Earlier this week I went to a provider that based on her menu and reviews offers greek. We had a good time, but when I asked her for an islands trip she said she couldn't because she wasn't prepared for it, and that I should have told her before our meeting that I wanted it. We eventually did not go to greece. I can't say I wasn't disappointment.
Never in my years in the hobby I mention anything sexual in the emails or over phone conversation when I book, because it is clear that that is the common practice, and it on every etiquette page of pretty much every provider website.
My first question is what is there to prepare for?
My second question is, would you expect a hobbiest to give you advance notice for an islands trip, or would you see it as a violation of the etiquette code?
Thirdly, if you do offer greek, and you know that its expected and you need to prepare for it, why wouldn't you let the hobbiest know you need advanced notice? Or would you ask for advanced notice?
Thank you ladies,
DTP
Ladies, for the sake of meeting expectations and stellar reviews, can we decide on a common practice on this issue? Thanks,
I do not offer Greek but have done it in the past and to answer your questions:
1- Yes it definitely needs preparation in advance to assure there won't be any accidents!
2- I would say since it needs preparation and it's not a comfortable one either, you may need to let her know in advance.
3- You can give advance notice without violating the etiquette. For example you may say "I am interested in one of the specific services on your menu, therefore I would appreciate if you will be prepared for it on our date", or "Please be prepared for our trip to the Greek island" !!!! This does not imply any violation of the etiquette.
4- Even if a lady offers Greek, not all the gentlemen are interested. Therefore may be 1 out of 5 of her clients would want to go that far and she does not see it necessary to be prepared for every appointment unless she knows it is needed.
I hope this answers your questions.
Just my 2 cents.
Love
Lily
A close friend of mine loves traveling and has shared, since I am a novice, that it does require many necessary preparations for her comfort and for the enjoyment of her friends who travel.
They don't usually show these in certain movies...so guys there is nothing to it..not true.
Seriously.......
Two schools of thought.....
One is clearly over the top obcessive complusive craziness....
"I go through a whole sort if ritual. I am all about being clean back there.
I have found for me.. enema's. Now... I will tell you I sat in rite aide prking lot for 10 min before going in.. knowing what I was looking for. Since I have read about this.
NOT a problem. It's with the tampons, douches and condoms. I got a WATER BOTTLE...with attachments for douch or enema. (You can also use it for your periods! Feels great on your back and tummy.) Just use warm water, and I use a dove bar of soap. Your butt.. really does come out to smell like roses!!!!! I did not use K.Y. ... just dove. It's gentle, and smells like a girl should. Stand in tub.. tub water on, warm .. fill the bottle. Put some dove soap on your fingers and just moisten the outside...and maybe just a little inside. (If you can not handle the size of your finger.. go on to something else, other than anal sex for awhile.( Put the anal attachment into your anus ( put soap on the attachment too) wait about 10 seconds or so.. You will fill like you really gotta go pooh. take it out.. and step to the toilet. Do this 4x or so. Then.. just about 3 to 5 sec back in your anus a few more times. Just to rince it out. You will be able to ex-spell this part right in the tub. It's really just soap and water now. You may have to fill the bottle 2x.
Now, For health.. I get worried too. What I do.. I put just a bit of regular yogart in there once in awhile. Gives back the good bacteria. (Not during sex though) Make yogart a part of your diet. This all sounds like a pain in the butt, but it only takes about 10 min. Give yourself about an hour before the anal intercourse.. you might still get rid of some water here and there. However.. your butt smells like roses... so let him lick and play with the outside. I'd rather have a ritual like this, rather than the accidental alternative. "
And the other is seemingly more on target....
Just wash normally, and make sure you don't need to poop right before!
Poop is held deeper inside of you than you think! It's not "right there"
Seems it would depend on personality type, or just an excuse not do it because they might not be really into it. To each their own, but I agree asking in a better way than "Hey, I want to fuck you in the ass"? disrespectful and rude.
