I dont know what's worse ; the older providers peddling their bodies or the morons who actually pay them $400+ for service. Sure that's what i want... mary o malley or Elaina or God forbid the ancient Steevie to service me. Yeah a 50+ yr old woman who passes herself off for "35." hah! what a joke!!!
Then they want $400/hr.  but  BUT  a date of 90mins  at $600 is "preferred." Are these broads going to peddle themselves when they are in a wheelchair?  Christ guys....do yourselves a favor. Hop on a plane and head for SJ  COSTA RICA. There you can find a pretty,clean 19yr old college student who will suck & fuck you like no tomorrow....all for $100/night.Eat cheap,sleep cheap,and screw with the most bang for ur buck. None of this "90 minutes preferred date" for $600!!!!!

I prefer my companionship from a younger woman as well, but you are just rude.  If you don't care to keep company with them, don't, but you needn't be an ass.

Whats worse the moron who spends a day flying to and then from Costa Rica and looses two days work while paying airline fair to save maybe a few bucks overall or the cheap SOB who likes 19 years olds simply becuase they look good (but can't screw worth a damn)? Also be prepared for the extent of their English to be "Me love you long time".

But then again there is all that great nightlife in Costa Rica with all the top line entertainers, shows, first class restaurants, and gambling right?

To each his own ..... which is why this board allows you to post ... Since I have seen 2 out of the 3 more than once, as always beauty, intelligence, poise, humor, grace, and most of all maturity are in the eye of the beholder... sorry but for me a 19 year old suck and fuck hottie doesn't hold a candle to these incredible ladies.... as always you have your HO and I have MHO ... hobby safe hobby well hobby all you can be

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I agree with spinner. Older Ladies have much more Class and  knowledge of how to please a Man . They are warm,sensitive,affectionate ,and are really great compaions. So you younger guys can have the 19 year old Bimbos. But be carefull,and watch out for the Cash and Dash! The Older ladies are much more reliable .See you soon DJ !

That's your preference. Don't downgrade the gents who want to see us or those of us who offer the service. Someone like you will never understand why we ARE in demand.

Anneke

Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.
I was just wondering...do you always feel compelled to make such idiotic statements or did your dick get caught in a zipper today?

"Also be prepared for the extent of their English to be "Me love you long time"

LOL........hey there Nikki.......Anneke, can't wait to make your acquaintance. MfSD>>>>

It's not Vegas, but it's not a bad vacation destination.

Air fare is comparable and sometimes cheaper to many flights within the Continental US.

Many Ticas (Costa Rica for local) speak English as a second language. Many of the higher priced providers speak excellent English (and many are not 19 yrs old who might not screw worth a damn).

Many of them unfortunately started at a very young age (as early as 9). Also, most of the sex trade in Costa Rica evolves around child prostitution - and rude tightwads like Dreamer42 looking for bargains.

To paraphase Spinner, what floats your boat may not float mine.

But not worry, in the words of Jack the Talking Clown, by morning you will be sooooooooo moderated.

Dude, all the women have a right to vend their punani here if they're in good standing. It's not for you nor I to judge if it's time for them to give up the gig. As for the fee, it's the fee plain and simple. What I (and you should too) find offensive is the hate which is propagated on the other board by those who are playing a much larger political game. They have neither your interest nor the ladies' interest in mind; it's all about them. But enough of that for now...

Oh yeah, CR is really overrated IMHO. Know all about the Blue Lagoon. Dickie Doo-ville. Try Rio, BA, Caracas, SP.

You haven't gotten any in a long long time.  I have spent time with and/or have exchanged emails with some of the ladies you mentioned.  They are all absolutely wonderful ladies, with a great outlook on life, and fun to be with.  They have experienced what life is all about.  Not like some 19 year old student who just no clue what life is all about, let alone what the hobby is all about or what a GFE experience is.

As far as seeing who we want to see and for how long, that is and will always be our choice.  No one is twisting our arm or forcing us to see any of the ladies.  We willing got involved in this hobby and the choice is ours.  You are certainly entitled to your opinion because that is what America is all about.  But you should express your opinions without directing them towards anyone specific.


I'm not sure why you decided to direct your comments to these ladies, but hopefully today you will wake up in a better mood.  Remember, if you have nothing to say good about a person, then say nothing.  Give respect, get respect.


