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Question on "massages"
mrfisher 115 Reviews 1561 reads
posted
1 / 9

some states have statues that are a bit vague on that score.

However, touching crosses the line, and could end up getting busted for that.

If no reviews, it's a dicey situation.

(still not a lawyer)

novajeepfreak 19 Reviews 3064 reads
posted
2 / 9

Just wondering where the legality of a lady advertising massages run....she states that you can be naked, covered with a towel or not, your choice...and you have the choice of her being clothed or not....she does state that you can touch her....

She's new and doesnt have reviews I just want to check where the legal issues, if any, might be...

Thanks,
Nova

novajeepfreak 19 Reviews 1342 reads
posted
3 / 9

Yea, I hear ya....and that's why I have not committed to seeing her....

shudaknownbetter 1400 reads
posted
4 / 9

pretty much have to be naked.  It's termed "draped" or "undraped".  Usually a towel is used...  It can "fall off" when you turn over.  If she is a Licensed Massage therapist (LMT) touching breaks their code of conduct...  as a medical professional...  cost her her license (if she has one) and expose her to sexual misconduct charges (ie prostitution).  
Some jurisdictions require a license to advertize "Massage".  The term 'body rubs' was coined to avoid these charges until many laws were rewritten more carefully.  

This type of service costs less that a FS provider but is fun if you are so inclined.  I am sometimes.  She should be very careful as advertizing can draw LE and municipal code enforcers as well.  If she is new, you want to be careful that her errors do not include your visit.  She should be screening just as a provider would, depending on the local climate.
skb

novajeepfreak 19 Reviews 1435 reads
posted
5 / 9

I think she's pretty new but I dont want to insult her by pointing out things....I've never seen anyone but a FS provider and with things getting tight, was thinking I might try and go this route....

thanks!

shudaknownbetter 1351 reads
posted
6 / 9

once a Fav lady had an ad...  there was only one small motel at the highway exit.  I pointed out the lack of discretion in an email & the ad was edited within the next hour.
Occasionally I notice something with someone I have met...  a gentle word is all we can do.  WE are not in charge.  My Fav ladies know I care for them as friends, and appreciate the concern.  They may make decisions I don't agree with...  I have to let it go.
skb

shudaknownbetter 1119 reads
posted
7 / 9

It's a different experience, if you feel like pampering.  Sometimes there can be some reprocation but often not.  FBSM/HE  There is more variation in FBSM providers...  services & prices...  

Now if a Massage lady offers FS, it may end up costing more a la cart than the all inclusive rate...
skb

DClaw 1115 reads
posted
8 / 9

Fairfax County ordinace provides:

It is unlawful for any person, in a massage establishment or during the course of an out-call massage transaction, to touch, with any part of his or her body or with any object, another person's clothed or unclothed erogenous area.

(b)
It is unlawful for any person, in a massage establishment or during the course of an out-call massage transaction, to fail to conceal his or her erogenous areas with a fully opaque covering while in the presence of others.

(c)
It is unlawful for any person owning, operating or managing a massage establishment or out-call massage business to knowingly cause or allow, in or about such massage establishment or as part of an out-call massage business, any agent, employee or any other person under his control or supervision to perform any act prohibited by this section. (09-00-28.1)

you can find any municipal code at
http://www.municode.com/library/library.aspx

corrected typo in subject line

-- Modified on 11/15/2011 5:25:22 PM

alexandrasmith 1154 reads
posted
9 / 9

In Virginia it is legal to give a handjob for money. Yes, really. VA has an archaic prostitution law that defines it as compensation for an act of fornication or sodomy. Those terms are also clearly defined; bottom line is that the only things you can't do for money are oral sex or intercourse with a real penis. Toy play and handjobs are legal, as is BDSM play. In order to bust a massage parlor and have it stick the authorities have to prove that other acts are taking place.

However, it is illegal to perform massages for money without a license, and many places lack other business licenses. Busts can be based on that.

Clients are going to be safe in those cases. They are breaking the law by giving you a massage but you aren't. Just keep your mouth shut.

Similarly, if you go to an individual who doesn't have a massage license, you are not breaking the law, only she is. Of course, if she negotiates other services with you then the risk begins to attach. However, I think the odds of LE setting up as a freelance "massage" business to lure clients is small. It's a lot of trouble when there is low hanging fruit to go after, and if the lady provides the massage in order to trap you she is breaking the law herself unless she has massage training. It's just not going to happen.

If you want to maximize safety wait until she gives you the massage and wait for her to offer other services rather than asking.

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