For those of you that can't tear yourself away from this great board (hurts arm patting himself on the back), I felt it important to see that there's a thread on the GD board about TER considering changing it's stance on bareback discussions.  Now, before you "go there", please lets not have that discussion on this thread.  Feel free to start another or participate on the GD one (beware, it's long already)

For the purposes of having a good train wreck, how about a twist on the old standard BBFS discussion?  Ladies, do you?  Would you?  If so, under what conditions?  Guys, are you interested in it?  Under what circumstances?  For either side, would you be more or less likely to see someone that you knew had participated in this manner?

OK, now HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART!!!!  Due to the nature of the discussion, aliases MUST be used on this thread.  Anyone using their real fake name will have their posts pulled.  For those that aren't VIP, it's cheap, lol.  Oh, I'll be away from the boards for a bit later, so can someone please leave some popcorn near my chimney???

No, never, forget it, don't bother. Did I say no? I meant NO.

I have no idea why anyone in THIS part of my life would get BBFS when people in my private life don't get it (assuming I'm not in a long-term relationship where both parties are tested frequently).

This is the craziest thing I've ever heard. I am not putting my health at risk here. The chance of getting diseases increases exponentially with all of the partners that each has if we all decided to just BBFS all day.

There is the CDC with health messages pounded into our head daily about the risks associated with unprotected sex and that's just within a group of people that probably does NOT have the amount of intimate encounters that this group has.

To promote this behavior is unsafe, dangerous and very, very reckless. Shame on whoever thought of this.

Oh, and let me read one single review where a man has seen someone BBFS and he won't be seeing me. Take that as FACT.

already than anyone would want to admit.

Anyone that's doing this is already taking some HUGE risks (legal, health, financial, etc).  If people want to take more risk, to each his (or her) own.  

Now, I think I'll call my stock broker and tell him to move all of my retirement stocks into some company that does STD testing.

Doing BB in this hobby is totally unacceptable.Its nasty and I cant believe its even thought of.For Ter to put it out there i thank them,All it does is help me pick out who to see and who not to see.And what females are giving up raw coochie.

Yelp. It is mind boggling how much it goes on. Do a google search for "bbfs escort" or "bbfs provider", etc. You mind will be blown. If I found out a provider was doing bbfs will not book to see her. Some of them are very attractive women. We have a big problem back on the east coast with a bbfs epidemic. There have been STD outbreaks in the internet hobby community where I live. One year it got so bad that many guys took a 6 to 1 year (2006/2007) break like the do when a porn star comes down with HIV. Many guys and ladies who were exposed had to quit the hobby. One thing about bbfs is that guys talk. They tell one of their buddies and it gets posted on special websites and and talked about at various happy hour etc.

Someone could set up a fulltime company to do bbfs investigations on the net and could easily employ a few people to build a bbfs database. It would take years to visit all the sites of providers who offer bbfs.

People in the hobby act as if NO ONE HERE IS RAW DOGGING. Ummm announcement.......people bareback. Providers go on tour and don't have a single condom anywhere in their possession. They work non-stop...someone is fucking them....RAW! They are not allergic to anything except reality.

The only thing people can do who are not delusional....is to take care of ourselves.....be your own best advocate and wrap that cock up!!!

Frankly I question the ongoing validity of TER as a whole. Anyone at any time can get their panties in a knot and write a fake alias bbfs review of a provider who REALLY does not participate in the skin to skin play and then what?

I am 100% in support of allowing discussions of bareback and having bareback reviews...bc I wanna know who is nasty...but this is not going to work out very well bc TER also continues to allow alias reviews...I get it that reviews are fantasies...but for many ladies and gents barebacking at work or while hobbying would be a nightmare not a fantasy.  

Reviews are instruments potential clients rely on when they are deciding if a particular lady is going to be a good fit (pun intended)....long gone is the remote possibility that a review is a legitimate review....why review...why pay into a system which has a self inflicted foundational flaw?

The only thing an alias bbfs review will do is to further send the site's entire mission statement down the toilet....why read or rely on any reviews for anything if anyone can say anything for any reason?

smh...........

The most important thing to me is health over $ any time. I will not see anyone that is known to participate in such risky behavior. I had a condom break once and it scared the hell out of me. I got tested and I am fine but I was terrified until the results were in. I know now that the condom broke due to being dry. So lube it up when it's need ladies and gents!

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Despite what many claim a number of ladies will do this especially with long standing regulars.  Very few will actually advertise or admit it especially on the boards because they don't want to be pressured by obnoxious clients.

The general hysteria about disease is over hyped.  HIV is extremely rare and more likely to be contagious with unprotected anal than regular BB vaginal.  All of the other stds can be transmitted with or without a condom just from skin to skin or fluids.  Pregnancy, well that's another problem.