Ken

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Nikki~  You are right-on, once again.  Succinct, humorous, always topical--you have once again brought a smile to my face.  Thanks!

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It just surprises me the lack of respect from you. I am not sure what you consider as an older woman. There are woman that are in there 30's and 40's who look 10 yrs. youger. I personally know Mary O'Malley, she is one of the most intelligent and classy ladies in Las Vegas.Her reputation shows that completly.
Have you even see some of these woman that you speak ill of?
Don't knock age. Why do you think younger men love older woman. We are so much more experienced and we care about who we see and truely want to meet there needs and wants.  Most young girls are in it for the money and not for the satisfaction of pleasing a man or even trying to understand them.
I think that you are cheap and just want a quickie. Well if that is what you like then please by all means keep doing what you are doing. But don't put down our ladies in Vegas. We are some of the top in the country.
Ladies weather you are 25yrs.old or 65yrs.young it is all about how you take care of yourself and how you feel inside.
Be careful and Happy Holidays to all.
This should be a time for telling the ones we like or love how much they mean to us.
I luv you all,
Kisses and Hugs,
January Class

And I'll bet you're an escort's dream.  Probably ugly, dirty, stupid, cheap, and definitely rude.

You would benefit from learning to be a little more tolerant of other's likes and dislikes.  Why should you even care what someone else does or doesn't do?  The moron is the person you see when you look in a mirror.

I am 21 years old and far away from being a bimbo. I disagree that just because someone is young they don't know or aren't worth a damn. Also English is my third language but I am a well traveled and intelligent woman not a little girl. Everyone has their own value and just because a guy prefer older providers they don't need to downgrade the young ones. Same thing with the guy that likes young providers they don't need to be rude. There's a market for everyone.

I am glad you like Costa Rica, and have found your slice of heaven, BUT why "Rain" on someone else's parade and throw mud at the participants?

The one thing you learn in this business is..........You are not everyone's cup of tea.  I do not personally know the other 2 ladies you mentioned, but I do know Mary O'Malley (she IS in her 30's).    

Mary is a beautiful, articulate, highly educated, kind-hearted person.  A good friend and a good person............the type who would never POST something RUDE about anyone.

Happy Holidays to all!!

You look good to me, hon.

If you do the math, you'd realize, the women here are actually asking for no more than the Costa Rica girls!
    If the average monthly income there is $300, and you're paying $100 per night.....then using a realistic income for a successful American woman, the high-end LV providers are charging the same or less, relatively speaking.

    I would also suggest that you are missing out on a wonderful sector of interesting and entertaining gals by discounting older providers.  Of course, none here would even think of having you now, anyway!  And, probably many of the younger ones as well.

    You have a right to your opinion, and it sounds like you have found what you wanted, but...that rude post, including names, should,..IMHO,..get you banned from this board!.......this hobby is about fun, not bashing others!  Especially these special women who take many risks for our pleasure!

Are you guys nutz 400 an hour. When I was in there. I stay at the luxor. I found girls all day long there for 150 an hour full service. Young and hot. Lets face it price need to come down. Some pic should be consider theft by deception. Us providers are greedy. They should train in the middle east. They would be much better providers.Hey do you  know of any wheelchair providers that sounds hot!!

Sounds hot! tata sin is for sinners

Maybe you will even be lucky to get the ... "my mommy she virgin" approach

It must be difficult to live in this guy's skin.  Clearly low on funds and needing the constant ego stroke being with an 18-year-old apparently provides this guy.

I think I'll make it a point to try to see all three of these ladies as sort of a personal tribute to this dumbshit...won't be the first time with the wonderful Steevie!!

Jacksonlips

I've noted many times in the past (most recently yesterday) that performance levels are higher elsewhere at a fraction of the cost. Which begs the question as to how much a year being a provider should be worth. The Holy Grail of providerdom is, of course, finding a sugar daddy, but only a select minority find or desire one.

The demographics of TER favour those who seek mature providers and those ladies usually come at a premium. I am not sure why this is, but to a large extent, the fee isn't about how beautiful or how great a performer the provider is but about the relative wealth of the client. As men age, they are looking more for the right connection rather than a balls-out wall to wall monster fuck experience.

