I am a newer hobbyist (had one date, one more scheduled for this Saturday) and come to Las Vegas occasionally.  My question arises from the matter of hourly rates.

I would like to meet a provider and chat for a while before going upstairs, but the cost of doing so seems prohibitive.  From what I have read, most CG calls seem to be oriented toward getting into the hotel room, and commencing horizontal refreshment as quickly as possible.  On the other hand, I would like to get to know someone with whom I will later be intimate.  I don't mean full disclosure of each other's lives, but establishing some rapport and mutual respect.

I understand that a provider's time is valuable, and am not looking for a way to down-sell, but two hours at $500 each, before heading upstairs is a sticker-shock that is keeping me a little bit out of the game.

My question (understanding that mileage varies): are the hourly rates typically for time including and outside of physical activity, or is time chatting at the bar beforehand at some other rate?

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You might find someone that will dine with you at a "dinner only rate" then once in the room the "fun" timer kicks in. That is possible and can probably be worked out. I feel it's better to meet at the bar, then after 10-15 minutes you'll have a good ideal where it's going to go or how it will go.
Good Luck.

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Hi,
 Please contact me I would love to work out a comfortable arrangement for the both of us. I like to get to know my new friends. Dinner and Drinks are always a wonderful way to start

xoxo,
Sydney

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I love taking the time to have a drink or dinner prior to taking it to the next level.

The only time there's $ involve for me is for the time we have in the bedroom.

In another word, I don't ask for compensation for my time, for a drink/or dinner, simply because the gentlemen usually treats me on their behalf.

Lick Lick,

Ashley

Never is my time free, but I do understand the need to see if we maybe friends...

... many have been known to offer meet and greet arrangements, and a few (LaRue McCay and Angel Girl I know for certain) even have specially structured "casual rates" for more socially oriented evenings that don't involve BCD time.

You might also want to keep your eye on the Meet & Greet board as well.  

We were all new hobbyists once. Cheers

Wow, that is very generous of you. So are you saying that he can book the entire evening with you drinking, dancing, dining and then you only charge him for the sex and not the time? That is a great deal! I can see your calendar is going to be pretty full. You are so beautiful I may even book with you.  

Quite the opposite for me. I only charge for my time, never for sex. What we do during that time is up to the client and myself to decide. I would probably get fed a lot more often if I did it off the clock.

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I personally  gear towards extended appointments because how lucky am I that I can be with a new (or prior friend) enjoy Las Vegas through their eyes and each time have a new experience.?!?

We are spoiled in las Vegas (I say in a good way)

The gents /couples allow us to see shows and eat at great restaurants and also support family/further education or whatever our goal is here

I may or may not be your type but I suggest that you reach out to whomever you want to meet and see if they offer anything that may enable you to fulfill your desires

we are all humans and love what we do and many do with pride and happiness in our heart

sincerely
Lovely Lorena De Leon

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Many girls, myself included, offer special rates for extended dates.

I love the fine-dining here in Vegas, and the shows... so I do a lot of "dinner date" packages which can sometimes be 2-3, or even 4-5 hrs long... So when you break it down it's a very reasonable hourly rate...

And I usually prefer a social drink before heading upstairs for more intimate play as that, for me, is part of my session and I agree with you "jungle man" - I too like to get to know someone a little bit before jumping in the sack with them. I am a super friendly person and love getting to know more about the people I meet.  

And, like Heather, I have some friends I have know for years who absolutely adore me and love having me as their companion to do fun things with, skiing, hiking, heading out to Lake Mead, traveling to far off places... and willingly pay me my extended date rate as for them it is a LOT more than just the hot passionate sex!!! It's about having fun with the person and doing things they wouldn't normally do... or simply having someone to spend time with. Heather is an absolute darling and I know alot of her clients adore her for her personality as much as for the hot intimate time. I loved her comment about booking Ashley!!! Maybe we could both do that!!!!! Now that sounds like a hot threesome!!!

Or maybe jungleman could really explore his wild side with all three of us!! And maybe even La Rue as well!!!!!!

PS. You are soooo worth every penny spent for time with you!!! I adore you gorgeous!!!

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Thank you for the kind words.  
Yes, it is a great deal to go with that plan of enjoying  
a drink or dinner off the clock with one another and then
dessert on the clock. :~}

You are a beautiful woman as well. I get to Vegas on occasions,
in fact, I'll be there Dec. 9th-11th.  

Have a fabulous day, sweet thing.

You made my day by wanting to include me with you and Heather. :~}

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I would love to meet up with you when you are here! I am always ready for "girl time" off the clock!

You got it.

ously , enough with this BS , trying to give each other compliments , trying to come across sweet and nice ......Geez cum on now people ...... be real and tell it like it is .
Cause the message is getting lost - and someone is getting the wrong idea .

