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CelticLass 20008 reads
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Ok this made me laugh harder than anything I read today. Please excuse me for being rude Franky, but how the hell would YOU know whether this is nonsense or not. Do you live or work in Vegas?

What I have learned in almost a year in Las Vegas is that the hobby world here has a life of its own and unlike any place I have ever worked. I KNOW girls who have had run ins with our boys in blue here and I have NEVER seen it on the news. I am sure that is for various reasons that only a few understand.


Trust me when I say when it is something as important as trouble in Vegas, people do not post frivolously.  

have Fun the rest of your stay in Vegas....

-Lass

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sweetsable20396 reads

Channel 8 and 13 have reported that Las Vegas PD/LE is "cracking down" on "Social Clubs" and "Agencies". They did not say anything about the independents or AMP's.

Apparently the "Social and/or Swingers Clubs" are just fronts for brothels/prostitution (duh!). Also LVPD/LE is tired of the blatant "Agency" ads on billboards, taxi cabs, newspaper stands and the people handing out flyers/brochures for the agencies all over The Strip. It was suggested that the city just "regulate" the agencies, etc. But the city says they refuse to "regulate" an industry that is clearly illegal. Apparently they are going after the OUTCALL agency girls (I know that most independents do Outcalls, I wonder if they will get caught in any "stings").

QUESTION: Has anyone else heard about this? Do you think they will come after the "Independents" and/or do you think we have anything to worry about?

sable

Yes.  Please share if any of you have been targeted.  Be careful out there!

I was about to post the same type of message.

Other things that I know of:

Metro vice since this summer have stepped up their in Strip hotels... They no longer issue citations for soliciting but are arresting the first time offenders. Few occasions they have arrested girls for "intent to solicit" (bullshirt offense).

They have especially stepped up their presence on the south end of the strip - MGM, NYNY, Luxor, and Mandalay Bay...

I have an unconfirmed report (but from highly reliable sources) a sting operation was conducted at a major strip hotel in which 5 ladies from the Internet were arrested. Supposedly, these appointments were made well in advance and had out of state business numbers... I'm still looking into this...

A friend of mine (who performs FBSM) flew in from Atlanta. She received two very suspicious emails from AOL , claimed to be locals, wouldn't give a last name, never seen a provider or done FBSM, and used cell numbers as their business numbers, and were very very interested if this included sex and of what kind...DUH!!!:-)



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I heard the same thing while in Vegas. Out of state cell #s with no work # provided and no other provider references. MGM April 12 was the last that my friends in Vegas knew of. Why don't they just clean up the streets and casino girls? Leave the independents alone.

Kimmie22588 reads

New to the neighborhood?  Welcome!  Where ya from?

Hello Kimmie! Ca and I travel to Vegas, Reno and the Bay alot for work. Thanx for asking, Nash

Every dime that doesn't go into the casinos is considered pick-pocketing.  When the economy was flourishing and it was raining cash, there was plenty to go around.  LE enforced, but they weren't nearly as aggressive... and even some casinos turned their head on occasion.  With the economic decline, you're going to see all-out enforcement against all vices that compete for both local and tourism $$$$.

straightman19037 reads

But high profile "lawbreakers" have always attracted more than their share of attention. If it effects the "image" it will be targeted. The lower your profile, the less likely you are to generate irritaion and hterefoe attention.

The Agency girls are notorious for ripping you off. Ripoffs are bad for business. Any business. Sounds to me like somebody was running as a "regular guy" and got shook by an Agency that was too stupid (or greedy) to make it right.

Cops do what they're told or react to survive. If a high up media jerk got took, this could be a noisy purge.

I doubt it this time.

1) May is sweeps month. Sex sells... Channel 8 also did a report about minors having sexual relations with adults. Read the article of KLAS' website and see the bias shock value...

2) The assistant D.A. heading up this "war" is running for public office... can we say free media coverage!

I hope they were only targeting the agencies... most are switch and bait, cash in dash, or pay $$$$$ for a HJ operation... they deserve to be shut down.

However, the arrests at the MGM of 5 internet providers and the tactics used to schedule appointments, means some people need to be more careful or at least pass the word around to their fellow associates how they got arrested.

I think LV Metro is going to crack down on everything and anything to keep the "coverage" going...

straightman20410 reads

Rocky Delgadillo did the "sweep" in LA recently. Cops don't like to be used by politicians even if they get to see nekked beautuful women...

GTO16882 reads

Hopefully they won't target the independents. I am planning a trip to Vegas in June and I hope everything blows over before I get there.


The Las Vegas vice does this at least once a year---(I have a friend thatlives there and indulges in this hobby)" I watched a special on Las Vegas and San Francisco vice a few weeks ago.Both Deputy DAs admitted they will never be able to totally control it(hence the Worlds Oldest Profession)

I do believe that Las Vegas will eventually will follow in San Franciscos foot steps. In Sf the DA does not and will not Prosecute stretwalkers or outcall girls(it costs way too much money and does not rid the problem. Sf Vice is  frustrated with the DAs stand because they have to babysit these streetwalkers all night to try and protect them//If they are too blatant, the cops will take them in, but release them in the AM with no charges.