Going to Germany or South America or Thailand is a different deal than hooking up with an escort here, for reasons discussed exhaustively previously. It's really not a fair comparison. Myself personally, I'd just as soon travel, and I can, but I have no problem with a reasonable fee ($300-$400 for one hour) locally.  

The big problem with Dreamer's message is, of course, it's disrespectful. There's really no need for such venting. While I understand the sentiment, I'd much rather give the benefit of the doubt to the provider. She's running a business, plain and simple. The fee quoted is the fee quoted, nothing more, nothing less, and it's nothing to get emotional about. While we've had the occasional meltdown here previously, and , many women here have guys behind them, more so than in other burgs, the ladies who advertise here are for the most part reputable and honourable, two qualities which any client should find paramount.

is this has been my best yr yet.. and I`m probably the oldest..  and Proud of it>> LOL >>>>and THANK GOD FOR COSTA RICA... !!!

about whether I should reply to what Dreamer had to say.  After all, I am one of the ladies who was personally attacked in his post.  I had to consider if what I wanted to say was merely self-defense or whether I had anything constructive to add to this conversation.  I think that I do have something constructive to add.

First, let me say, to all of those who have defended mature providers, and especially to those who came to my personal defense, I really appreciate your views and hearing what you had to say.  Most of you know that the ladies that defended me are my friends..... and now you know why they are.  I care for them very much and I appreciate knowing that they care about me.

Are my feelings hurt by what Dreamer had to say?  Of course they are!  I'm a human being....and I have a fragile ego.  No one wants to hear that they are worthless or, as Dreamer posted above, "used up".  I know that I'm not 19 anymore.  I don't pretend to be.  But my age does not discount my worth as a human being.  But then, perhaps, Dreamer doesn't think of providers as human beings....

To Dreamer, I have this very special message......

Did you know that men reach their sexual prime during their late teens and early twenties while women do not reach their sexual prime until they are in their 40's?  What is the biggest sex organ in the body?  Well, honey, it's not what you have caught in your zipper (thanks, Nikki.... got a big kick out of that!).  It's your brain.  You can't understand what gentlemen would see in an older provider...... They have come to understand that, while a more mature provider doesn't necessarily give you a balls to the wall banging, we do provide the most erotic experiences that you will ever have.  Why?  Because we are approaching our sexual prime....that time when women become much more adventerous and erotic.  We have learned what only time can teach.....how to tease a man's brain, to lend intrigue and anticipation, and to do it all with grace, dignity, and poise; knowing that each moment, each word, each look, each caress, arouses and excites until that final peak moment.  Then the fun really begins.

For those providers that are younger, please don't take offense.  I mean none.  You are in your physical primes and provide youth, vigor, and energy.  Nor am I making insults on your intelligence.  I only mean to show that more mature providers give a very diffent and unique type of eroticism to the experience.  Every man has, in his mind, an idea of what turns him on..... to each his own.  That's why there are providers that range from 18 to ? age, and we call come in different sizes, shapes, and ethnicity.  Some of us are blonde, some brunette, and some redheads.  That way each gent can find what pleases him best.

Dreamer, I don't know what I've done or said that made you want to attack me personally.  If you don't want to see a mature provider, then don't.  If you are really interested in finding out what some gents see in an older provider, then find a way to ask without being disrespectful to anyone.  What could you possibly gain by singling me and any other provider out for public ridicule? Or do you just get your jollies by intentionally hurting other people?

And for the record....I'm not 50....shoot, I'm not even 40 yet....

well Dreamer enjoy it - here is your 15 minutes of fame - or is that infamy?  Next time try not to do it at the expense of others.  You're entitled to your opinion, but you don't need to be rude or forget about the feelings of others.

Merry Christmas everyone!

I would agree 100 percent. If you don't have the experience with someone how can you make any kind of jugement at all. I think dreamer is just way of base on this one and he is being rude to the ladies he doesn't even know. I do not know any of the women that dreamer is talking about, but LJ is in that group as well and hell she has a body better then most 20 year olds. Plus a life experience to share....That's my .02 cents worth.

