B, if I may intervene here...this is appearing to be all too important to you.  The beginnings of this centered around whether Spinner gets deals for reviews.  I've heard conversation (both for the prosecution and defense) on the topic, but have no hard facts one way or the other.  I know him, and find him to be an OK guy.  A lot of the ladies like him.  I've personally been offered a rate that was below the stated one before, and it had nothing to do with reviewing.  I wouldn't be surprised if he did too.  I'm not saying that he's innocent either, because I don't know.

The point is...who cares?  It happens.  If not by him, then undoubtedly by others.  Is there a dirtbag element among some hobbyists?  You bet there is.  90%?  It could be that high.  I hope for the sake of the ladies that I know and enjoy spending time with that it's MUCH lower.

The question I have for you is why is it so important?  I can play white knight with the best of them, but I'm not afraid of a little rough and tumble jousting either.  You seem to get upset everytime that someone does something not completely politically correct.  With no disrespect intended, you may want to evaluate why all of this matters so much to you.  It's supposed to be fun!

If you 9 scoundrels are winning me any points with providers for being a non-negotiator, I say keep it up.

But it's funny that you would question how "involved" I get.

This much should be apparent by now. On all these boards, they may appear to be free, the review process may appear to be sacrosanct, but there's always an admission price. After all, it's those admission prices which make TER profitable. Nothing against Staff, but he's not running a charity here. The idea, as I see it, is to determine the faux from the vrai. It's not that hard, you know. But having been around since the beginning, which dates before TER, I may have an advantage.

There are a number of players who do the review for discount/freebies thing. Many ladies offer it.  In Los Angeles, where I spend a great deal of time, the asking price is invariably $400-$800/hr, some have a two hour min. You might consider the asking price is the way it is is because these ladies know, even at the outrageously priced 4 hour, $3K dinner date, there will be a taker somewhere out there. The reality is that $250-$350 will get you a session with 80% of these ladies, at the level of service they give everyone else.

You have to understand something. These boards are a total pimparama. Again, it's part of the admission price. There was a young provider who I really dug who got approached once by one of those "trusted reviewers". He offered, in exchange for a freebie, a photo shoot/placement in major men's magazine and a review. She reported him to Staff. He's still here, she retired at the ripe old age of 20 and is living life. If a 19yo girl can figure out how the game is played, why is so tough for those with superior education and life experience?

Regarding Spinner, it was an honest question. I'm long done with this. Feel free to take the last word. Just don't forget to look both ways first.

You'll be seeing reviews 44 and 45 soon (bad idea for a Taoist like me to have a number of reviews ending in 44). Can't wait to see what my pm box looks like.