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Re:Deniability
devinebeauty See my TER Reviews 6267 reads
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I must agree.  When I come in, I take a good look around.  If I see an envelope, and its marked donation than I knonw its for me.  It also alows the provider to make sure to give a fair amount of time, in case the seeker adds a little extra without discussion.  If I don't see my donation than I already know there is going to be discussion about it, and it makes me wonder?

on several occasions I have driven myself nuts looking for an envelop... could someone please help me?  what is the reason for the envelop!?   I know it makes it easy to carry a wad of 20s but beyond that, what is the mystique behind the envelop!  and is a bank deposit envelop good enough?  lol!

it's so you can get a running start before she discovers you stuffed it with pictures of george.

BE sure to seal it, and you get another 30 seconds.

I suppose that the provider can use the argument that "I had no idea there was any money in the envelope" defense; but the likelyhood of that standing up to a judge or jury is pretty remote.

Otherwise, we're just saving the provider the cost of finding a way to keep the bills all in order while it's in their handbag.

I've taken to buying cases of envelopes from Staples to cut down on overhead. :o)

(still not a lawyer, not much of a comedian either.)

banks have these cash envelopes that are the perfect size for bills to be placed in them

Not sure about the legal angle....but giving money in an envelope is more classy than just passing on a wad of bills

I bring other stuff with me besides the envelope (a newspaper or magazine, if its during the day my briefcase).  I never mention a word about the donation -- either at the visit or any time beforehand -- and when I come in I set the envelope down immediately, in a very prominent place so there is no way she can miss it.  And then I never ever talk about it.  When I leave I take my other stuff, but leave the envelope behind.  Sometimes the providers mention $$$, but I never do.

I must agree.  When I come in, I take a good look around.  If I see an envelope, and its marked donation than I knonw its for me.  It also alows the provider to make sure to give a fair amount of time, in case the seeker adds a little extra without discussion.  If I don't see my donation than I already know there is going to be discussion about it, and it makes me wonder?

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Legally, the is really no benefit for the envelope.  a prosecutor could use it as evidence of intent if you were to be charged.

I believe it's mostly a 'classy' thing.  Throwing a wad of cash at a provider isn't very classy.

(disclaimer: not a lawyer)

This might not be classy but, sometime I put the bills in the little motel key holder envelope. It hold the bills with a little exposed so it can been seen and lay it on the place that I think will be where she lay her purse down.

Some providers/agencies insist on the envelope and some don't. I think the "I didn't know what was in there" alibi is probably what it's all about regardless of weather it would stand up in court or not.  Either way, if you don't use an envelope it doesn't mean you have to just throw a wad of bills at the lady. It's still possible to stack them neatly on the dresser....right?
I agree about discretion. The first thing I do when I walk in is place the envelope in plane sight. I then excuse myself to the bathroom to wash up so the lady can check the amount discretely if she wants to. Since I've been seeing regulars only for about a year now this hasn't really been an issue but I think it's nice to give a new gal the option...and piece of mind during the session.

I've started going by the local card shop and buying a card.  
A blank or genaric message card works fine.  Or if its around some holiday like Chirstmas or St. Partricks Day I'll get one of those.
I think its a little more classy than a plain envelope full of cash.

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