I haven't been in this for too long, but I have come to the conclusion that I just don't want to be a provider that does BBBJ. I got tested recently cause I think us gals should,

and I found out I'm clean . I enjoy that fact. I get sore gums sometimes to my teeth ,and yes I have white nice teeth but I worry if I do BBBJ anytime my gums are sore I might be acceptable to anything if I do BBBJ.

One day they are fine and another they might be tender So I'm stating this for the record so I'm not unfair to different people by doing covered one day or not covered BJ another.

I also want  everyone to know I enjoy being a GFE. I used to do BBBJ but for 4 weeks I have really been debating this knowing I'm clean without any worry that covered for these lips feels right to me.Some guys get sad so I felt it imperative to announce my new term.

How many providers battle with this? Do guys just don't like providers who do covered everything?

Go easy on me cause I don't normally post my opinions but I feel with the GFE,covered everything,and just being genuinely honest to be the best policy.

I have only 2 reviews by well known hobby guys so I don't know if this will cause me career failure but at least I get to live longer with no worries.

BTW, the only 2 reviews I have is by 1 guy who described me but has never had a BBW provider and another guy who loves BBW. So one says I 6 in looks, but another says I'm a 9. I'm somewhere in the middle...

So here I am sticking to my convictions...




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But you have to do what makes you comfortable.

But it's a limitation to some, and will reduce your pool of possible clients. In my opinion, I'd much rather a gal be in her comfort zone when she's with me but, even though I buy into the fact that covered may be safer, I admit that it's a data point that I consider when I'm window shopping. It's a step away from that PSE and even GFE fantasy.

Still, I know some really great gals, Tasha and McKayla come to mind, who don't BB and it doesn't reduce the evening one bit. They make up for it with personality, enthusiasm and... I don't know - an emotional/mental GFE???

If you're not comfortable, sweetheart, don't do it. Make sure you have your profile changed, though, so there are no unhappy misunderstandings.


AS

I like mines covered, the safer, the better. Guys should respect your decision.

I for one like BB I happen to be a very oral person giving and recieving. I have in the past, and will in the futher see some ladies that only do covered. If the lady is extra special in personality it makes up for it. And yes the same vegas ladies come to mind. If that is your comfort zone then stay there.

I put a premium value on BBBJ. 400 or more an hour without a bbbj is pretty much a rule out for me. I've had a lot of good times with CBJ girls, it is just one piece of the overall experience.

This is a great thread that should be transferred over to the national board.  Everyone has their own level of comfort.  In many areas of North America a GFE offering bbbj is considered unsafe.  There are many medical white paper to prove otherwise, however, if you have sensitive gum's I would highly consider taking the safer path.

Life is too short for regrets.  There are plenty of hobbyists looking for an entire experience not just a bj.

Stick to your guns the business will come.

Warmly,
Reagan Levy

The most important thing for my GFE experience is DFK.  When looking for a provider, those that offer BBBJ actually raise concerns.  Sort of a variation the the old line "Do you kiss your mother with that thing?"  Do I want to be swapping spit with someone that has had so many "protein shakes?"

I wouldn't skip a provider that I really wanted to see because she offers BBBJ - it's just a preference to be with someone safer when there is a choice.  

Definitely stay within your comfort factors.  I wouldn't enjoy time with a provider that is uncomfortable.

Re: Excuse Me...Double Standard, Alert. Re: Be aware there are some that feel the opposite..

I wasn't and am not judging you at all. Just reassuring the original poster.

It's a big, wonderful world with lots of choices.  Plenty of room for everyone. Apologies if you took offense.  

You had that expression copyrighted...

For the record, a CBJ isn't what I'm looking for, but occasionally I'll go for it if the price is right, or the lady does it for me.

In my mind, it has a discounting effect, but at the same time, I'd never try to convince a lady to go outside of her comfort zone.

...when I look at a lady's review and see 'BJ - Yes with condom' I move on, the rest of the review does not matter.  
Every lady is entitled to set her own limits and every man looking has a right to keep on looking.
MVR

Personally I don't enjoy them.  I have never done them and won't change my "menu" to suit anyone but myself.  I have seen many guys who only prefer bbbj and later wrote me a steller reviews.

I also know, a lot of men I see wouldn't see me if I was a bbbj provider.  The thought of kissing a lady who maybe didn't brush or gargle after her last shake, doesn't appeal to them for some reason.  SNOWBALL

We all just have to do what we feel is right or that is comfortable for us.  

As my (stellar) review states, I was strictly BBBJ only until I met you.  Thanks! LOL

Oh, and be careful using any version of the word "shake".  Apparently it pissed Robbin off. (GOD I should learn when to shut up!)

to make myself feel uncomfortable.  I'll take "the other side" of the market and make sure I am safe and comfortable, far before I step out of my comfort zone just to make the other person happy.

This is about mutual pleasure to me.  I'm not just in it for the quick buck, so I try to make sure this is enjoyable for the guy and myself.  Enjoyable to me (no offense guys) doesn't include penis juice in my mouth  Just my preference though.  Maybe because the one time it was in my mouth it tasted like salt and flour.  EWWWWWWWWWW. LOL

(And after 5 yrs of CBJ, I think I have a pretty darn good technique )

Once again, no offense guys and ladies  I still like all of you, just saying.

Extra mile? I see where women are coming from but when they get striken down with a disease cause they did "the extra mile" they aren't going to be able to count their money for too many years.

It's stories like the porn stars in los angeles that got aids. You never know who has it. They look awesome even with aids!

What if the girl had a cut on her lip and went the extra mile with some guy sucking bare back and got something?

I've been here for three months ,and when I first got here did you know how many men wanted just bareback sex and how I went running out the door telling them no I can't do that? Too many guys! I was less rich but I survived this...