A) If I was to have dinner OTC  ( off the clock ) with every gent for the price of
    "in room desert" only , I would be FAT and BROKE
       
B)  It is not legal to pay for sex , you are paying for the ladies time ,
     what you want to do with that time is up to you .
C)  As in any business , advise about how you should run your business ,  
     shouldn't be taken from clients.

My lawyer , hair lady, nail lady , accountant  ..... whoever doesn't need ME telling them how is the correct way to run THEIR business.

Now with all this said - every gent that sees me  ( as for all ladies ) loves spending time getting to know me , as I love getting to know them.  
Yes spending time at dinner or show or other getting to know each other activities definitely creates a more intimate bond between 2 people.

Hence why gents book  "Dinner Dates"  "Long evenings"  "overnights" "extended trips"  
Hence why ladies create a different rate structure ( discounted )  for extended dates.

Majority of us ladies here attract gents that want more then just wham bamm thank you madam.
and also because most gents are here on business they have more time in the way they hobby compared to how they may hobby back home , if they even hobby back home at all.

Meaning back home some may hobby in a wham bam thank you madam style because they don't have the time for anything longer .
People who hobby in Vegas , have way more time .  

So OP , if you want longer engagements , you can find them everywhere .  
No you don't pay double the rate , you will find discounted rates for multiple hours ......but you shouldn't expect "free of charge" because you're buying dinner , or just talking .
It's the ladies TIME .  
Do you do your job for free  ?    

The theory of - I love dinner so I will do that for free ......
Umm I LOVE SEX ........ doesn't mean I give it FREE

You are paying for ladies time. Contact a lady that floats your boat . If she isn't in your budget
keep looking , I am sure sooner or later you will find within your budget.
Although sometimes there may be a difference between what we want and what we can afford.
Nothing wrong with that ....... I want a Ferrari , can't afford one , but found a different sporty car that I am very happy with    

In general the way I do my screening , some rapport is already established before I even meet with the gent.
SO if ones time frame or budget doesn't allow for an extended meeting , our time together will still be amazing .

If I don't tell it like it is ...... who will  
xoxo CindySpice

I will take that deal any time

I look forward to meeting with you, in the near future. :~}

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No , moral of the story is - you are paying for our TIME , not for SEX  
 

xoxo CindySpice

If I ever see a lady for a drink or dinner prior to meeting - I would still feel obligated to compensate the lady something. Maybe not a full "date" amount; but something.

As I feel about it, nothing is free, unless you volunteer

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To the OP's defense, he did not ask for OTC, he asked for policies on discounted multi hour, or hour plus dates.  I think that is a reasonable topic of discussion, especially given he is relatively new.  Yes one provider suggested dinner OTC, he only suggested drinks.  My comments are:

Providers price their services and rates on their own. Some providers, such as the ones posting on this thread, offer very reasonable multi hour discounts, in fact I've booked most of them and their multi hours are very reasonable and I highly recommend all of them.  

Some providers will have a 15 min drink OTC, most of them use this as an additional method of screening.  Some just as a courtesy. It is more common than you may think.  Another OTC that is common, but unmentioned, is the incall shower.  For me it's a real treat because I like taking my time in the shower.  The problem is you never really know if its OTC until the time is up.  So personally, the benefit of a 15 minute drink or shower many times helps make my decision.  

Some providers do not offer multi hour discounts, their rates are $600; $1,200; $1,800 for 1, 2 or 3 hours.  So if one of those providers wants to "price" their date with an OTC dinner or drink, I think that is reasonable as long as it is not abused by the hobbyist (lets face it guys, some times we can be a boring bunch, the girls do have other things they can be doing, and some of them are paying baby sitters while they are entertaining us.)

The problem is what do you do when you find a $600 an hour girl that doesn't offer a multi hour rate that you really like (I have a few, and one did post here).  Do you just assume that's the rate, or do you ask for a multi hour rate?  Up to now I just pass them over, is that what the girls want?  Is it proper to make an offer for a multi hour date?  

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Also, kinda off topic,  but related, what happens when you find a girl that offers a "multi hour premium"?  This is more common in my local area, girls will have a $300 hour, and a $500 90 minute rate.  That makes the 90 minute rate more expensive than the hour on a per hour basis (90 minutes is 1 1/2 times and hour, if the hour is $300, 1 1/2 times that is $450, so $500 requires a $50 premium).  I have only found two examples of this in Vegas, but in Phila there are about four or five girls with that pricing structure.  When I have approached them on this issue I've gotten yelled at pretty seriously, but a few time the girls have thanked me ("I just didn't think of that").  But that has only happened after they yell at me for a while.

Thank you, Cindy, for saying what I was struggling to say.

You are a no BS, bold woman and I adore that!!!

(PS...no, I'm not kissing your ass either!  LOL)

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The moral of the story is to listen up to Ms. Spice especially when she gives advice.