Las Vegas is definitely concerned with the "streetwalker" and the Blatant display of prostitution on Taxis and Billboards.Im sure there will be some changes with that because it has got pretty out of hand. Some guy handed my 85yr old grandpa a sex flyer in front of the Venetian! They will go after the streetwalkers first and then the agencies. There are much bigger fish to fry than the "Independent" that advertises on the internet. I doubt that anything will happen to the women on this sight as long as they continue to be smart about it.

Kimmie19065 reads

very disappointing too since some new girls in town dont feel the need to share the info the way we usually do here in Vegas.  Quite a few were popped just recently at the MGM with unusual tactics...We have prided ourselves here in Vegas on communication of such matters for the protection of all of us and those of that care will continue to do so.

Kimmie, I am just speculating, but ... I'd guess that the MGM story is just nonsense.  Very unlikely that vice did the bust that is being discussed on the different hobby boards, WITHOUT you or your friends actually knowing what happened, or somebody here not having direct information.  Vice and the DA office  usually, report that kind of news (and the media loves it) so the people know that their hard earned dollars are being used to fight crime and clean up the streets.
While I'm not surprised that candidates are making a stand against prostitution and have declared an effort to reach the owners of services, to me at least, it all seems as business as usual. Hope you and your friends are safe. Franky

Kimmie24784 reads

Evident not only in the phone call we had for one, the reviews you posted maybe have a slight chance of being legit as there is one gentleman I know who posted a review as well on someone you claimed to have seen...but somehow after you telling me you are from San Francisco (but not until the 5th time I asked) and divorced as you also noted, I find it rather odd you'd see a lady in YOUR San Jose hotel room and then I come here to see this post full of utter nonsense - which is exactly what you STOPPED talking about rather abruptly once brought up in the one sided conversation i attempted to participate in - amazing i come here and this NONSENSE is posted here - FYI sweets - I DO KNOW FOR A FACT IT HAPPENED - You see, Kimmie doesnt talk unless she has DIRECT INFORMATION, but you wouldnt know that since I wasnt allowed more than two sentences in 20 minutes on the phone, would you?  How many times did I have to ask for that reference again and get an answer to a simple 'hi where you from'?  To be honest it really doesnt matter at this point cause whether or not that ref i "emailed" out ever comes back - i'm afraid the NONSENSE of putting any of this post or you together even half is too much NONSENSE for this lady to deal with - oh, but keep in mind I did not 'email' that ref req to that girl i've never heard of until after you kept insisting I call some chick I've never heard of at midnight with a number you were ready to give me so easily off the top of your head while sitting in a hotel room complaining about how you've been trying to 'get laid' all day...whew (lol try and figure that out cause i cant)...its apparent the real nonsense here is that you think someone would even consider meeting you.  Hell... I believe whole heartedly you've been hobbying for years...LOL

