I think that I am just going to take a break from this.. as experiences keep getting frustrating.
I typically play in Vegas a lot but my last two trips were disappointing. I typically go for 2 days and book 2-3 dates. I have been canceled on at the very last minute which sucks when you fly, book a nice hotel etc... and end up ordering room service and watching netflix.. or meet a girl that advertise herself as " high end" and shows up high, intoxicated and with no energy...
So with that in mind, I decide to explore my options in LA... Book a date with a girl who advertise herself as 22, blonde, photos are super hot ( but no face... I swear each time I take a chance, the outcome is not great )... $700...I show up, she clearly is NOT the girl in the pictures, not even close.. probably late 20's early 30's... Tattoos everywhere ( no tattoo in the photos ) and while very nice, she was high or drunk and the vibes just weren't sexy.. so after a little conversation, I figured i'd have a headache and left.
Anyhow.. Just needed to rant.. I feel that the pool of talent is slim, the expectations donation wise are getting higher but a lot of what's being " offered" is misleading and leads to shitty experiences. I really miss some of the ladies I would see prior to Covid...
It's a total shit show now. LV is a bunch of flakes, new ladies highly questionable. Might be best to just shell out big bucks to see a PS through a reputable agency. While I much prefer the days of S. Saint, Destiny Dixon, Summer Brielle among others who were total bombshells, there is some nice talent out there like Avery Cristy who seems pretty hot in her performances. Why pay 800 to over 1k on a gamble...
I agree 100%.. Prior to covid i used to see the same 3-4 girls, one being a pornstar.. all in the $800/ 1K range.. and always had a fantastic time.. but they are all gone now.. so far since April out of 12 dates, 3 were good.. not fantastic... but good... one being in Europe. If you look at Twitter and see how they refer to men, the expectations and the entitlement, it seems that in their head they are here to do some financial domination. This girl was arguing that GFE does not mean BBJ and that men are ridiculous to feel this way. What bothers me the most if how they promote themselves as more high end, charging $800 to start yet the photos are heavily photoshopped or they show up completely not groomed , no make up on, not even the effort to wear something sexy and lay there yet they expect a deposit, a tip and so forth.
Agree the talent is non-existent. Every time I branch out from my pre-covid regulars to spice it up a bit its been a disaster! Lots of cash for zero return. I spend a ton of time researching and researching to still be disappointed. And the pool is very small. Most are well beyond their prime and beyond my age range. I pay top dollar and every time its been what a waste of money. Very, very disappointing. I'm just going to stick with my regulars for a while until this situation changes. Much cheaper.
Agree that it's not about the price point, it is about the experience meeting that rate. Prior to covid, I have seen many of the biggest PS stars in their prime as well as UTR ladies who are well into the upper end, and most of the time the experiences have been incredible and worth every cent. Now you have either young ladies with GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) who think just because they look good, the clients should be grateful for them to not cancel and appear on time and to lie there like dead wood, or ladies who are somewhat new to the scene, claim to be "exclusive" or "fill in blank" model, but past their prime (prime being relative, but for me personally, I prefer mid 20s to mid 30s) who charge fees that are at the level of a top 10 PS. If you are charging upwards of $1500 per hour, I am expecting someone who looks and performs like a PS in her prime. The last lady I saw was a PB playmate and glamour model, early 30s, great looks and performance but unfortunately way on the other side of the US. At this point, instead of heading to LA or LV with highly questionable talent, sounds like I should stick to maybe having her intro me to some of her hot friends.
100%! I have no problem spending more but I expect a memorable experience... the GPS is real.. I have seen some that dont even make the effort to be into it.. yet they all pretend to be " exclusive " with FMTY packages etc..If I had the funds to spend 50k on a weekend date and end up with one of these girls, I would be really pissed.
One of the regulars in my rotation definitely has mild GPS. Amusingly enough it is definitely golden. Most amazing ever. Never experienced anything like it before. That's why I keep coming back.
Nothing wrong with GPS is it is indeed golden 
Yes it is. That's why I keep going back for more. Off the charts!
What’s GPS??
I agree lots of bs and raised prices
This is it. A lot of people say they serve no purpose, but honestly they do. Sorry for the problems u have had.
Meet n' greets were the reason to live.
and ripoffs and replying with aliases because of blowback from these girls. This is what happens when the providers are allowed to interact with us. This site is for us to discuss and review providers as freely as we want, which benefits the community as intended. Other then the ad page, providers should have zero input on this site. this site should be for the hobbyists only.