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post a reply; it is greatly appreciated.  I saw this question as something best asked in a forum like this one, rather than in person, where asking for an opinion would be interpreted as asking for a discount (not what I intend).   Like many other topics, there appear to be as many opinions (or more) as there are people.

Some background on my question: I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago, and was approached on the casino floor by a very pretty woman.  She pushed early and aggressively to come up to my room.  Having only just met her, I didn't feel good about it (for my personal safety, among other reasons) and did not follow through.  This made me wonder how I should proceed under other circumstances, though.  You ladies all screen new clients (as well you should) but as a client, I also feel the need to do some screening of my own.  I consider myself a good judge of character, and usually know what I need to know about someone withing a short time.

Everyone's time is valuable (I don't work for free, either), and would not expect such from anyone, without their stating that it is acceptable.  (Attorneys sometimes give free initial consultations, etc.)  This is why I posed my initial question.

Ashley: You are simply lovely, and your offer is so generous, that I would probably feel guilty for taking you up on it.  When in Los Angeles, I would like to see you.

KiwiGirl: Your recommendation of a group event with three providers is intriguing.  I imagine (based on all of your reviews) that partaking in one would leave me exhausted, but very, very happy.

Cindy: Thank you for your lengthy and thoughtful reply.  I did not intend to tell anyone what their business is or how it should be run, but wanted, as a relative beginner, to understand how things work.  I hoped to ask in a way that would avoid giving offense.

IShootCraps: Your commentary from a client's perspective was most appreciated.

Also, thank you to those of you who sent me private messages.  I will be in Las Vegas the weekend after New Years, and am sure that I will be seeing one (or more) of you at that time.

There is a difference between BS ass kissing or should I say tip toeing around an issue  , OR posting support to what I am saying so people know I am not the only one thinking this way .

Your public post is greatly appreciated  , as all of the PM's that I got ......if I had a penny for every
PM that I got , I could buy that Ferrari .  

 
So no worries about showing public support ......although who made me boss of what to worry about LOL LOL LOL  

Either way , you are welcome and thank you too.  

xoxo CindySpice  

 

st of the time hobbyist posting about pricing issues are just complaining and many times are rude.

You post was sincere and respectful.  It allowed for a better quality of replies.  

Come the the next M&G , you can "screen" to your little hearts content.

I want to clarify to you Jungleman606  

in NO WAY did I mean that you are trying to tell ladies how they should run their business .
I thought using certain phrasing made that quite clear ...... I guess not ;-( ;-(  

My post wasn't addressed only to you OP . Yes I address your questions/comments  but the post was also due to some other comments made and to ALL of the people who only lurk this board.

Infact I wasn't even planning on answering your post , cause at first I thought you got answers that were needed .......but as the thread went on , and on .......my eyes started rolling and I knew I wasn't the only one ,( based on all the PM's that I got after my post , well I was just saying what most everyone else was thinking )   and since no one else seemed to say hold on WTF ???
Well then that is where my post came in .  

I know my fault I should always put up disclaimer - warning please do not take everything I say personally , for the most part what I say is to answer an issue in general , not just for OP .

No I am not offended by anything . Your post is point on. for sure this is the place to bring up this  topic rather then asking one or two people in person .
Although maybe best to ask the lady your interested in what HER policy is......cause at the end of the day , that is the one that counts  

If you were wondering how others in general see/handle this topic ..... well then here you are  
 
Hard to offend me , but I can get pissed or annoyed ...... again not about what you were asking  
about other people's comments .

Another thing about me - just because I ask something , doesn't mean I am saying that is what you wanted.
Like I asked - do you work for free ? it is to make a point ,not because I think that you expected or that you were asking for free time. ....btw there are Attorney's who charge consultation fees
Yes I know you know that , just making a point ...... or trying too . *wink wink*  

I know many times I use the word YOU , but I don't mean it as YOU literally .... I guess I should make that more clear in future . sorry , my bad .......
Urggg having English as my fifth language      

Score points for you ( now literally YOU LOL LOL )  for listening to your BIG head when it came to the casino girl.

I have a few more comments, but got to run now , so more later .
Till then  
Happy Holidays  
xoxo CindySpice  

P.S. edited for  "technical difficulties" ....... I thought this issue has been resolved ......and also forgot to add something  

 

 
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I would recommend run don't walk away.  Do a google search of the term "trick roll Las Vegas". Look for the RJ article. There are also numerous threads on this board discussing CGs.  

Hey Cindy,

No offense meant, taken, given, or implied. I was not calling you out, and genuinely appreciated the time you spent in composing your reply. I am here to learn, not have my ego stroked, and appreciate your candor.

 
Jm606

great points that made a lot of sense; especially about the 1 hour and 90 min rates.

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