Hello,

I have used it in the past. Yes, it's completely legit.

The profiles have links to their reviews.  And if you click on the link and read some of their reviews, they are less than stellar.  Even some "not the girl in the photos reviews."  Hard pass.  

Huh? The question was whether it's legit or not.

The first question was whether anyone has used them?  The second question was whether they are legit?

Fair enough,I don't know much past kgirl orgs and storefront amps in LV. Well, knew couple of indies who quit after fosta.  

You’re exactly correct. VAC=Hobby Shop. Name changed +/-3 years ago. They’ve always had the best talent in Vegas, including some nationally known touring ladies. I will say that since COVID hit their talent level seems to have dropped a little, but still very good and a very safe location. The monger buzz here in Vegas seems to be shifting to CLL, but they’re a bbfs agency and that’s not my cup of tea. I’ve been to VAC 10+ times and have never been offered bbfs. When the top tier ladies return I’ll be back there.

Every lady I’ve seen there has been a match to her photos. I’ve seen 10 different ladies there. Always matched the pictures and service was always 8 and higher. I was last there in March 2020 when I saw Quinn who was awesome.

Yes VAC like some other agencies sometimes touches up the pics (whether for privacy or other reasons you can speculate)
Notwithstanding it's a place where you can find some of the hottest K-girls on the planet.. not every time but you have pretty good odds of a good experience.

Vegas.  They were formerly the hobby shop before FOSTA/SESTA.  Been a customer over 5 years.  They also offer outcall to major hotels for an upcharge. If you don't have refs, it might be an easier way to get started with them.  

Maybe we just have different standards.  I wish that I could get some of that Kool-Aid and drink it too.  Most of the ladies for that agency tend to be in the 7-8 range for appearance and performance.  Anna TER 350971 is currently available:  7.33/7/3 (Appearance, Performance, Chemistry).  Previously, there was Diva TER 350428:  8.1/7.9/3.8.  Seems consistent with my experience - mediocre to average.  Clublovelinelv was decent.  I don't limit myself to Korean ladies.  

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That's completely fair. Some kgirl lovers definitely drink a lot of kool-aid, and I have no doubts your evaluation is correct. Moreso, I applaud the honesty and being a straight shooter.  

BBFS girls.  Even though it takes absolutely no skills to remove a condom, the BBFS hounds that see them tend to score them higher merely for the fact that they can get BBFS.  These girls are often the ones that can't compete at the usual skill level of CFS girls, so they just add PSE to their menu and their scores suddenly go up.  Go figure.

Also, if one follows the CLL ladies’ reviews they appear to be consistently from the same group of guys who also seem to only, or mostly, see CLL ladies. Every time a new CLL lady debuts her first review seems to be from the same guy, and they’re always high marks. Not saying that they’re shills, but seems suspicious to me.

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I don't think the skill statement is true,regardless of org.

Rocket goes after.  Some few reviewers make it look like the fix is in.  If he wants to put them out of business, he has my blessing.  

Do you give me your blessing for all orgs that engage in such review behavior or just this one( which you clearly don't use) ? Just wondering.

on what others have added, but also my  own PERSONAL experience leaves no doubts in my mind that this is your kind of target.  If you tell me of others you want to go after, I may be skeptical until I see the evidence, but that's only fair to all concerned.

The USASexGuide Board just deleted a bunch of CLL reviews as being shill and sham posts. The CLL shills went so far as to post identical reviews for a girl under different alias names. Admin called them out, put "Shill for CLL" in their header, and deleted their posts. Admin threatened further punitive action if CLL continues to post shill reviews. Hopefully TER Admin will do the same. Maybe Rocketman can get on this?

this is welcome news.  Kudo's for posting it.  I'm going to PM you about something.  Hope you have VIP.

I will echo what cdl has said. Thanks for the info.  

While I've never been to CLL because I avoid bbfs with high volume providers (maybe occasionally with a SB), I have seen positive reviews from TER members who I respect so I know the org is for real and provides good service. There's simply no need for the shill reviews posted both here and on USASG (and probably on other sites as CLL ladies now also advertise on the Donkey and AL). Seems likely to me that their big 2020 price increase from $300 to $380 may have slowed CLL's business, and they think by multiplying good reviews through shills will drive up interest. That's a bad practice, and as I said in my original post we can only hope that TER Admin will also identify and remove CLL's shill reviews. They're not hard to identify. If one pays attention every time CLL debuts a new lady the same guy is the first or occasionally the second reviewer. And, there are 2 or 3 others who also seem to only review CLL ladies. Given Vegas' long history of quality KGirls at VAC and GFLV/DW it's highly suspicious that a reviewer would only visit CLL ladies and ignore the better orgs. That's my $0.02.

I took a very brief look, and there's at least one shill/org guy for them here. Name is a car brand plus a number. That one is clear. I have little doubt because his reviews read like ads. Which they are.

There’s another one that starts with HM who seems to be the first or second person to review every new girl that starts there. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. Reviews are very similar.

I sent you a pm. I'm probably not looking hard enough or just being stupid, but I can't find an account starting with "hm" that would review cll girls.

I replied.

I've used them 3 times in the past, though not in the last year.  I always had a very good experience, and would go back in a minute.  Never had bbfs, but have always enjoyed bbbjtc in the past.

Holy cow,
Is there a translation button.  This chain is like alphabet soup!

Nice guy. I'm not into the Asian scene in Vegas but I called about "something" and the guy was very nice...seemed cool.
But, to the guys who are into the this scene for play, it seems like their might be a "Turf War" going on between CLL vs VA...I dunno, but it's a vibe I got...anyone care to share??

so take this for what it's worth -- pure speculation. I would be surprised it is a turf war thing but might be about semantics. Suspect it is more starving and fighting over the crumbs, as I suspect LV is, relatively speaking, something of a ghost town still.