Instead of complaining, write a review so the next guy doesnt make the same mistake.
Very rarely do they meet what most expect. Sometimes that can be because the photos are clearly altered or are glamour shots. But we also build it up in our heads, expecting every woman to be a knockout 10.
What burns me up is the request for a deposit. I’ll pay higher rates. No issue with that. But to pay upfront. That is where things have changed that are making this not worth what it used to be.
Too many times I have dropped off my rescue dog at the doggie hotel, been pumped to play, and my client does not show. Paying a deposit equals commitment to show up. Believing in someone who doesn't show up is a drag, it is negative energy I want to avoid, therefore, I ask for a deposit.
Drugs and being high, that cuts both ways. I am there, on time, looking forward to exploring and my client is late because he can't pull himself away from his drugs, or arrives high and I have to figure out how to give him a great experience in spit of the drugs.
When it all comes together: my client shows up wanting to explore, try something new, share a great time together, it is wonderful. I love my job. It is something I am passionate about.
I totally understand the concept of it. And I’m sure there are lots of guys that ruin it for others that don’t do drugs and show up on time. I guess where I struggle with it, is there are also providers that no show. So then there is the risk of being out money and the date. I suppose there is no fixing all of the bad apples on both sides. And if only people could just be better it wouldn’t be necessary/or wouldn’t cause hesitation in doing so :/
Yes, it would be super if everyone treated each person with respect.
However, yesterday, I decided to be understanding, this man needed discretion, he was a professional, and did not want to pay a deposit. I had read this thread on how gents felt it was unfair to ask for a deposit. I dropped my dog off, was ready on time. Got a message he would only be 15 minutes late because of traffic. Would I send a tease pic of me ready in the outfit he picked out? (He had me in text send pics of different outfits until he found one he liked) . I did so. And BAM! ghosted. No more text, nothing nada zilch. I cursed myself for being gullible and not charging a deposit.
Ugh, I’m sorry. That really sucks. Like I said, I get the idea behind it. I guess as someone who wouldn’t pull a no call-no show it sucks for us. We try to do it the right way and the bad apples are forcing rules to be put in place because of them.
Deposits have been brutal for the adventurous seeking me looking for the coolest GFE to ride with you sexy ass and just vibrant with you when you're hanging and banging. It's been a license to steal and 60% of them are not really here in our world just fake profiles to take upfront Deposits. Imagine 10 Deposits a day fake add 5 racks. Hopefully we can get together and throw some quality get together soon meet up with the social networking beautiful women any suggestions? I'm on Venice we have access to anything on the boardwalk everywhere Call it "Who Banging" Who
Hi Robin, I'm sorry you went through that bs. I don't mean to add more bad news but there is somebody using your pics on tinder. I saw a profile with the exact pictures that I recognized when I just looked at your web site.
I absolutely will not pay a deposit on an incall. As far as I am concerned, they should send me a deposit as a verified hobbyist. how many times do they flake or as a new one are not the girl in the pics. Also realize if you send a deposit they know exactly who you are.
I see many of you mention pre covid days, is this GPS, Instagram "model", deposit before play, bad service trend a flood of new providers entering the business and not understanding how it works because of covid and the need for cash due to lost jobs ect, or is this the new reality. In a world where just being pretty gets you thousands of likes and adoring comments its no wonder the ego on some of these ladies is out of control it would be funny to see how their attitude changes in 5 to 10 years when the younger prettier new generation is getting all the attention and they are pushed to the sidelines.
Don't get we wrong I have nothing against making the most out of whatever you have be it brains or beauty or talent, honestly I can respect someone who creates a brand and milks it for every penny they can for as long as they can just not when it comes to the hobby. I admit most of my hobby experience is in the MP and AAMP field with a handful of escort visits and because of the concern of rip offs and other things I prefer the high end providers my thought being they are more discreet, safe and provide quality service.
Maybe its a dumb question but where are the bad reviews on these leaches in the hobby? Are they being called out for all the thigs mentioned in previous posts? Once revenue is being lost it forces them to adjust or move on, doesn't it one would hope so. I'll be in Los Angeles next week and have started contacting women I want to see fingers crossed it doesn't turn into a blue ball visit.