Maybe you watch porn movies and think it's as easy as they make it appear, but it's not. I used to know a woman that did a few anal porn videos and they all have to take an enema prior to performing anal, and most likely, a provider would want to do this too. Plus, unless she does anal on a fairly regular basis, it takes time to SLOWLY stretch and relax the sphincter muscle so you don't hurt her. Just expecting it as an encore after you've had your first round isn't realistic in most cases, and likely to make you very unpopular if you insist.
The bottom line is this really isn't a first date activity! It's something you should talk about in person after you've had a successful date and she knows she can trust you. Then you can discuss what you'd like to do the next time you make an appointment so she will be ready.
No lady with brains is EVER going to be exchanging emails or talking on the phone about what sex acts you want or what she'll perform. It's a good way to get busted by the cops, and any woman with experience will just hang up the phone if the conversation goes in that direction.
Spend a little time on the Legal Board if you want to understand the risks and ramifications of having this sort of conversation or email exchange with a provider.
1) FYI, I have been with providers that didn't need advanced notice for anal, they just offered it "as an encore to the first round". Maybe they were prepared, maybe weren't. So my question was based on my experience, not porn fantasies, as you so presumptuously suggested.
2) So, the sphincter needs to stretch...hm...REALLY?! And there I thought it instinctively opens when Mr. Helmet says "Open Sesame", and that's cause I was born yesterday
3) "The bottom line is this really isn't a first date activity!"...REALLY?! My experience points to the contrary. Perhaps I have better luck with the ladies than you.
4) "Thank you" for the referral to the legal board. Like I didn't know that writing explicit sexual acts in an email is a LE red flag. You probably haven't fully read my post because in my second paragraph I wrote that I am familiar with the etiquette code and complying with it, which implies my understanding of the legal issue. Apparently, the ladies that have responded with very constructive feedback (unlike yours) fully understood my question and proposed a solution that does not violates the etiquette code. If you would like me to draw you a map, read Fallen Angel's post.
5) My initial post is titled "A questions for the ladies". So unless you're a lady, why are you replying?!
I can suggest a few online reading comprehension course
6) For someone with no reviews you have awfully lot to say. You may have been on the board long enough, but reviews are what counts. At the least you could have written a review for the lady that put you on the whitelist
And in the words of I-Cube, "you better check yo self before you wreck yo self"
DP over and out!
Your question wreaked of inexperience and naivete, that's why I answered it in the manner in which I did. Now that this board is half populated by virgins and guys who have never had a civilian date, it's difficult to know how to respond these days.
I choose not to post reviews. It's personal choice, and it's none of your damn business. It doesn't increase or decrease the value of my input to this board- except perhaps in your eyes. I've seen plenty of "my dick is bigger than your dick" dip shits in my life, so I'm not impressed by how many reviews someone has.
If a lady asks me to post a review someday, then I will probably accommodate that request. TER gives people a choice of posting reviews or paying for subscriptions, I choose the later. And that choice is far more beneficial to the site than all the guys that post fake reviews to get membership.
And by the way Mr. Know it All, I had a "date" that cost me $22,000 in defense fees back in the mid-90's before TER, so I'm just trying to save you, or someone else, from doing something stupid over the phone. Most of the guys on this site have absolutely no fucking idea how bad things can get if you get arrested in this activity and people start lying to save their ass. So save your sanctimonious speech for someone who gives a shit.
And, If you had done the research I did you wouldn't have mistaken me for a newbie.
The fact that your responded twice shows that you do give a shit...I'm touched (not really)
He happens to be Mr. Fudgepacker.
Keep it straight.
I am one of those ladies that offer and very much enjoy trip to the Island aka my "PASSPORT EXCURSION", but it isn't offer in every package so once a client schedule that package, I know in advance to prepare.
I have had a couple of regular clients request this at the last minute (because we are both caught up in the moment), but I have to just explain as much as I am going to enjoy it, that I do need advance notices (although protected gear is used) or it could be very messy/smelly. I know enjoy the fantasy and experiences that most gentlemen come to us for doesn't always include reality.
Thanks DP for the question, some gentlemen doesn't always realized the pre-preparation that ladies go thru for more of an enjoyable moment.
Tammie Taylor - Your Hawaiian Sensual Touch Specialist