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Agency bust?
reasontoworry 4816 reads
posted
1 / 9

so I used an agency incall a couple months ago that is reportedly getting heat from LE currently.  I used a traceable phone to make the calls and am now wondering if I have reason to worry if the agency gets busted.  I was required to show id to the provider, pretty sure she probably couldn't read it as english isn't her first language. I don't live in the city the agency is located in but a neighboring state. Pretty sure prosecution is remote but what about just getting a visit from LE or my info being on a client list being published / released somewhere?  I'm not high profile at all(not by a long shot) but do have something to lose.  In any event, lesson learned, not using agencies anymore.  Any help would be appreciated.

Legal_Beagle 3134 reads
posted
2 / 9

Sad to say but you probably are already on the agency list with the date, time, phone number and your name and I imagine it was you real name as you apparently confirmed it with a driver's license. The good news is that the provider probably will never be called to identify and unless you were a phenomenally outstanding sex partner, she probably does not even remember who you are... Each state and locality have their own ideas about publishing clients list as a form of punishment or embarrassment for citizen who are upstanding or what ever their pleasure. If you are able to inquire or have seen similiar lists in your area then you can figure out if you have a chance to be listed. Arizona is one state that does but is not the only one. Always best to have an unlisted phone and better yet a phone care if you don't want to be traceable.
  As you are in a neighboring state you might be eligible for federal prosecution because you are involved with an interstate violation, but I would doubt that you have reason to worry on that count.
  Have you ever heard of the Mann Act; also know as the White Slavery Act? I will list some information on it when I have the time, but in brief it was a federal law enacted in 1910 to prohibit movement of prostitutes from state to state, however because of its ambiguous language it has been used for all sort of purposes by law enforcement to threaten or coerce defendants. That is why you don’t want to take your provider on a vacation to another state!
  Anyway in the meantime you might consider changing you phone number, growing a beard and taking an extended trip abroad but not with that same broad….just kidding, with a little bit of luck, or if as the song goes, from “My Fair Lady”
“The gentle sex was made for man to marry,
To share his nest and see his food is cooked.
The gentle sex was made for man to marry-but
With a little bit of luck, With a little bit of luck,
You can have it all and not get hooked.” Or pinched for that matter….


-- Modified on 4/21/2010 5:15:12 AM

-- Modified on 4/21/2010 5:18:57 AM

marikod 1 Reviews 3242 reads
posted
3 / 9

he picked up the phone to call the agency, or used the internet to send emails or used any other interstate facility to further state law prostitution.

       The Mann Act is no longer the problem in the Internet Age - the Travel Act is the one they get you if they really want to. And there is really no defense to that one.


   But the good news is that there is safety in numbers and, unless you have bad luck to use an agency under federal investigation for money laundering or racketeering, and they really need you to make the case against the really bad guys, you are very unlikely to be prosecuted.

      Indeed, the US attorney declined to prosecute Mr. Spitzer for either Travel Act or Mann Act violations once he determined no public funds had been used and indicated that his officer's policy was not to prosecute for pure sex offense misdemeanors.




mrfisher 115 Reviews 3166 reads
posted
4 / 9

In all the discussions on here of agency busts, I'm yet to hear of any client getting arrested because his name was found on an agency list.  (Remember, in the case of Spitzer, they declined to prosecute.)

If I recall correctly, some real lawyers who contribute to this board have stated that an arrest can only occur for an misdeameanor when you are caught in the act by LE; thus the need for their elaborate set ups in hotel rooms, etc.

The real worry might be that LE will contact you or even your SO to throw a scare into you.  I have heard of this occuring and I am willing to bet that it has contributed to more than a few divorces.

I can tell you from bitter experience that a divorce is far more costly than a misdeameanor rap.

(still not a lawyer)

reasontoworry 3698 reads
posted
5 / 9

Thanks for the info, I'm pretty sure the provider didn't take down any info as she looked at it for all of 2 seconds, but who knows?  

This happened in the Chicago area for what it's worth.  For the reasons mr fisher stated I'm not too worried about prosecution but more so the SO, job and long term consequences. The so I can deal with (just a massage?, it's worked before...kinda), if not, life goes on. I doubt the job would find out, like I said it's in a neighboring state and I don't see how they could have any info other than what I gave them, alias and ph number.

I guess I'll just have to wait and see, would love not to lose sleep over it though.

mrfrench 3477 reads
posted
6 / 9

A few random comments:

1.  Escorting is not illegal.  Prostitution is.  Just because you appear on an escort agency's list IS NOT EVIDENCE of prostitution.

2.  I recall a case, but can't locate it now, where the client list of an agency was published and the city was sued and lost.  The reason: see #1 above.  The fact that there was no evidence that the plaintiff engaged in prostitution, and no evidence that he committed a crime, was considered sufficient evidence that he was defamed when his name was linked with prostitution engaged in by providers with that agency.  As far as I know, they no longer print the names of agency clients unless they catch you in the act for that reason.

3. If the police ever contact you to question you, be polite but don't comment - don't answer their questions.  My rule of thumb is to give my name and my address and nothing more.  What I've used in the past: "My name is ____.  I live at ____.  I have committed no crime that I am aware of and respectfully decline to answer any and all questions.  I further request that if you have evidence that I have committed a crime that I be formally charged immediately and, if you have no such evidence, that I be immediately released."  I just kept repeating that every time they asked me a question.  After about 4 or 5 questions they let me go and I never heard from them again.

On a side note:  a very famous New York agency was busted some years back.  I used them a lot.  The police never contacted me but the agency did and asked me to testify in their behalf.  Yeah, right.  Like that was going to happen... :-)

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and my comments should not be construed as giving legal advice.  Contact a local attorney who would be better able to advise you on local law.

-- Modified on 4/21/2010 5:00:19 PM

hoosiermulefan 4568 reads
posted
7 / 9

I'm gonna go ahead and hang my hat on this one. Thanks for the info, if I get federally prosecuted under The Mann or Travel Act because I live in one state, was visiting another state and called an agency there, then so be it. I find it hard to believe that is going to happen, but anything is possible I guess.

-- Modified on 4/21/2010 4:42:26 PM

Legal_Beagle 3336 reads
posted
8 / 9

some states, such as Arizona, will release a copy of an agency "date book" to the press who will release it to the public and if you had a foto shoot with a model, a happy ending from a massage or shot a load in someones face, the public and you wife and friends are going to assume you were a bad fella. A friend tried to do that all the way to the divorce court....

JennaPurrLatte See my TER Reviews 3481 reads
posted
9 / 9

it'll be the alias that gets published, if they decide to publish the client list.

i think it's odd you gave the phone operator an alias and the escort your driver license and the escort didn't ask you about the discrepancy between the name given on the phone and the one on your license.

or i misunderstood the situation.

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