Hey Sinner, Bad reviews? Almost nonexistent. I put a lot of the blame on lame mongers. Not only has the supply side has problems. I've really had it with reading a 10/10 review and then looking at the picture of this supposed world-class beauty and I find a plain older slightly obese women and that's with Photoshop!
While the younger providers have become overly entitled most mongers rate on the new Woke system. They want to be polite and not offend anyone. Which is the antithesis of what this site should be.
I understand that there are obese men that may prefer BBW but now these women are promoting their extremely unhealthy bodies as well as highlighting giant rolls of fat and poor skin. I'm sorry but objectivity still exists.
K-girl sites might as well not put up pictures since they are so unreliable what's the point. You know you're most likely going to see a 45-50 year old average looking asian woman.
I rarely see anyone these days because of so many disappointments. And god forbid you should point out the dishonesty of the fake and manipulated photos and you get your head bit off.
As a 65 year old average looking man in very good shape I pay to see a sexy younger woman that take great care of herself and is a good enough actress to make me believe she likes me.
That my friend is getting harder and harder to come by.
Obese and Granny fetishes are not for me.
Lip-lock call it woke call it fear call it what ever I think you hit the nail on the head but I think there may be another angle to look at. The fear of writing an honest bad review probably has a lot of mongers worried about the backlash and getting black listed in a hobby that requires references to work your way up to the provider you really want to see. I'm sure many bad reviews are never written because they just want a reference in their belt, worse are the reviews that are written lying about the experience damning those who go to see a provider based on those lies. There will be plenty who say beauty is subjective and I agree as you did but for a provider to list herself in categories she clearly isn't is not right. It is frustrating going through the trouble of creating a search for exactly what you want and still have to wade through the ones who clearly shouldn't be in your results
I know some people will take issue with me asking about reviews when I don't have a single review on this site. I've been in this hobby for roughly 25 years and when I was much younger I was so worried about LE that I decided to only write a review if I had a bad experience. Early on I was more into the MP/AAMP scene than escorts so more of my time was spent on those sites where I have reviews but stayed more on the general discussion pages. Maybe its because the sites are smaller but more of a community was built and honest information was passed on those pages rather than the review pages I never built those bonds here so I never contribute much.
I only like slender ladies & i swear most reviewers don't seem to know the definition of slim anymore ,when i look at the pics of all the slender reviews i'm like wtf this girl is not slim at all,unless ofcourse it's an Asian girl reviewed then it's guaranteed slender & like someone said already a complete waste of review space with fake pics all day long.Having said that ,its all about where you look, i hook up with at least one sometimes two brand new young college coed types every week i can barely keep up ,full gfe 200 to 250 4 at star hotels .I don't review them here because i'm not sure it's allowed .My days of overpriced milfs with all 10-10-10 reviews wanting background check style screening are over for me .Unless of course i'm traveling & i keep my P411 active for that reason ,but yea LV is a tough town for sure, which amazes me with so many hot chicks running around there, but trying to get a real one up to your room is almost impossible.
Curious why you would think the full GFE $200 - $250 women can't be reviewed? If they have any web presence Twitter, FB, IG, Only Fans etc to provide as a link + phone or email would be enough info to legitimize them here. I reviewed a retired porn star once and had to use her Free Ones link to verify her and it worked! Obviously I would love to know where you are finding these young reasonably priced hotties! Thank you!
I hate to have my time wasted too. I can totally relate with your frustration. I took a break due to covid & too many time wasters sending bs emails with absolutely no booking info. it's different hearing another kinky annoyed player that feels my pain this is why I don't hobby much anymore too. Sorry. I am legit & reserve my time for, like-minded individuals.
Standard tips at Oxnard amps were $40 to $60 for cfs & cbj. About 25 years ago I got standard service from an attractive 35 year old Korean. She fed me a sob story and I gave her a $100 tip. On the way out the door mama asked how I liked the new girl and I said she's fine. Then she asked me how much I tipped and I said $100, then I walked to my car. I could hear Mamasan Sue screaming at the new girl and the poor girl ran out into the parking lot trying to give me back $40. Now I work harder at my job, make the company more money and I make 20% less than in 1995. Meanwhile tips for much older, vastly inferior looking Chinese girls are $120 to $160.
of the hobby and nothing changes and no expectations are broken you feel fine.
Maybe it's time for everyone to lower their standards.
Most of these problems were caused by travel ban. With the country opening up today, more talent and better prices for good talent will improve.
