. He will put you down as a misdirected attemt at making himself feel better than you! He will use ANYTHING in his power to "one up" you! I would bet BIG MONEY that he is an ugly fat bald nerd that used to beat off under the bleachers watching the cheerleeders!! Now that he has devoted his whole life to making $$$$ because he is aware that he will NEVER be able to get anywhere near the 10's that he delusionaly thinks he deserves. He thinks because he is the almighty CUSTOMER he can wave his repulsive  little hand and dismiss ladies with a bad review because HE is such the decerning conesoure with much higher standards than the rest of all you TER guys!! Wake up fucking call!! I LOVE all of you wonderful men and when I see you I make sure and give you the addoration you DESERVE because you are respectful of me as well. To this guy I say " get a heard of sheep and make sure you have a bunch of apples because even that harem will be wanting something for putting up with your bullshit!!   Please forgive my spelling, too pissed to care about spellcheck!!! Again I say I truly LOVE all of you TER guys with all my heart you are my lovers and best friends But to the minority asshole who  just wants to be mean cause he thinks his $$$$ buys him the right I say FUCK YOU And you don't deserve the wondreful girls here that live and breathe to please you!!!!

 I LOVE ALL OF MY TER MEN!! You guys are the greatest men to ever walk the earth!! I mean it and to those of you who have seen me you know that I worship every square inch of your beautiful deserving bodies !!    To this idiot who probably jacked off behind the bleachers  watching the cute little cheerleaders in highschool, You do not deserve us!!! Do us all a favore and stick to your Playboy magazine and fucking your dog!!!! I hope you at least give her lots of treats for her life of hell!! We providers are the bravest, most intelligent .devoted wonderful women you will ever meet. And if I catch you talking to one of them like they are just another one of your worthless toys , bought by your stup-id $$ trhat makes you feel like "the man" I will personally kick you ass!! GET OFF OUR BOARD !! YOu do not understand what we are doing here!!! Sorry for the rant, it was only ment for this misogynist asshole!!

Wow.  Does't take much to set this place on fire.   Twelve years on this board and the names have changed but the mentality hasn't... to all of you "white knights" out there -- keep dreaming.  These providers wouldn't fuck you for free if they met you in a bar.  They don't want to marry you, or spend time with you on the beach, or go the movies with you.  You know that, right?  This is a business.  And this is a website to help hobbyists make wise decisions when spending their money.  If you make it something more, then perhaps you are the person EVE77kn so graphically described above.

To all you ranting nuts, like EVE77kn -- I'm sure if you were capable of having a calm, rational, discussion we'd discover that my intentions weren't to harm anyone.  It was just an unfortunate choice of words.  However, the aggressive tone of your post has me believing that such a conversation would be impossible since you are clearly unstable.

As far as Rozel is concerned, I only mentioned the review because as I had discussed in an earlier post, she had been complaining about being overworked.  In fact, she had told me she could no longer sleep.  When I told her to take some time off, she said it wasn't possible.  As I said then, I felt sorry for her.   The next time I saw her she had definitely changed for the worse.  In fact, she was now acting out in a dangerous way.  I, actually chose not to partake that night, and left knowing I wouldn't be seeing her again.  When I saw the review, I figured the end had come.  And like I said in the post -- it made me sad for her.  That's all.  I was just sharing.  No, I take it back... In some way, I guess I was blaming you and me for what happened to her.  It was too bad.  She was once a very happy young lady.

I have seen private forums on boards where the guys brag about 'pounding her silly so that she can't walk and pitty the stupid fuck after me' and that post gets kudos from the guys - that kind of shit makes me want to arm pussy's with teeth!!! on call when needed!!! only I'm not God.

So yeah we are a little sensitive to our wonderful ladies - your shortness of verbiage did not help your position at all.

Well said madam, well said.

Things haven't changed one bit !

Well, what started as strictly an offensive post also turned into a sad commentary. I posted a couple of weeks ago about a girl nonchalantly talking about 10 guys in a day.

Like I said, I don't think you should have posted because it brings unwanted attention, but my assumption from the start was just a poor choice of words with no malice intended.

Sorry about my outburst.. It just really hurt my feelings ( yes FEELINGS GODDAMN IT)   Believeit or not some of us Providers really care about you!! I personally give my whole heart and soal to the wonderul gentlemen that I have the honor of sharing time with. When I give you all of me and you turn around and reduce it to a Penthouse Forum,shallow meningless "I fucked her till she screamed and begged me for more..I mean REALLY get a grip... Can you not tell the difference between a girl just "acting" like she got off And a REAL woman clawing at your back truly BEGGING that you "finish" her?? Guys, The secret is NOT a huge dick it is having th guts to let your guard down...to truly let go and TRUST (I wanna say US) however, I will only speak for myself
                                                                                                                                                 

I will get strait to the point...Please don't hurt me... I will go way out of my way and comfort zone

Responses to this thread shows much kindness by y'all.
As for the original strange post, I learned from a boss that "what you can attribute to a careless head, haste not to impute a callous heart."

I saw her few weeks ago and she was nice but I know some of this "bookers"(pimps actually) book as many as they can without caring about the girls..if the girl said "it was impossible to take a vacation" makes me think she might be here against her will..
Bookers if you have so much demand just raise the fee...you will end up making the same amount but you give these girls a break.

that way, if you're timed out, you can just log back in, go back to the thread, start a new reply and just paste in what you already spent all that time writing.  I've learned the hard way.

It hurts me to read a lot of this in so many ways. I felt a knot in my stomach, theres just nothing about this thing that felt good. And frankly, i don't give a shit what the details may be or the excuse offered AFTER the damage was done, i think the author made his point and his perception of the matter very clear in his original post....suffice to say, he probably really could not have given a fuck less about her personally in the  long run until he received enough backlash and suddenly became mother theresa. Thats not compassion, thats saving face.

Will this effect anything? Fuck no, because regardless of what the truth may or may not be, it will continue to be ignored and disregarded in persuit of your precious fantasy. 10 dudes a day? Fuckin really? Cuz ive had an ad up since friday and only managed to get 2 appts total this week, please enlighten me as to how to even get 10 calls a day. It really makes me wonder if my darkside just isn't dark and dehumanized enough to appeal to this hobby.

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please remember we are not ALL as heartless as the original poster. And are certainly not here to "break you". That was a callous and heartless post,from a poster who probably is not a lover but more of a hater...and obviously does not like women.