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Hi Kimmie, and thank you for your response.
I'm quite surprised by your post.  I'm extremely concerned that you would post some of the things we spoke about privately on the phone ... here. Why are you posting where I am from?  Or my marital status? I hope your regulars don't feel as uncomfortable about you having knowledge about their private lives, as I now do. Your comments are exceedingly unprofessional.
 Of course I never would, but, would you think it appropriate if I were to reveal some of the private things you mentioned to me in a public place as this?  About people, places, cities, past jobs, future plans, who you know, ...whatever. Again, your post reveals a very unprofessional side of you ... too bad you can't see that.  People here will come to their own conclusion.
You wrote, ... "its apparent the real nonsense here is that you think someone would even consider meeting you. Hell... I believe whole heartedly you've been hobbying for years...LOL"
What a horrible and mean spirited comment to make!  
Regarding my being in the hobby a long time, while I have no interest if you believe me or not, I assure you it's true. But, what difference does that make anyway, aren't newbies welcome and invited here? I sure hope you're not the welcoming committee!
In any event, as I indicated to you in our conversation, I am new to the Internet side of the lifestyle.  Can you understand that? That means for the past twenty years or so I've visited legal brothels, massage parlors, traveled to Amsterdam, Prague, Thailand or, as I indicated to you in our conversation, walked down to the bar in The Bellagio, Venetian, Desert Inn or wherever, and met a lady. Have you been so wrapped up in the Internet that you forgot that there is an another parallel world?
My being new to the Internet also means I have just recently found this website and have just now become aware of how things are done when procuring a date over the Internet, like provider referrals, which by the way, I was introduced to for the first time yesterday. Also, you think I've been grilled before about where I'm from and what I do by strangers over the phone?  You can't understand how someone might be taken by surprise by all those questions?  Why someone might not want to reveal all that private information to a stranger they have never met, particularly if they're not used to the way things are done?  Are you that obtuse? Considering the information you revealed in your post, my apprehension about revealing anything to you, was spot on.
My being new with the "hobby" on the Internet has not been kept secret here. I made a post saying hello to everyone when I first joined up about a month ago.  If you had read around this site a bit, you might have found it.
Regarding my reviews ... why would you accuse me of making them up? Because I used a hotel room to visit with a provider while I was in San Jose?  Why wouldn't I use a room if I was in San Jose? Should I have invited an unkown provider to my home? And, an hour away, (2 1/2 if traffic) from where I was?
Are you this nasty with everyone here?  Do people here tolerate that kind of mudslinging on this board? Please. Every review is real and though I am not a great poster, I will get better at it. I rated too high in the beginning and regret that but, they are all true.
The concluding comments about my trying to give you a number off the top of my head, is just flat out told in a deceptive manner to make your point seem more true.  Of course, it's all made up.
You asked for a provider reference and I told you that I had to provide another LV lady with one earlier in the day, and as a result, had her number written down in my hotel room. I also told you that the number was the same as the one you would find at her website and provided that URL address to you, also. It wasn't some "chick" as you say. It was the phone number to the provider, AND she had told me that I could have any provider call her for a reference or email her, anytime, when I called her earlier yesterday to obtain her permission.  I was taking her up on her offer so that you would be satisfied by speaking with her.  Of course, as I told you last night, the reason I wanted you to call her was so we wouldn't have to wait for her to go to her computer, find your email, and then respond. Quite disturbing that you would twist that very simple scenario, around.
I believe most of the anger you are expressing is caused by the fact that you were just pissed off at my post where I indicated I didn't believe that the bust at the MGM took place. You obviously have some information that most of us don't have pertaining to the bust, convincing you that it IS true. Perhaps if you shared that information, we would all understand what took place at the Grand. I see now that there has been a few more people saying that they have independent knowledge of it, so perhaps, it true. Again, I don't know.
If it is true, I hope that all of you women will take extra care to protect yourselves from misfortune and hazards. I also hope you will be polite and respectful in the process.


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Kimmie19351 reads

I give what I get, PERIOD. Thank you so much for your concern about my regulars, they will be tickled pink you care for them so much! The entire conversation with you last night just re-confirmed exactly why I have stayed off this site and kept my reviews off this site as well - the lack of genuine information here is staggering, not to mention the lack of respect by gentlemen such as yourself, which I simply wont tolerate.  I do however, extend my sincerest apologies to those gentlemen that do participate on this site that dont fall into the same category as you.  Genuine people are clearly affected by the behavior of those like you who play such games and attempt such innuendo as you just have in your posts...its a shame, because I know there are great men here, as told to me by my associations with top ladies that do generate alot of business from this site.  Being in this biz has never been only about money for me as its not my sole means of support.  Those that know me, know me well and know my integrity will always remain in tact.  I never have and never will be one who cowers to what gentlemen say on these boards, so please feel free to say whatever you deem the truth to be, even if its only in your own head.  Am I always right? - no but then again I dont claim to be or claim to know everything about this business or shove my opinions in peoples face for alterior motives.  Forgive me, but the ladies on this site do have a right to know your tactics and who am I to keep it from them? Oh and by the way - the term 'personal information' would come into play if i sat here and posted your real name, address or anything of that nature...your lame attempt here to tarnish my reputation is amusing, but by all means - bring it on big boy if it makes you feel better, but remember - my reputation has overcome bigger doggies than you.  *wink

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CelticLass20009 reads

Ok this made me laugh harder than anything I read today. Please excuse me for being rude Franky, but how the hell would YOU know whether this is nonsense or not. Do you live or work in Vegas?

What I have learned in almost a year in Las Vegas is that the hobby world here has a life of its own and unlike any place I have ever worked. I KNOW girls who have had run ins with our boys in blue here and I have NEVER seen it on the news. I am sure that is for various reasons that only a few understand.


Trust me when I say when it is something as important as trouble in Vegas, people do not post frivolously.  

have Fun the rest of your stay in Vegas....

-Lass

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Hello Lass--
My living or working here really doesn't have much bearing with whether or not people that do live or work here have reported seeing stories about this MGM bust in the media. I didn't see any reports, just gossip and hearsay here and on other boards, nothing firsthand that I read.
While it is true that often times the media will not report a typical vice bust, I believe they usually will report on a major sting.
It may or may not be true, I don't know. As I read more from new posters, I seem to think it is more likely, but again, I don't know.
Do you or any of your friends have first hand information?  That would surely clear things up for me.Thanks.  Franky

Kimmie24815 reads

public record, look it up yourself.

The MGM sting is not nonsense. It happened. What surprises me is the means Metro went to conduct this sting operation. Screening process is going to be more difficult now.

Alexia_Jay21867 reads

Hi - could you also e-mail me any helpful info on this situation. Your insight is appreciated. Alexia

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