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NeedInfoplz4368 reads

Hey I am a new provider just starting out.

Yes I am using an alias because I have been "attacked" on other boards by flamers and I am in no mood to deal with that.

This morning I was finishing up my incall location. I had been chatting/emailing back and forth with a potential client. I do not have p411 or datecheck so I try to screen best i can thru emails and I am still new with no guiidence so I am onmy own to learn the hardway.

Anwyas I am located in Maryland. This guy shows up...comes in... i give him a few kisses...we proceed to bed. Where I start a nice bbj. He did not want to take off his clothes all the way so he just pulled down his pants.

He appeared to enjoy it and he wanted to go to greece so I abliged. We finished rather quickly (he said he wanted an hour) He went to bathroom to wash up. He came out and we started chatting a bit. He asked had I ever been robbed and how i need to be careful. then he asked if i had ever been busted.

I said no...he kinda acted weird...and I made a joke about him being a cop. He gave me a look and I said ur kidding. He lifted his sweatshirt to reveal what apppeared to be a badge that hung around his neck.

I immediatly got upset and asked if he wazs going to arrest me. He said no that I was a sweet girl and that I had kids etc. He also stated that if i had appeared to be a druggie or have drugs on me he would have called his sergent. We chatted a bit and he did give me some good advice and tips on being safe and told me to stay off of bp and adultsearch. After I had calmed down and he assured me i was not going to be in any trouble he gave me a big hug (i was crying) and he left.

He said that in maryland that they can go thru the entire act including anything sexual and then bust me. I tried googling it and finding out what maryland laws were but i cant seem to find anything on this.

then he sent me emails asking if i would still see him...personal not business. meaning he wants it free.

Is this something that happens? or did i get dooped by someone pretending to be a cop and just wanting some free on the side? I am compelety freaked out.

I know i need to beon those sites to verify an dif anything this has pushed me to do it quicker.

thansk for any info and sorry for the long post. xoxo

Legal_Beagle2815 reads

OK let’s take this situation step by step.

1.Welcome to the club! As a career, you are learning that it is not an easy one and it would seem you do have a bit to learn.

2.Maryland is perhaps the worst state as you have some really strong enforcement of prostitution laws by gung "ho" troopers. We have discussed your state many times. I would seriously think about moving elsewhere if you want to do this line of work.

3. From your story it would appear that you never asked for payment, although this may not be the case, before so graciously opening your mouth to his naked cock, nor when you acceded to his wish to savor the Greek Island paradise. Therefore, if this guy was a cop, then he had no basis to make an arrest. On the other hand, you should be aware that a pro asks for money before offering her derriere and usually before starting a bbj, however, some pros would rather give a freebee away by not asking for the money then set themselves up for an arrest. In general, if you are servicing a vice officer, you are going to get busted, and if it is a vice he will give you money he will take back later. By requiring payment you will avoid giving it away for free as you are going to be arrested anyway.
NOTE--If this guy is a phony he is subject to charges of impersonating a police officer which under 2010 Maryland PUBLIC SAFETY TITLE 3 - LAW ENFORCEMENT Subtitle 5 - Miscellaneous Provisions Section 3-502 provides that impersonating police officer only amounts to a max two year jail term and a max $2000 fine and is not even deemed a felony. However, each of his separate acts might be added together to increase the severity of the charge and probably would result in termination.

4.Vice cops usually work in teams of two or more and use recording devices to gather evidence. Whether you gave a freebee to a fake cop or a real cop who frequents prostitutes, at this point it does not matter. However, a real cop who does frequent generally pays for the service. Not to pay would bring in criminal charges of abuse of authority etc. The fact that you are now asked to provide free sex leads me to believe this is a fake or at best a corrupt cop. Likewise, a cop usually shows you his ID, he does not hand it to you but shows it, the badge on neck is usually worn when there is a raid. Also cops always carry a gun and will show it to intimidate you at some point, that this did not happen adds to this being a fake. The advice he gave you is what any hobbyist knows. The suggestion to avoid those two Internet sites is valid as they are usually the ones the cops hit first. His comments of “robbery” were probably meant to scare you and set himself up as being more knowledgeable. Maybe some providers in Md. can give us some feedback.

5.What to do now-- You can report this to the real cops who might just love to take down this guy, but doing so would also put you are risk of prosecution. In a case like this, and it is not novel, the cops usually would not bother you. However, you do go on record as an escort and they all will know who you are in the future. You are also at risk from this guy who is obviously a predator. Whether he is a real cop or a fake. You should avoid seeing him or responding to him, and if he does appear and he will, try to get proof of his true identity and ask him to show you his real police i.d., get a photo of him as he comes or goes, get a car license plate. You should however have someone else with you so you are not alone who can take the photo in the parking lot while faking a cell call. If you cannot shake this guy go to the local DA and discuss this, they will usually shield you, investigate him when he shows up at your home and that is the only solution you have unless you want to give this guy freebees for the next thirty years.

