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Can I Get Arrested Just For Seeing Clients??
I was advsed by the hotel staff at the hotel I was doing incalls at......that a detective from a local law enforcement agency came in asking to have all of my records for hotel stays, personal info, license plates, etc.
I got really freaked out and never went back to that hotel again. I am just wondering if I actually can be arrested for doing incalls and being videotaped having clients go to and from my incall hotel room, or do I actually have to agree to something illegal for monetary compensation to an undercover cop.
anybody got any advice???
Thanks.
The hotel can ban you for little or no reason and obviously they saw what was happening.
LE has to observe you commit a crime to make a misdemeanor arrest (we beat that one to death awhile back) and having men come and go (pun intended) from your hotel room is not a crime.
Is it suspicious? Sure. Might they try to target you because of it? Maybe. But to do so they are going to have to find out how to contact you and set up a date and then have an undercover officer play you and get you to solicit him. This is all very unlikely though.
Most probably the hotel staff was jerking your chain either to get you to go elsewhere or trying to get you to offer a freebie for their cooperation.
LE only has SO many resources and doing some kinds of investigation to try to make a misdemeanor soliciting bust just doesn't sound probable.
thats worth .02
MVR
is always wise.
I remember years ago, a photographer friend told me about some models that would rent hotel rooms
and charge $200/per session & basically have a revolving door of "fotogs" taking playboy style
pictures.
The hotel room was perfect as they had privacy & easy to touch up makeup & wardrobe changes(yes wardrobe)..
just another innocent scenario.
I posted this a few months back. My ATF and I both had to drive about 45 minutes to meet and there were very few motels to choose from. So she would rent the nicer one. We did this on/off over a 6 week period.
The last visit she got the room as normal and would tex me the room number. When I arrived and we were just sitting on the bed catching up she got a call in the room. The manager told her on her last stay some pillows were missing and so he had called the police to come and talk with her. After a quick discussion we decided it would be best that I leave and so I went to a nearby location. We talked on the phone and she decided to got to the lobby and talk with the manager about this as they had her home adress from her D.L. She asked him what the deal was and he basically told her that he had ran the logs of her stay and she was only staying around 2 to 3 hours and never staying the night. He didn't like that activity and so he was letting her know. She demanded the money back and needless to say we rent different rooms so no patterns can occur. The threat of the police was just that, a threat when indeed he had not called them.
Your motel manager was probably pulling your chain like he did my ATF as he was giving you a big hint not to be using his hotel.
Good luck!!..DB8
NO, You could not be arrested on the basis of what you have presented. The scenerio you describe would be suspicious and if turned over to LE could lead to further investigation which might lead to an arrest... but they'd have to get an undercover into your room with you.
I agree with the others that this was a bluff to scare you away... that they did not want your business at their hotel.
I think many hotels "know" but choose to ignore what is going on since they're making money too. The staff may not like the inconvenience of the occupied room when they're cleaning which is why one should tip the staff well. One must always be discrete.
I have occasionally used a stairwell & side exit to avoid the elevators when leaving... less lobby traffic & I'm certainly not worried about the door locking behind me.
Even hotels which "know" can not openly allow it to go on... Public Pressure could really hurt them as well as you.
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but they could certainly harrass and intimidate one of her customers into giving them probable cause to "kick in the door" on her next appointment.
Leaving that particular hotel immediately is by far the best course of action. When you are engainging in illegal activity you forfeit the right to get indignant.
If the hotel does not want your business, then you should relocate. Absolutely. It's not discrete for you or clients. A black & white parked outside will spook your clients anyway.
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Normally, you couldn't be arrested based on what you describe. But that's not to say you couldn't be harrassed or threatened in some way. by LE or the hotel management. Best to graciously smile and move on.
If I've learned anything from reading this forum it's this:
1. You can be arrested anytime for anything or nothing.
2. The cops will lie if necessary to make their case.
3. No judge will give you the benefit of any doubt.
Have a nice weekend!
Well said and in the vast majority of situations, exactly the way it will be. And in dealing with suspected solicitation sorts of things, even if you keep your mouth shut, that by itself is enough to get you arrested for loitering in many counties in Georgia because at the request of police departments, city councils have relaxed the requirements for a loitering charge to be made. The charge may not stick, but you will find yourself locked up if the LE folks intend to make a point.
enforcement
There are approximately 800,000 law enforcement officers in the United States. Do some of them intentionally make unlawful arrests? Yes, but while I don’t have statistics either, I have to assume the number is very, very small because of the checks and balances in the system. Every arrest in reviewed by a neutral magistrate to determine if probable cause existed for the arrest. Before the DA decides to prosecute, he and his staff will likewise review the arrest and defense attys will challenge the arrest if there is the slightest opening. So every line officer knows his decision to arrest will undergo intense scrutiny by all three groups.
Officers who repeatedly make bad arrests are subject to internal sanctions. Further , there is a more serious disincentive for unlawful arrests. Any officer who arrests without probable cause can be sued by the arrestee for damages.
So, for every horror story like CathyB, there are probably hundreds of thousands of arrests conducted by the book. You would have to be really unlucky to run into a rogue cop who intentionally make unlawful arrests.
Sounds like the hotel wanted you to take your business elsewhere and decided to scare you away instead of telling you to leave. Not a bad tactic on their part - you can not say they were discrminating against you.
There are friendly hotels all over - ask your fellow providers for some tips and be as discreet as possible.
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