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couple of things
golfman2099 8880 reads
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1)  Does LE in most cases actually inform an employer of an arrest on a misdemeanor?  or is it usually up to the company to find things out on their own?

2)  What info are you required to provide if busted by LE?  Name? addy? work?  What if you do not have an ID on you?

3)  If you know your providers bday and you put your  donation in a card (belated possibly, "I have been unable to get here to see you, here is your card and gift") so it seems to be a present?  How do you think that would work?  Its not illegal to give someone cash for a birthday, and if you are close its not a crime to engage in any activity that 2 adults are allowed to engage in.

just wondering.

but as for number 3, there have been no end of clever ploys to try to disguise the real reason for the exchange of money.

The problem is that they are almost always too transparent for anyone to fall for them.

Ask yourself this question:

If you were on a jury and saw all the facts exactly as they went down, and you had no bias one way or the other (I.e. you accept that the law is the law whether fair or not.), what would you decided was really going on?

(still not a lawyer)

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{{{3)  If you know your providers bday and you put your  donation in a card (belated possibly, "I have been unable to get here to see you, here is your card and gift") so it seems to be a present?  How do you think that would work?  Its not illegal to give someone cash for a birthday, and if you are close its not a crime to engage in any activity that 2 adults are allowed to engage in.}}}

I think MrFisher is referring to me... giggle I've tried em all, but I gotta go with him here.

For one thing, if you know your providers b-day it's highly unlikely she's going to bust you.  For another if you are responding to a LE ad it's highly unlikely anyone is going to believe you and the decoy are old friends.

But it's good to see you are thinking.  

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)
Don't call me for bail.

Senator Craig got busted for NOTHING. He did not verbally solicit for sex. He did not offer money. He did not touch the officer. All he did was tap his toes and wave his finger around.

So I'm figuring, if toe tapping & finger waving can be interpreted to mean illegally soliticing sex, then there is NO chance of getting away with dropping a wad of money on a dresser and claiming it's a birthday present.

Exactly what misdemeanor would this be?  Solicitation?  Your worry should be a sting, not the police busting in on you and a legitimate provider.  The problem is that quite often the goal is to embarrass you and stop others from engaging in the activity.

I wouldn't worry about #1 unless you're in a small town where gossip is the issue.  If you're in any decent sized city the police have better things to do than call around town announcing their arrests.  Now, your name may show up in the local newspaper or on the city website since arrests are a public record.  If your company wants to find out they will.

With respect to #2 ... I can promise you they will want your name and address.  If you don't have an ID and they are really interested in you, expect to go for a ride.  

Not trying to be a downer for you.  Hobby smart and you'll be fine.

1) I don't think so...I've never heard of it unless the bust has something to do with your arrest. Ex. You solicited on company property. I do know for a fact that they are required to alert your landlord if they bust you at your apartment.

2) If you don't have your ID it can be a plus and a neg. If you're aren't in the system it will take hours to verify who you are. and it could go either way from there. I've seem girls get DTA summonses and released from the precinct. I've also have left behind ladies cause it was taking forever for their paperwork to come back from Albany. But I f you are already in the system, it doesn't really matter they will utilize your fingerprints for ID and if you give them another name it will be considered an Alias.

3) If you know your providers bday that means you attained that information for a credible source. Like her website, or her personally. You are less likely to get arrested if you know the provider on that level. And never ever inform LE that you and her are old friends. They normally use a decoy and they will try to put on a act like they were watching said provider and she is real and will pretend to arrest her too. Best thing to do is just keep quiet, only answer questions pertaining to your information and let them conduct their arrest. The more you say the more they can use against you!

I'd bet 5 bucks Sen Craig was blabbing "Please don't arrest me i'm a Us Senator!"

If you are arrested your arrest will appear in the local newspaper. If your paper has a web site as most do, it will appear there as well. Your name, address, the offense for which you were arrested, the date, time, location and possibly your age will be included.

  You would be amazed at the number of people who scan these notifications every day to see if they know someone. The fact that its usually online makes the process even easier. The next step is that someone who finds this a juicy piece of gossip will cut and paste it off the newspaper's web site and email it to 20 of your closest friends many of whom will pass it on.

  You need not be convicted, the arrest is sufficient.

-J

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