6.You might check with providers in your area to see if they know this guy. No doubt he has pulled this with others. As to whether a real cop will do Greek and then arrest you, rarely will this happen. The law permits the vice cop to go as far as necessary to gather evidence and if he goes till cum, the court will often throw the case out. The “cop” had you from the moment you started sucking his cock, provided you had agreed at some point to provide this service for money. He had no need to go to Greece literally to push his point home.

7. You seem like a naïve and very adventurous lady, willing to please and go the extra mile. I am thinking of moving to Maryland and recruiting you into the CIA because we in the department really need some new Mata Hari’s (a famous female spy). Of course the training will cost you ten grand but we can work that out if you sign the student loan papers. JUST KIDDING! About the CIA, but you do seem like a terrific escort and no doubt will you learn the ropes and have an excellent career ahead of you, just be careful out there and make sure you practice safe sex, there is a lot of infection going on with those who slip up or slip off so please be careful. Who could help but not fall in love with a girl like you? But think of getting out of Maryland, it ain’t so merry for escorts.




-- Modified on 11/11/2011 9:57:11 AM

I'm sorry this happened to you.
Are you a member of the providers board?  If not send an email requesting access to that board and post your situation there.  I'm sure you will get much feedback and advice about what to do.  
If you have already posted there or are worried about getting attacked on that board also, please send me a private message directly.
I do not want to discuss this at length on a public board, but there are some things you need to know.
Stop stressing, things will be fine.
Lauren

I had a guy come to see me on DAY 4 of my new career!!!!! I was only in my first week of providing and screened with the "touch me inappropriately" method (I didn't know any better). I had no lady friends in the business so I was just winging it.

He kept leaving the room to use the phone....(I know...save it for some other time people) and came back. Fucked me like crazy. As he was getting dressed, asked questions about me personally, which seemed like harmless chit chat so I answered. As he was leaving, he showed me a badge and gave me the same lines that your guy gave you "you are sooo nice and you have kids" blah blah blah. Said if he paid me he'd have to arrest me, etc. (I didn't ask for $$ up front) I had never seen a badge before so I have no clue if it was real and it was not worth a couple hundred $$ to find out.

It scared the absolute crap out of me. I physically shook for close to an hour. It taught me a very important lesson though, so in retrospect it was a good thing.

Plus!!! He was such a fine piece of ass and very talented in the sack (tall, good looking, early 30's) and it was the best lay I had had that week...lol.

Since this happened, I have posted his description and his number etc on a warning site.

Please contact me to see if it's the same guy.

Take care & be safe :)
Stephanie

NeedInfoplz2384 reads

member and I have tried to read as much as I can on the boards. But I am on my own as well. I do not have anyone else in the business to show me the ropes.

I had exchanged quite a few emails back and forth with him up to 4am. I was board and he seemed like a decent guy. (i was wrong) well not really he was nice but u know what i mean.

I had my price listed on my ad and I also believe I said it in an email I know a major no no. I did not ask him up front for the money. Some of my guys just leave it on the table and we dont discuss it and the others put it down afterwards. I know its another major no no but I havnt had anyone rip me off before. I did have a guy give me 3 counterfiet 20s.

I am just paranoid that if I dont see this guy he will try to start trouble for me. He said he promises he wont, and I did ask him (in email) who he worked for and he said he was uncomfortable giving me that information that he hasnt asked me for my first name yet.  

Thanks for the info and I know i have a long road ahead of me.

ddd41112688 reads

That I am a member on that has over 300-1k working girls that post on. Men are not welcomed and the website MUST verify you before they allow you access to set-up an account. It is NOT a screening service like Room service1K,nor P411 it allows ladies who were. In Porn,BDSM,Escort agency employed and Indie call girls to network. There are even a few retired Street Walkers on there too! You must research and be some what socially to other Pros. Yes there is jealously,back stabbing and cut-throats in this business. Always trust your instincts they will carry you far in life and remember not everyone is your friend in this business. Make money,stay safe,street smart...May god protect you!! D

ex2302 reads

A similar situation happen in the Salt Lake area to MP's.  A guy would go
in and get a massage and then get extras and when it was over
He would tell the girls he wasn't going to arrest them and scare them
and not pay for the extras.  He did it to quite a few and they turned
him in and he got arrested.  He was charged with impersonating an officer.