It's available a lot more than many admit. I have seen ladies who offer it and who post on this board!

Lately a number of the ladies I've been with use female condoms. Yes, there are issues using FC's but it's as close to bbfs as I want. I'm bare, the lady is wrapped and it feels pretty dam good.  I've read the GD thread and I'm still trying to figure out how I feel over this. While the bbfs  issue is way more serious, I've been thru "new ter", "alias review", "regional ad boards" changes and I even go back to when the cheap pricks (non vip members) could see an escorts entire ter profile (including scores) with the exception of the juicy details.  All of these changes had people howling the demise of TER and threatening to walk from TER.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out, and I'm not sure how it will effect my hobbying.

Would never ask for it nor see any provider that would offer it.  I would onky expext BBFS if I ws in a committed relationship.  My 2¢.

To answer Phil's questions, no I am not interested in it. The only circumstance where I would be interested is if I married a provider and she retired from providing. I would be less likely to see someone if I knew she provided it.

On another note, many people are coming on saying that it is much more prevalent than people think. I am not denying that because I don't know, but I can say that in 30 years of hobbying (from streetwalkers to massage girls to escorts) I was offered it exaclty once (in 1989). Never recently. Maybe it is a regional thing if it is supposedely getting more common recently?

The first time was when I shredded to condom. I washed myself off and took it in stride. The second time the lady let me hit it raw without asking. There were no drip, no runs, so no error.With this survey saying that 45% want BBFS I'm going to decline further offers. Not doing so in light of this knowledge is reckless.

Do you all really believe the numbers on the poll? I find it hard to believe. Obviously there are poeple who want the service, but it is hard to believe the numbers. When the poll was first posted the numbers leaned heavily toward "no f'ing way." Now it is the other way. I myself voted in that stupid poll at least ten times. How accurate can it be? Polls lie.

and so little accurate understanding.

The risks of unprotected sex often far outweigh the rewards. Though the temptation to skip the condom or other form of protection can be great, especially in the heat of the moment, the risk of getting an incurable disease or pregnancy should always come to mind when choosing to have unprotected sex. The risks of unprotected sex range from the mildly embarrassing to the completely life changing.

You can contract a wide range of diseases when you have unprotected sex. While some diseases are curable, others are not. Some sexually transmitted diseases do not have any symptoms, especially in men, so you may have a sexually transmitted disease (STD) and not know it, putting any partners at risk when you have unprotected sex with them. Examples of treatable STDs from unprotected sex include gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis.

Other risks of unprotected sex include invasions of scabies or crabs. Scabies are small mites that burrow into the skin, laying eggs. Crabs are a type of  head lice found in the pubic area. Both are spread through sexual contact. Fortunately, both can be treated, often with an over the counter ointment. Any clothing and bedding should be washed to kill the mites or lice.
Major risks of unprotected sex include pregnancy and incurable STDs, such as herpes or HIV. Although both HIV and herpes can be controlled well with certain medications, contracting either means being on medication for the rest of your life and being responsible for telling any future partners about your condition before they agree to sleep with you.
Even if a woman decides not to keep her baby, getting pregnant can be a life changing experience. Choosing to get an abortion or put a child up for adoption can be emotionally trying. Keeping the baby and becoming a parent has both rewards and trials.  It can be financially challenging as well as emotionally difficult.

Now enough with the BS making it sound like this is common and that every other provider offers BBFS.
Enough with the BS,  I will not see a client who partakes in BBFS.
HELLOOOOOOOOO  Do you not think you are already seeing clients who partake in BBFS in their personal life with wife , mistress, gf, one night stand from bar , whatever whoever
Enough with the BS, I will not see a provider who partakes in BBFS. If a provider is in a relationship ( in her private life ) she may ( or may not ) be already having BBFS.
Yes more partners , more risk . But it takes only ONE person to get a STD or Pregnant.

Don't care what survey says - People LIE .Maybe some people were just trying to f*ck with results.
Since when is everything we read on the net TRUE !?!?!?

"For ter to put it out there I thank them.All it does is help me pick out who to see and who not to see. And what females are giving up raw coochie"

Really ? How do you know the reviewer is telling the truth ? because he said so ?


Bottom Line - NO GLOVE , NO BBFS LOVE

Below is a link to my suggestion posted the main thread on the GD Board. Allure, I can say without a doubt we are on the same page and I agree with you. My post will explain why.

Flipping disgusting just thinking about it.....

I would never do BBFS. Very dangerous and very risky!

How can I find out about these providers? Any names? I would never pressure anybody, by the way. I can take 'no' for an answer.