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Mary, that was a very polite and thoughtful reply, much more polite than is deserved.
I, for one, am very much looking forward to seeing you in February, and am very aware of the benefits of spending time with ladies of experience...ie Brie and Angelina.
Rest assured, I'll be in touch to make arrangements.
Thank you for being the gracious soul that you are, and I think you will agree that those that matter appreciate your grace and honesty.
See you soon!

I have experienced 20 something, 30 something and 40 something ladies, and all have their charms.  As I matured in my thinking ,  I really came to appreciate the 30 and 40 something ladies more and more for the quality of the experience.  I now believe in quality of the experience rather than the number of times in 24 hours that I get laid. For some people the number of times you get laid is based on price and that is ok.  Some are simply too cheap to pay the going rate.  For those people, perhaps it is best that they go to a foreign country to get laid.  Maybe they will not procreate in the USA and create more cheap ass hobbiests who feel that they should belittle some of the best providers around.  
Unfortunately, the evil that such business creates is child prostitution, and even child sex slave trade, which is rampant in some countries. I have traveled the world on business and have seen the results in underdeveloped countries.  The poverty is staggering and the young children offering themselves to men is sickening to me.  Many of the girls that Dreamer and others associate with may be of age now, but they probably started very young. As I passed by these girls a said a silent prayer that they would be ok.  Many of them will not live to be 20, 30 or 40 something.
I hobby only in the USA.

"Are you guys nutz 400 an hour. When I was in there. I stay at the luxor. I found girls all day long there for 150 an hour full service. Young and hot. Lets face it price need to come down. Some pic should be consider theft by deception. Us providers are greedy. They should train in the middle east. They would be much better providers."

Train in the middle east? Outstanding choice; which country? Perhaps Saudi Arabia, where women can be beaten by their husbands for any infraction, are forced to cover their entire bodies, and aren't even permitted to operate an automobile.

"When I was in there. I stay at the luxor" You may want to work on your English lanuguage and writing skills just a bit, because frankly, you sound like a drooling imbecile.

Enjoy the Luxor and your young and hot, 150$ bar girls. Is it possible that those young and hot girls were actually your first or second cousins? I hear that kind of action is all the rage in some parts of the middle east. MfSD>>>>

its sad to hear a man be-little women he has never been with . when you look at each of the women mentioned all three look fantastic.  l wish l had known of there existence last week when l was in las vegas l would gladly have seen them all .  each of them is extremely sexy looking and hot.  l've been with mature providers and they're lots of fun. they know how to make you happy and there all about pleasing you.  the 18 and 19 year old bar girls are only interested in the money not you . for them the faster they get you off the sooner there gone.  they have no interest in you  .  mary l read your reply and aggree with everything you said.  l hope in the future l will get an opportunity to see .

I made a brief comment further back in the thread but since then I've also sat back and read the comments. Your patient and well thought out reply is a testiment to your intelligence and love of your profession. I thank you. I'd love to meet you when I visit Vegas in February if you have time.

Here is what REALLY disturbs me. You are in your thirties and he attacked YOU. I don't even want to imagine what he and some of the others think of me,,a provider in my fifties and busy in my profession. My ego is probably just as thin as yours if not more so. I don't have that young hard body even though I spend daily time at the gym doing weights and cardio and have a trainer. I don't have lineless skin and perfect features but I do know what it is that a man needs and wants when he comes to the encounter with me. And, I am genuinely happy to share all the accumulated wealth of knowlege and experience that I have with him. I am fortunate. I still am in my sexual prime, energetic and hope to be for many more years. That doesn't mean I'll be a provider that long. It does mean that my sexuality is whole and vibrant now and hopefully will be a continued source of joy in my life for many years to come. Maybe I'll be even better when I'm in a wheelchair. There is room for all types of experiences and all types of fantasies here. It is negative and closed minded of some gents to think that THEIR preferences are the only ones that are right and that matter. If you don't like mature providers, don't see them. But leave the rest that do alone. As they say, YMMV.

Boy, honey, I hope I look half as good as you do when I'm 50!  Look me up when you're here and let's see if we can't work out lunch or something....

Wow!!! Did an older woman kick you in the balls recently?

I like em all, been with 18 to 43 as far as providers go and I'm only 32, call me crazy, I just love attractive, sexy women...oh well to each his own I guess

B-Pop



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