Sounds like he's trying to get away with taking advantage of providers.
Even if he is a cop he's breaking the law more than you and has more
to lose than you do.  But you need to get the jump on him by reporting him first.

A real bust would never go down that way.

You should break off all contact of course with the person, and further, you should send all his info to all the black list sites so that other gals are not victemized like you, and apparently Stephanie, were.

I hope you screen more carefully in the future so that you can avoid that kind of situation.

I'm so sorry it happened to you.

shudaknownbetter2553 reads

a vice cop would not have had the option of recieving service and then walking away.  A sting, the cop would have been wired & open the door for the rest of the team (right before they slap the braclets on you.)  
So either this is a rogue cop, or a fake.  The badge around the neck is not common off duty.  More in keeping with raids / undercover.  But his actions are in line with fake.  Badges & even fake IDs can be bought.  
I would reverse look up the phone number & see who it belongs to.   If he's looking for free-bees, it seems even more likely he's fake.  Certainly not dumb enough to partake in his own jurisdiction.  I wonder if taking the info to an atty might get this scum busted.  

I am sorry you have to deal with this.
skb

watchForCopHOBBYISTS2031 reads

Maryland is one of the few states where a lot of cops hobby. He was fool to show you his badge like that.

Legal_Beagle3040 reads

However cops who hobby pay for the privilege, no freebees! One of my long time girlfriends used to have a client who was a cop who would show up in his black and white and take forever to get undressed and then dressed. How do I know? I was waiting there until he finally finished, and he paid in cash like every one else and always looked very happy when he left.

-- Modified on 11/11/2011 8:31:00 PM

ddd41112213 reads

I recommend that you re-invent yourself immediately..why? If not this goonie bird will continue to commit these actions against you. He is worse than a BULLY and a BLACKMAILER because he can create so much drama for you. I know your young,need the money but the headache he can trigger? No thanks that's why Incall is for repeat clients who are MARRIED men. Why because at night they need to be at home with the battle ax and the brats. You may need to team up with another girl who can collect your $$$ so you won't have money lying around your hotel room. That will curb a possible robbery and take down from a criminal type targeting Incall escorts. This is the holidays I suspect that a few may happen and I have read of it going on @ My R%dBook.....Police officers will and can do what ever they like. They are protected by a Male brotherhood and they can conceal,deny and hinder arrest of one of their own..

I would be more worried if he was at your house / permanent incall, because then he will know where to find you.  I move around hotels constantly just to make sure that I can't be easily "found."

I'm with the others on this - my guess is that he's a fake trying to get free sessions.  But regardless of whatever the truth is, staying away from him is the best thing to do.  Avoidance will be easier if you're able to not be somewhere he knows to look.

but I was afraid to post thinking I would get flamed.

I do switch around my incall locations. Sometimes the same area but not the same hotel.

I know I was stupid and did many things wrong. YOu are right he did not pay me and he did leave after he scared the shit out of me. I was so shaken up I could barley drive home. I thought for sure I was going to kill someone driving and sobbing at the same time.

I know I sound like a baby. But this sure isnt something I want to explain to my daughters. I try to run a respectable business... maybe that sounds crazy but thats how I look at it.

I have a long long road ahead of me, I am trying to learn from what I read and better myself and try to stay safe.

I am going to stick to my regulars for the next couple weeks and maybe post only on TER. I am too afraid to repost on the other sites.

Thanks for the tips, and the support. It is really appreciated. And sorry I know my spelling sucks :(

Legal_Beagle2196 reads

I am glad some of our wonderful providers have taken an interest--you have nothing to apologize for....
Life is a continual process of learning. With each new step we realize how much there is to learn. Do not feel stupid or lacking, you met up with a practiced con man that knew just what he was doing. You handled yourself very well and walked away from what could have been an unsafe situation. By making this event public you have protected other woman and will have prepared yourself to deal with this type of criminal. The majority of men just want to experience a pleasant sexual experience, nothing more. They are happy to pay for the service and only request confidentiality for their own protection. You had the misfortune to run into a bad apple at the beginning of your career. Let’s hope the future is brighter. I wish I could throw my arms around you and comfort you but I am just an attorney on a computer, let’s hope some one you care about can do that.

ddd41111657 reads

I encourage you to read every blog out here and website from every call girl,madam or pimp that you can score from online. There are many of us who would school you to the bank in riches of advice. Stay safe..

I was going to post the information on here, but it does contain some personal info I'm not comfortable posting.  I had a similar situation with him, although he never touched me or tried to get anything for free.  If anyone wants more information please send me an PM or email.

