Perhaps some of you out there could help me with this????
HIM:
> Here's my situation. I'm at The Mirage (Penthouse Suite) and am waiting for my room to be cleaned. It's supposed to be done between 3-4pm. I have plans at7:00pm. I'm a little leery to confirm a time with you before I have a room but we could try. Otherwise we try later tonight or tomorrow? So glad to hear from you. Give me an idea of what best works for you.
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> Happy to call you and chat as well.
ME:
Tomorrow is looking a little better for me, say in the early evening. Or late , late , tonight as I will be available then too. We'll work it out.
xo
HIM:
To: [email protected]
I'll see you tomorrow at 5pm.
.......At this point I'm a little lost because 5pm had not become a set time yet????Huh?
ME:
5 pm doesn't work for me. It will have to be later because I have to have an emergency meeting with the people that run my art gallery in Colorado. I'll be in touch when I'm done.
xo
HIM:
Hi Ashley,
Any thoughts on a time?
Thanks,
........I could have sworn I said I would call as soon as I'm done.......?????
ME:
As stated, 3:00 AM??? (who knows???) I WILL call. My business comes first. Please
check your email before you ask questions previously answered. I'm not sure what you don't understand about being a business professional and these emails are interrupting my meetings.
HIM:
Then I get an e-mail from you less than an hour before our appointment saying "Someone more important called. Please hang around all night until I find the time to call you."
(..........I don't recall asking him to "hang around all night"?????)
I'm really looking forward to seeing you so I wait, and wait, and wait.........4 hours later, nothing. I spent the entire day getting ready for our meeting. I can't go anywhere. I can't do anything because you said you'd call. Hence, I spend the only free night I have in Vegas watching reruns of Sienfield on the Turner Network waiting for you to call.
I'm a good client, no I'm a great client. One that you wish you had more of. I know you see a lot of people and really couldn't care less but, you completely screwed me over tonight. The one night that I had to spend on myself. The one night I look forward to for months ahead of time. Thank you for that dose of reality and thank you for reminding me how insignificant I am to you.
WOW........ I truly don't understand. He and I never had a set time and no client is insignificant to me. I don't even feel compelled to call now. I'm back a tad early from Hawaii and hoped our schedules would mesh. They were cloudy at best and I could use a little advice here to hopefully learn something different so this doesn't happen again.
Providers and Hobbyists alike.....lend a word or two........I would appreciate it.
xo
AJ "the deemer of insignificant people"
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But really, his making shit up is bullshit. I don't have much to suggest for it not to happen again tho. Some guys just get butt hurt when things don't work out. If I sent that last email to you, I wouldn't expect another reply simply because I know what a dick I was. But, I'm sure with his attitude, he still wants you to kiss his ass.
I know shit happens both ways but making shit up or just not reading a clear email is bull. He is God's gift to providers so maybe you should email him back. LOL
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and there's always the answering machine...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1UH59CrRZLY
did i miss the point here? Not the first time
Yoda the Jedi Knight ranting
"look at me, look at me... ADD have I...ADD !
Two things:
1. He took it all a little too personally and when things looked like they were starting to fall apart should have just moved on to another.
2. You should have defined "early evening" a little better. To me, early evening means 5-7pm. So when you said to him that tomorrow in the early evening was good for you, he wanted to set a time for that.
b-
There seems to be a smidgen of ambiguity here, and it snowballed from that point.
The original em suggested he wanted to see you at 5p, but it wasn't specific. I think you could have given him a ballpark time when your meeting would be over with, or if you couldn't make it work to see him. I think both of you are guilty of assuming each other could read the other person's mind. That being said, worse things have happened.
When I was younger, and my hormones were screaming 24/7, God help the woman who offered to take care of my penis and stand me up, especially when my time was limited and I decided she was the one. So, I kinda understand where the guy is at, he's just venting, I wouldn't take that too personally. He'll get over it.
As for Seinfeld, I've seen your act, and you're at least as funny. You really should work on the standup act.
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AJ, I can't see that you did anything wrong! So I don't know what to tell you to keep this kind of thing from happening again. It looks to me like you just happened to run into a Narcissist. If I were you, I would just shrug my shoulders!
T.L.
P.S.: This is an example of how someone being modersated can make someone else look silly. Trip_Balu's post wasn't up when I responded as I did above. But NOW it looks like his message was posted way before mine! If I had seen his first, I probably wouldn't have responded at all. I shouldn't have anyway, because there are always two sides to a story and I only knew one. But now that I've read everything in this thread, I'll stand by what I said by leaving it there, except to say that if 5:00 Wednesday was confirmed by phone, less than an hour before that is rather late to postpone it, and to let four hours go by after the confirmed appointment without keeping in touch with him, well, that would have bothered me too. His "Seinfeld" e-mail to you DID seem arrogant, though, so I still think you should just shrug your shoulders.
