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A caveat to my prior post
ThePeopleRule 7197 reads
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While most PDs may not have the time to "invest" in a "dinner date" there are some low crime rate-high income communities that may.  Several cities in Orange County CA, such as Irvine, apparently have such a low crime rate that the police have "time on their hands".

I added this to a post below, but got no response, what do you think? Any feedback would be appreciated.

If I were going to meet someone new at a hotel. I would ask to meet at a local bar nearby first, and have a drink or two and maybe something to eat.
I would take some time to get to know each other, and wait to be invited to go to his room. What are the chances of LE taking the time and effort?
Also, would him buying me drinks in a bar before going on with the evening play into the circumstances if an arrest were to happen?

Thanks

Hugh Janockers8086 reads

What if you chose the place. --> You should be safe.  (E.g. The police could not pre-stake out the place do set up the equipment, or just the back up cops they need for a safe bust).  
What if you met at the bar.  --> Hat wastes a lot of police time which they don't like to do and it looks very bad to have a criminal dining and drinking with a law enforcement officer.
What if you took time to chat and get friendly.  --> same thing, cops don't have time to make friends with this type of bust.  Think of traffic cops.  It is a mill. One after another.  They want a room set up so Johns can come in every 30 minutes to get busted.
What if you just set up an incall location?  --> you control the environment, even if at a hotel, and cops don't like to be alone with criminals, even naked female perps!!!

I agree with your first point. LE is probably not going to take the time to wine you and dine you just for a bust.
As for the second point, it wouldn't matter if you had dinner, went dancing, saw a movie and then spent half the night looking at old vacation photos before you did the deed. Once you accept the money you are subject to arrest.

but I suspect a large number of hobbyists would prefer not to for reasons ranging from time (and whether or not it's on the clock or not) as well as just prefering the more typical wham, bam, thank you maam type of encounters.

Try it out on new clients and let us know how it goes.

Lisa,
Would this drink time be on the clock or off?  Many hobbyists cannot afford the extra $$$ you might ask for to have a pre-date meeting.  If it was off the clock, I would have no problem with meeting you like that.

Like was said above, I think it unlikely LE would go to this trouble to set you up, just to bust one provider.

Swim

ThePeopleRule7893 reads

A mature provider advertises a $300 session for three hours, the first two of which are at a restaurant or similar location.  The reviews confirm that is her procedure.  However, she has a full-time job and is not relying only on her providing income.  

It is reasonable to assume that LE may be unlikely to invest two hours in a pre-session during which the lady might ask enough pointed questions to become uncomfortable and cancel the "date".

ThePeopleRule7198 reads

While most PDs may not have the time to "invest" in a "dinner date" there are some low crime rate-high income communities that may.  Several cities in Orange County CA, such as Irvine, apparently have such a low crime rate that the police have "time on their hands".

I have found this to be a very good way to meet someone new. I feel much safer after a meet and greet. I like to meet with a more mature gentleman and I think that they like the time to get to know each other too. Time is usually shared.

AnonDoc5362 reads

Am I the only one who does not enjoy being intimate on a full stomach?

I agree, but get something very light and maybe a drink Anon. The whole point is to meet and check each other out and get a feeling. Also, would the fact that drinking was done before moving on make a difference if LE became involved?

RJ998460 reads

I far prefer to meet this way first for both LE reasons and also just to get to know a girl first. I even prefer to just meet for drinks first at a location convenient to the girl. No sex that evening at all and NO DISCUSSION of money. But I'm not willing to pay $200 or $300 to buy a girl a couple drinks and get to know her. So usually, it is the ecconomics that prevent this type of situation from working.

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