relationship. I just do not get what I am looking for from the standard session with a provider.
Maybe it is that I am getting to old ( 55) and the age difference is too great, or that the knowledge that someone else was there an hour earlier or later .
Just wanted to see what experiences others have had.
I am in discussions with a nice woman from the SD site. I am really only looking for someone a few times per month
if the right circumstances came along.
My needs are not yours, but the end result for me was a superior experience with someone exclusive without the drama or baggage inherent in "civvie" relationships.
I know it sounds kinky but I often spend the beginning of the session just cuddling. The sex is great but cuddling feels amazing with the right girl.
I'm a pussy right? LOL! 
I've always thought and it has been my experience that 'Pillow Talk' has always been the standard by which I gauge my 'Date'.
For sex, I can always rub (or tug) one out...to meet a visually appealing, physically attractive and intellectually and emotionally (as far as her boundaries will allow) available woman is really what the GFE is all about.
I'm just saying. But that's just me.
DD
I signed up (free) to one site just to check it out. Getting unsolicited emails from babes mostly in Beverly Hills, some from East coast. Was wondering if these Hills ladies were pros or failed actress-wannabes.
I've run into at least one of each category that ended up providing, but didn't have their head or heart in it because they arrived at it for the wrong reasons. Several were looking for either a sugar daddy or a husband as a result.
From a purely cynical POV, the great thing about LA is there are so many attractive women drawn here that will never make it in based on looks or talent, usually because they don't have enough of either, or they don't get the necessary connections before they get too old.
Of course, it does give we men access to many attractive women we might not otherwise meet. As to the whole sugar daddy thing, I think it's a high risk proposition because invariably, the women have a sense of entitlement and you just become the latest guy they tap into before moving on.
Yeah, I did it once,but won't again. It became more like having a wife than seeing a provider. When the woman I was supporting in so many ways finally decided it was too much effort to have sex with me, I had to cut her loose and leave her to her fate. She was still good looking at 42, but she had overplayed her hand and no longer offered enough good stuff to offset the huge amount of emotional baggage she had. I often wonder what happened to her, but would still run the other way if I saw her coming.
A little harsh but has elements of truth. We all have are fantasies.
Harsh? Nah, I was being very generous. Between the woman I was dating and her GF who was a never-made-it singer, I had enough drama to last two lifetimes.
The sad thing is the singer had some real talent but it just never happened for her. Whereas my GF was a party girl (think Playboy Mansion type) that stayed at the party too long and never made any plans for the future. I was being very generous when I said she tapped into some guy before me and will do the same thing after me. I truly fear someday she will end up living on the street when he looks are gone, which I'm sure has already happened.
I gave her so much that I have a very clear conscience. Not only did I give her money, I tried to get her educated, I tried to get her medical issues resolved, I tried to get her business on a solid footing, I fixed her car after she crashed it (no insurance, of course) and on and on. She wouldn't even meet me half way and make an effort. It's that entitlement mentality I was referring to.
Sadly, she's not alone in living her life this way. You can only be a party girl for so long and then it's no longer funny or cute, it's just sad.
can one of give me a ball park of how much money per month are we talking about, and how do u even go about finding someone? i'm very interested in the sd/sb ? tx in advance for your help.
I am curious what others have paid for this as well.
For a full time situation at your beck and call the amount could easily be 5k per month.
I have offered 1k but I only expect to see her about 2-4 times in a month.
I would think that the SugarDaddy.com site is the best place to look. I have seen men post on Craigs lists looking for this using the term "benefactor"
I have looked at a couple of the sugardaddy websites, and I gathered from the tone of some of the ladies' posts, that sex is not on the menu, they just are looking for a benefactor. I am wondering if there is a best way to bring it up, you would certainly want it clear what the rules are at the beginning. Also, is there a way to read between the lines on the posts to determine this?
Most of them are aware that there is an expectation of sex. I think you could weed out those tht don't fairly quickly.
The ones that I have conversed with or met knew what the situation was and the one I met with enjoyed it greatly.
best way to bring might be to discuss "mutuall needs" or similar term and she what she says. The was that say Strictly SB there is no doubt
The service would be better, you could do overnights, vacations or whatever else made you feel special. And trust me, the attitudes of providers is WAY better than these sugar daddy girls.
There are providers in LA that are absolutely gorgeous, educated, and committed to making you happy. Become a regular, show her your appreciation and you'll be treated far better than one of these spoiled and selfish sugar daddy seeking princesses would ever do.
And just as a point of reference, $1,000 per month will buy you nothing but her contempt if she's really looking for a sugar daddy.
Anyone in LA you would recommend? PM me if you have some suggestions.
If you want it to be a long-term thing, then only you know what it takes to float your boat.
I've met some very cool girls who would never admit to being an escort... but in the end if one girl could satisfy my craving for variety I would have married her! But to each his own...
In adition to whatever you pay her in cash there are the dinners, gifts, appeals for help with rent/car/bills etc.
And because she is not really in love with you nor openly providing, you will have uncertainty and disappointments regarding sex. And because she is a woman there will be drama. Oh the drama.
I checked out those sites, mainly cause I heard a number of playboy playmates were on there and frankly I was shocked at how demanding and greedy and downright unattractive many/most of these girls are.
You are better off becoming a regular with 2 or 3 girls and/or an agency and try and make a conncetion. Hanging out is no fun if you don't get along anyway. And if they like you (obviosuly, a lower standard for a client than a BF) you will get what you are looking for in terms of extended time, keeping in touch between sessions, even a dinner date.
But again, careful what you wish for. I became a regular with one girl and it was great...overnights for $400, hangng out having some drinks and some laughs. Then she invites me to spend the day with her daughter and starts texting me whenever she is in the area or needed money. All of a sudden what started as the best provider situation ever morphed into the worst girlfriend sitaution ever.
Of course, I am a dumb ass dog and got hammered this weekend and texted her to see how she is doing, so do as I say not as I do my frined.
I stumbled into a fantastic SD/SB relationship, and if the trend of the conversation I found here was any guide, it looks as if I really hit the jackpot.
This was at the mid-four figures per month level, for what it's worth, but that worked out to an overnight per week, pretty much everything on the menu, swinging, threesomes.. you name it.
Upthread is a lot of good sense about the "above the line" costs, as well. In our case that included hotel rooms, plane tickets, food, wine, and so forth. On the other hand, she managed to get me set up with a business deal via her work which paid off pretty well, so I may actually be "ahead" on the arrangement. That's even net of the augmentation.
The conclusion of this particular arrangement had a happy ending as well - with my help she wound up getting her kids back full time as she managed to get on her feet.
As to where to look, Sugardaddie.com and SeekingArrangement.com are both good places to look. Be openminded and meet a few people... what they say they're looking for and what they're actually looking for aren't always exactly similar. And in addition to the potential for drama be mindful of the not trivial hazard of catching some serious feelings for her.
Hope this helps.
My SB experience was one of the best and most important years of my life.We spent a year and a half together...then his dream girl came along-
And that was the last time I saw him or heard his voice.We're still in contact via email constantly. He enriched my life in so many ways he is simply Irreplaceable.I really feel grateful to have had him all to myself..Even if it was just for a little while.