Hopefully! Because the more I follow ladies on Twitter, the less I want to book.. lots of entitlement, nasty comments about clients etc.. I get it, not every client is a gentleman but I can list all my bad experience within the past 12 months and that would discourage the most easy to please client to book any date. I literally have not played in months because I am sick and tired of paying $600-1k for a date and the girl does not even make the effort to look semi presentable and at least fake a little bit of enthusiasm.
...some of them. If you gave them 10's for their looks, they must have been "semi-presentable," right?
My reviews are legit and the ladies I reviewed are 10's in my book... but do not account for a third of other dates I attempted to have.
Thanks for the reviews. Now I have a list to try. Haven't had a lot of luck lately either. Fake photos, bad attitudes, fake reviews, super expensive, it's rough out there. Much more difficult than pre-pandemic.
only review the good ones and not the bad ones? Sometimes a review of a bad session is more valuable to your fellow hobbyists than a review of a good session. It can help someone avoid throwing away their money on their own bad session.
The ones I did not review were because.. nothing actually happened... No show, cancelations at the last minute or vibes that were not good for various reasons that prompted me to just end the date during the get to know you first 15 min... Which has been my experience lately hence me pausing for a while... But I completely understand where you are coming form and the importance of posting negative reviews. I simply did not have bad experiences prior to Covid besides a well known provider stealing a deposit from me 10 years ago and the rip off in Vegas 15 years ago when I started and I was clueless...
...you have never given less than a 7 (Attractive) for looks and never less than a 7 (Hot Time) for performance. Judging by your scores, you've never had a bad session. Why don't YOU give negative reviews as you are advising others to do?
The K Girls are fantastic, rarely flake, always provide a clean, safe and usually nicely appointed place to play: hot shower, great clean up, fantastic service, very reasonable prices. The worst K Girl I ever saw was pretty good — a Six for service and looks — there have been some who lacked the passion and performance, but never had a bad session with a K Girl. We are blessed in LA…..
Of the numerous K girls I've seen over the years, maybe 10% were the girls pictured in the ads. I gave up entirely about 18 months ago. For Fuck's sake just put up real pictures. I don't expect a Victoria's Secret model for 300, but straight up deception is unacceptable at any price.
Of the numerous non-K girls I've seen over the years, maybe 10% of the photos were accurate. Usually, the pics are more than a decade old, they are completely airbrushed. or they were taken before they put on 30 lbs. The reviews say accurate and the photos clearly are not. I tend to venture in the higher price range and you would think that the photos would be close. Nope. Not happy.
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OP "I put a lot of the blame on lame mongers. Not only has the supply side has problems. I've really had it with reading a 10/10 review and then looking at the picture of this supposed world-class beauty and I find a plain older slightly obese women and that's with Photoshop!"
This is so true, especially on some "other" review sites where clients have to say nice things so they can more easily go through screening which I think sucks b/c I have no problem providing whatever the provider needs for screening. As far as this site goes, I dunno, maybe the clients are more easily impressed with what they get?
While I try to not post reviews, I do when the provider is a no show or steals a deposit. On TER those reviews get posted while on "other" sites they often don't which really sucks as it hurts the entire community.
I am truly sorry that there have been so many disappointments lately. I would personally like to restore your faith in seeing someone that looks exactly like their pics (or better), and performs exactly (or better) than they advertise and you expect.
yeah tough to find trully smoking talent ... thats why there is an upcoming elite private M&G coming up in vegas .. party is charging a premium as its going to be a fully catered open bar with entertainment event .. plus to insure to the girls these are guys appropriate for them
As I read some of these responses ($800 per visit, deposits, high and drunk providers) it validates why I only see asian providers now. There has been a drop in their service as well but only slightly in my opinion. I've been on TER since 2007 and long ago given up on non-asian providers. I recently saw a latina that was booked by one my trusted bookers and was disappointed. Everyone has their cup of tea but if you have no objections to asian ladies I would encourage anyone to check them out. They charge less and tend to be professional. My only current objection is that there seems to be a lot of asian providers that provide risky service. Use to be a only a couple that provided BBFS and BB Anal - now this seems to be the norm.
The Asian providers that I see are all listed on P411 and I have never been disappointed. I use that service exclusively now. Prices are now north of $1K/ hr for the ones I prefer but I don't mind paying that for top notch service and looks. My only disappointment so far is that I found a lady that I'd really like to see but I don't have enough "OK's" on that site yet to even send her a request. Ahhhhh..... someday!