WTF!!!!!2597 reads

I bet he didn't pay for your services and just walked out after scaring you to death.
This kind of scam has been going around for a while and he can - and should - go to jail for it, is a felony to impersonate a cop.
If I was you, I would get his full name, cell number, etc and report hiss ass in an anon way to the local police.
Stay away from this guy! no freebies or meet with him of the clock. He's up to no good.

shudaknownbetter2580 reads

but that's with civies.  Too many to list.  
I agree Cops who hobby pay...  they are concerned with the ability to play & not be excluded because of their occupation.  
What we are discussing is abuse of office, blackmail, impersonating an officer, etc.  I don't suppose there's any way to get his plate number.  Does LE in your area have an annonymous tip line?  

Treat this as a stalker...  Move your location.  Step up your screening.  View the cars (from your window) before admitted a guest (record plate number)...  digital cameras have amazing resolution.  

Best wishes,
skb

http://www.sextraffickingvictims.org/forum/victim-testimonials/40/

the title of the posts include the state, the date she was busted,  and how many parts of the 4-part survey the girl filled out.

ddd41112187 reads

Did you observe the shield carefully or did he just hide part of it to scam you? Lady lady I have heard of fake cops(enlisted in the police academy and were denied),security guards with access to badges, and a family member holding to a retired cop relatives shield to increase street cred. If I were you I would notify Internal Affairs from a pre=paid phone. Then tell them that you were being shaken down by a cop. Don't give em your name,race,age,address. Just tell em that you have a hot tip...if I were you? Change your number,distroy that email address,name that you use for business. Hopefully it may have been a creep looking for free puss n boots! If not go UTR for a spell if not there is nothing worse than a scumbag cop!

shudaknownbetter1839 reads

You have survived a traumatic experience you were not equipped to deal with.  But YOU SURVIVED it!  You have learned & will become stronger.  Very few among us on either side of this business would have faired better & it's much easier to know and say how to handle the situation than it is to put it into practice.  Unless someone HAS actually been there, they have no right to criticize you.  

The vast majority of clients are well meaning gentlemen who will treat you with kindness & respect.  I am one & frankly I hate when a gentle lady is taken unfair advantage of.  

Yes, this guy was a practiced con-man, had probably done it before.   You didn't stand a chance against him.  Again, you handled it the best you could, came out safe, survived it.  That is a victory.

I thank you for sharing this.  By posting this, you help not only yourself but also untold others who will be better prepared to deal with such scams.  
skb  

Jack Daniels2031 reads

If a cop uses his authority to obtain sex it is rape.  The same goes for someone who is impersonating a cop. The sex can be consensual and it is still rape.

There was a case in Los Angeles where a cop stopped a woman who had been drinking.  Instead of arresting her, the cop let her go and arranged to meet her after he got off work.  He met her at her apartment and they ended up having consensual sex. The woman had some other emotional problems and mentioned the incident to her therapist.  The therapist reported the incident to the police.  The cop was arrested for rape.  He was convicted and sent to prison for a sentence of 15 years to life.  This occurred in California and I realize the laws are not the same in every state.  However, I am sure there is a similar law in Maryland.  The reason the law is harsher for a public official acting under the color of authority is because of the damage such an act does to the confidence the public has in the police.

CAL. PEN. CODE § 261 : California Code - Section 261 (7)

(7) Where the act is accomplished against the victim's will by threatening to use the authority of a public official to incarcerate, arrest, or deport the victim or another, and the victim has a reasonable belief that the perpetrator is a public official. As used in this paragraph, "public official" means a person employed by a governmental agency who has the authority, as part of that position, to incarcerate, arrest, or deport another. The perpetrator does not actually have to be a public official.

Link to the complete Penal Code Section:
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/9/1/s261

shudaknownbetter2682 reads

My Fav ladies do not require the donation up front.  They would rather risk a runner (client who takes off with out making the donation) than run the increased of collecting the donation soon upon entrance.  In one case there was a fee for massge (w/HE)...  Tips were expected for Extras, this was understood & not an upsell.  After the action was completed & she still would not give a hint of a fee on the extras.  
I have become comfortable with a handful of Fav ladies...  I have the donation separate upon arrival.  No envolupe, I use a paper clip to keep it together in my key pocket.  When we undress in her bedroom, I use a corner of her dresser to collect my pocket junk like I do at home.  (It's very nice if she has a chair there to accept my clothes.)  The donation goes on the dresser too.  When I refill my pockets while dressing, the donation is silently left behind.  In the back & forth of dressing, using bathroom, the donation will invisibilily disappear.  It is discreet.  It aids the GF illusion.  
skb