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You know this falls into the category of sh#@ happens. Clearer communication on both parts probably would have helped. I saw Ashley and we both had hiccups in our schedules that we resolved by finding the right time the next day.
A night or two later I had another provider call to say it would be a couple of hours later, and I canceled the appt because of a work conflict.
His problem is he built up to big of an expectation and had to little of a window to make everything work.
I don't consider that I have a definite appointment with a lady until and unless we have agreed on a definite date and time and either incall or outcall. Once that concord is reached, we have obligations to each other.
If I inquire about availability generally on a certain day or portion of a day, that doesn't create an agreement for a specific time.
In this case, you went out of your way (far out of your way) to accommodate this loon and did absolutely nothing wrong. I wouldn't think a thing about it.
We are only getting one side of the story here, but let’s deal with that.
He’s at a Mirage Penthouse Suite? And he has not had it cleaned by 4:00PM? I find that hard to believe. He has plans at 7:00PM. I wonder what her name was. Lol So far it is not lost because he is willing to see you later tonight or tomorrow.
In your reply tomorrow is “looking a little better” “early evening” (I would say 5PM is early evening) and you are also willing to do late, late tonight. So you are willing to “work it out”.
You saying that 5:00PM does NOT work, and narrowing it down to say 6 or 7 should have been enough. Discussing your art gallery is personal information I would not want to hear about, I am looking on settling on the time. Then for you to say “I’ll be in touch when I’m done”, would be reason enough for me right then to make other plans and tell you sorry we could not get schedules to match. It is at this point you are both setting each other up for disappointment. After that he asks “Any thoughts on a time?” makes him appear he is still a serious suitor and wants to nail down a time. Again, I would have already cut bait, but that’s just me.
Your reply that you will call after 3:00am “who knows” “My business comes first” and other such prose as “what don’t you understand”….. and “these emails are”……. meetings etc. have quite a condescending tone and had I not cut bait earlier, this would be the time I would. But again, that’s me. Plus at 3:00AM and being a local I would already have been in bed for some 7 hours already. Lmao
This whole communication effort is fraught with ambiguity and misunderstandings on both sides. I believe the learning lesson here (not for him because he’s not part of this thread) is to be clear and concise on the schedule you have and what the gentleman has to work with. NAIL IT, or move on and do not draw it out to the point where both of you are on totally separate wave lengths.
Again, there are two areas in this comedy of errors in communication that I would have cut bait and made other plans, no matter how hot you are (and that is a fact we all know lol) and how long I have wanted to connect with you. Something tells me that in the days leading to this imaginary appointment he could have salvaged his “only free night in Vegas”.
At the end of the day or night as it were, his last communication is quite revealing. He is clearly all about HIM. All the Seinfeld’s notwithstanding, this poor lil me and self gratifying statements (“I’m a great client” and “One you wish you had more of” only serve to prove that by missing out on him was a good thing in the end. I would not have written that kind of message and am sure many other suitors would not have either. I would not have even bothered. I would have said to myself. NEXT
That said the short answer to your question is there was enough poor communication blame to go around.
I seem to have found my way into several instances of drama lately. Some of them have been of my own doing, and others have simply splattered onto me.
In all these cases, I guess the things I'm learning are...
*The ladies are looking to earn a living
*The ladies are human, and shit happens to them too
*Guys are simply horny teenagers that have ripened
*Vague communication tends to create problems in the long run
Before shit blows up, it's best to rationally assess the situation and react (or cut bait, to quote). I know that I've looked forward to some meetings to the point of doing dumb shit, and it rarely turns out well.
I could have handled the specifics better. I appreciate all of the help and especially the You Tube links. Funny stuff. I appreciate you guys mucho. And to the gentleman who says I called him limp "beep" "beep" ....How would I know? We never wound up meeting??? Interesting....![]()
Ordinarily it'd be "let's have a drink", but I think "let's raid a distillery" is more in order considering the monumental nature of this occurrence... ![]()
I have had emails or phone messages like this before.It almost makes me blame myself for something I thought I made a mistake on when finalising plans before a date.Then OL"Jenny gets smart and reviews the situation at hand and reviews what was spoken of.Always ,Always,Always stick by yo'guns and never break yo cardnal rules of providing,whatever they maybe by your standards.After this happens I keeps those Dudes on Jenny Syn's"Do Not See List"....I don't need the harrassment and the b/s.