If the girl always goes the extra mile when does she decide to stop? You think she will if she has Hiv? no. If the provider always goes the extra mile do you think the provder will stop when she has Hep B,or stop if she has any Hep?  

If the guys always go the extra mile to push us girls to do stuff for money and play that extra mile game then who drawels the lines?

That's why I'm posting this. I love being GFE and taking my time. But I'm covering everything!
I'm draweling a line cause so far what I have observed the guys don't...

If you frequently get gum sores you should just play it safe, and protect yourself.  You can always be sure your clean, but how can you really know that a client is, if all he will accept is a bbbj??  There are a lot of diseases you can catch when you have open sores, wheather in your mouth or on your hands.  I think that as long as you give your best and the gentleman is feeling like its part of a play by play than you'll be fine.  

CBJ only will turn some away.  But I agree that you should do only what you're comfy with and there are several very successful providers who only do CBJ.

As far as the GFE, it has long been debated that BBBJ is a standard in GFE and I agree with that.  As a GFE the gent's I see who are GFE enthusiasts are looking for DFK and BBBJ as a number 1a and 1b.  It is my opinion that those two attributes are the part of a menu that makes GFE a GFE.

Now I know a lot of folks debate this endlessly and I respect their opinions, their work and work ethic.  There are a ton of girls who really know what they are doing and can make a man feel sensational regardless.  Yet, bbbj is a checklist item on GFE IMO, and therefore CBJ is not GFE in my mind.

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The thought of kissing anyone who hasn't brushed or gargled since the last is disgusting period - regardless of the menu.  I KNOW you brush your  teeth in between and am not taking your post to task but someone providing BBBJ is not necessarily more disgusting than any other provider solely based on that IMO.  But EW!  EricaStone

LOL I completely agree.  And I wasn't attempting to call out any ladies.  All the ladies I have duo'd with that provider bbbj, have either brought tooth brushes with them, or had them ready in their incall.

I don't find any lady that does bbbj gross, or any gentlemen who takes part in them disgusting.  I was more or less saying it's not for me and the thought of snowballing other people's seaman OMGOSH.  LMFAO.  

I understand where you are coming from though Erica  And anyone who doesn't brush after condom licking is just as no bueno LOL.

I agree with protecting myself. I don't get any gum sores at all . I have white teeth and they are all good but my gum recedes a little. No sores here though! I wish I knew how to post a face picture. I am grinning in my pic and you can even see I have nice teeth but my gums recede sometimes.

Your message saddens me girl!  I am also a fellow provider and I have never done BBBJ because of my personal knowledge of STD's, AIDS, & HIV.  I have never had a guy who complained about my BJ... most think I do such a good job it feels just as good!  I personally think you need to educate yourself on STD's.  I know I am a safe girl but I still have a lot of freakin fun with my guys.  I could not imagine feeling like I would need to go to the clinic the next day all because I did a BBBJ.  If you are giving BBBJ you might as well do it raw everywhere else and get birth control.  It is the same difference.  You can get chlamydia from oral and everything else!  Read up girl... it ain't about your gums hurting.  STD's live in your throat too!  As a Provider, even if you are safe you are high risk for AIDS, HIV, and STD's.  I can't even count the guys I've been with nor keep record... so why would I want to chance it.... that's a hell of a big percentage higher than the average married couple's chances.   Hobbiest may complain... but if you believe everything you will fall for anything girl!  Yeah they complain up until I'm in action... all I hear is moaning and deeper and faster!  LMAO! I'm not trying to be mean sweet heart and I'm glad your culture results came back clean!  I just personally like to have clean & safe kinky fun!

Re: miss_lace, Reagarding Your Photo... Re: Protect yourself

Hey, Thank you! I know how to do this now!

I agree with AmazingAurelia completely.  As a long-time, sporadic hobbyist, I am extremely uncomfortable with obviously risky (from a health perspective) behavior on the part of a provider.  If a BBBJ isn't a death wish, it is at least a pain and suffering chance I prefer not to take.  If you want BBBJ, etc., try a monogamous relationship with a willing partner.  Spread love not germs.

all your yrs of sexuality? OMG give me a break. All your yrs of civvie sex you mean to say.

You entered this biz one yr ago or less...you have 6 reviews and now you are an expert on whats safe and whats not?
Civvie sex is a whole different world from this.
Yes you can catch the same deseases, just less partners involved so there is less risk.  
Thats not an educated fact, that Robbin is your preference your comfort level and YOUR OPINION.

True we all need to find whats our own level of comfort and so on, but its opinion based where your view is concerned.
Do your research, yes it is not completely safe, but no sexual contact is 100% safe covered or not. Herpes can be passed with a cover as well.

Read all you can on deseases and so on and draw your own conclussion. The value of ones opinion needs to be judged on what is motivating their opinion.  Is it to bolster their own promotion, or are they listing actual fact and research they base their views on. This case its another promotional attempt but be your own judge.

what one Lady has another does not.
I am selling time with "ME".
Not the same thing another Lady has but covered or uncovered.
It's about spending time with a particular woman and none of us are alike so how could that be competition.
Variety is the spice of life. Thats just rediculous to assume we all need to be alike to compete. One Lady may draw you in with her eyes, her sinful way, while another its her smile a bit naughty and inviting.  We are woman for cryin out loud, not crap piled on the weekly sales shelf at your local market.
What draws you to one Lady may not draw you to another.  Its all preference.  There is a variety for everyones tastes and desires. No competition needed.

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absolutely draw the line hon. Agree  

you notice its a guy who says, we need to go the extra mile.  Thats his dick doing the talking there.  He doesn't care about your health, and for all you know he could be infected with something already.
You need to think of your best interest and whats best for you alone. They will see you or they won't. Thats their choice.