I have to add my 2cents because this is disturbing.
#1 - Your website should say that you require your donation in an envelope marked "tickets", "toys", "loan payment", "school clothes", something along those lines. It also should say it should be placed on a table, on the bed, somewhere upon entering the room. Once that is done you pick it up, excuse yourself to the bathroom for a moment and check to see if the donation is actually in the envelope. It doesn't matter if I've seen someone 10 times, those are my rules and either do it or don't see me.
#2 - You insist you require your gentlemen to get more comfortable. Each piece of clothing they take off you will reciprocate with the same. If a client refuses to do so then that is the end of session and you ask them to leave. Basically get up, open the door, and tell them they have to go.
#3 - Never, never, have unprotected sex of any kind! BBBJ is unprotected and if you have children you could spread something to them. Yes, you kiss your children, right ? Think.
#4 - Cops hobby and I have seen many. They will show you their badge only to let you know that they are a cop and that you can count on them if you ever have trouble. No questions asked. They won't try to scare you either.
#5 - You need a buddy. A seasoned provider who will mentor you and keep you safe. All you have to do is ask and there are many that will help you. We are people too and we don't want to see any other provider harmed.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Working in the business for over 10 years myself and never any problems.

Myself, being a seasoned provider and working for a large agency that sends girls worldwide and also has its own staff of attorneys and accountants I would say the directions my madame gave me would stand up in court. She would have never given us these rules to follow if there wasn't a good reason for them. You don't have to agree and that is your choice.  I follow the same rules now that she taught me and feel safer than most could even imagine.

ddd41113257 reads

Police officer's I know plenty about those MoFo's more so than the average White person does!! I know of many and may I say many of Call Girl,Madame,Escort/Escort Agency/Loan Shark/Gangster that will school you to the fact that you have NO value to them what so ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If a Street Walker is killed by her pimp,john/trick or robbed just maybe a nice detective with a HEART. Will care to open and investigate her case like that of the past infamous serial killer's who have killed,beheaded or butchered remains dating back to the 1970's. The GREEN RIVER Killer,Sunset Strip Killers,Hillside Strangler's,Richard Riftkin,The Grim Sleeper,Richard Shawcross all of these men and more killed Street walker's,some Escorts who worked Indy. I have watched plenty documentaries with DA's,State police,local police squads in interviews. They bash women who use their bodies to derive income from. We are considered WORTHLESS, no value to society and Filthy for ever being paid for a sexual act. Not all law enforcement officer's share the same views. They lookout for their own kind and yes there is discrimination amongst White,Negro,Latino,Asian,Homosexual/Lesbian officer's. I don't give a dam if you are charging 25,100,200,500,1k,3k, or higher you are still a BLACK-EYE on civilized society and a disruption to family values. So next time you kiss Officer Friendly's ....just remember your just another notch on his way up to Detective Sgt or Capt..I respect them for putting their lives on the line. But abuse of Authority hell Naw....

ddd41112357 reads

Any man or woman that abuses their position in Local,County,City,State,Federal gov't just for kick's that relate to their teenage years. As a way to humiliate,mentally torture or shame publicly to prevent prosecution of their self or co worker. Then your dam right I have no kind words for them. There have been up standing officer's with families who lost their lives to shootings,auto collisions or untimely passing. Those people were just doing a job but any law enforcement official who engaged in sex with a Call Girl/Street Walker/Stripper/Massage girl to further their own selfish endeavor's then that SOB deserves to be tossed out of LE. The same thing goes for a LE who falsify documents,commit perjury or abuse of authority to entrap adult provider's when there is very little to arrest. There have been hundred's of thousands of Street walkers,Escorts working for local agencies,stripper's in raids at topless/nude clubs,Indy call girl's and Massage girls arrested/charged then begged to become informants. Then on documents that the courts,DA,Sgt's are aware that this person is a convicted criminal who was seduced into becoming a filthy snitch. That's if the client/john fears being outed by the local press and 6pm news station. The girl gets written up in the local newspaper,treated like she tried to kill Obama and a laughing stock all over her little town. Not to mention if she has kid's then her kid's can be removed or threaten by an over zealous COP..The only pig I like is in my skillet for breakfast....

shudaknownbetter2571 reads

The shades are drawn, the door is locked.  If either one is LE the other one is in trouble.   I even doubt if terminating the activities & showing the other out would help.  The "secret" is to not letting LE into the room in the first place.  HOw to keep that from happening is as much art as science...  and about a 6th sense.  Newbies (in either role) may take some time to devolupe that sense.   In reading through the Bust Reports...  in all cases the Cop explained away "being nervious", etc.  

Best Wishes,
skb

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