I hope this thread gets posted.  It is not a thread to flame or upset anyone but rather a post of my frustration with the providers of Vegas.  I decided on a pleasure trip to Vegas this time around wanting to see 5 different ladies.  I made a post earlier on this board and Phx board about suggestions and I had a few of my own. I made contact by email and phone messages over a week in advance with good verifiable references.  This is what happened:
Nikki Avalon- sent her an email with all the info.  Called her two days later and she answered.  I introduced myself and said that I had sent her an email and I wanted to know if she was available.  She hesitated for a long while on the phone as if  she was put off by me calling at that time and said she would check the email and get back to me.  I never heard back and didn't follow up with her because she was curt and I didn't want to spend time with someone who has that type of attitude.  I guess Nikki has it too good according to her ratings because she certainly seemed too good to give me the time of day.
Arianna - about three years ago, she came out to Phx for T-giving and I had set an appt with her. The day of the appt she called me and accused me of being LE because of a LE presence outside her room in the parking lot of her hotel.  I assured her I wasn't and gave her my REAL NAME and work number that she could call and verify with the receptionist.  She did and still refused citing that she was all uptight and couldn't get into the mindset for a session. As dissappointed as I was, I let it go.  This time, I made contact by email and called her number but the number was disconnected.  She actually replied back to my email on my second email I sent her and she said she could see me.  I sent all my info again and even more info and had a date and time in mind.  I called her several times when in Vegas, never heard from her at all.  I don't have  a concluding comment on here except there won't be a "third time".
Ashley - (of Spokane) I emailed her and made contact by phone.  Now she was nice enough to call back and I spoke to her the day of appt. This was  at mid morning and I asked her for a 3pm appt. She said ok but more like 3:30.  I said ok. She called me at 4:05 and says that she is running late and wanted to see if that would be ok. I had told her earlier on the phone I had dinner plans with friends at 5:30 and that anytime after 4 would not be good.  She said well call me later then if you would like.  No thanks
Kitty- She actually responded to my email and followed up with a phone call.  I was actually getting somewhere.  I got to my room and she confirmed with me to meet her at the Valet.  It was supposed to be for a 5pm appt. She gets there at 5:15pm and we had a nice conversation  but I had plans at 6:30 pm and was running out of time.  Needless to say, was not FS and she cited that an hour was not enough time anyway. Nice girl, definitely not worth the XXXX.  More details to follow in the review I leave.
I'm not sure this will get posted, but in case this does, I know that hobbyist can be flakey.  I also understand that things come up for providers and that you providers have a life as well. It is overall just common courtesy to RESPOND to a voice mail and/ or email message.  It is not like I live in Vegas and aside from me seeing some friends, my whole trip there was to make some new provider relationships for any future trips there. I have no comment for those who did respond other than it isn't polite to set false expectations.  Thanks Vegas for not such a great time in your community.  Glad that the ladies in the Phx community are kind, courteous, responsive and beautiful women who do love what they do.  One great thing I am taking away from this experience is how much I do appreciate all the fine wonderful ladies of AZ both indies and the four reputable agencies.  I encourage some hobbyist from Vegas to check out the Phx community. PM me at and I can very easily refer you to a MINIMUM of 12 fantastic, gorgeous women who are extremely polite, intelligent, and never dissappointing from the Phx community.

-- Modified on 12/21/2005 2:35:28 PM

I hesitated for a long while on the phone? Perhaps I was masturbating...my bad. I apologize for seeming curt but you obviously caught me at a bad time. There are three likely reasons for me not getting back to you.
1. You didn't submit my appointment form as I had requested.
2. I didn't have the time to see you.
3. The universe protects me from people like you.

Your post was obviously intended to shame those providers who had the colossal gaul of not being available to please your royal highness. I'll speak for myself and all the ladies mentioned, "You've failed".
If it's any consolation, your exhaustively detailed post did inflict a few jaw-breaking yawns though.

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Sorry, you had a bad experience...DeeDee from Phx is there, I know she would have seen you.
Hope the rest of trip went well...Hope to see you soon...been looking forward to it.
Have a Merry Christman & a Great New Year.
hugs and kisses
Terri

You are being kinda picky .
So a lady wants to take a longer vacation ( time off ) then she had planned ...........she didn't have an appointment booked with you , she doesn't have to call you to let you know her daily plan of life . You may have been one in another thousands who tried to book an appointment ..........she doesn't have to call each guy back . She left a message on her phone . She is not available ......... so move on.


ALSO maybe out of discretion she didn't call you back . If I can't call a guy right back and he doesn't leave a message when it is ok to call , I may not call him the next day ( or any day later )  because maybe at that time he is with his wife/family/boss/...........you get the picture  !!


So you got a lady on the phone and she seemed hesitated .............. maybe you called at a bad time . Maybe she thought you were someone else cause she was caught off guard by your phone call and she was trying to remember.... do I know this guy ? maybe her brain was trying to remember which one was his email .......so she seemed distracted ......... So she said she would get back to you , but didn't, so she was already booked and busy between work and her own life  BUT she didn't book anything with you , she didn't flake on you  ....... oh well move on .


Sometimes guys don't realize it but they do stuff that makes us feel maybe LE . So maybe one moment a guy is making me feel comfortable that he is legit , then the next moment he does something to make me think he is LE ...........well better safe then sorry . but she let you know how she felt  and cancelled .........yeah so what  guys cancel on us all the time . .....move on.

I tell my clients I am never on time to my appointments ........  I will be 10 minutes early or I will be 10 minutes late . You never know how much traffic there is / accidents / road work  , how busy the strip is and a 15 minute drive can turn into half an hour . so 15 minutes isn't late . Not quite clear on if you had a 6:30 dinner how her being there at 5:00 pm would make a difference .........you still don't have a 2 hour time frame .


So sometimes schedules get messed up but at least the lady called to let you know .
She didn't flake on you , she didn't no show no call ........she called to let you know and she tried to reschedule , you were not flexible ..............guys call me at times to reschedule and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't . Does that mean they are jerks or bad clients ? no , things happen ..........but they called to let me know so that is ok . Now if they book an appointment , but don't call   to say they can't make it  ......................then there is a reason to get mad . So do you get the picture ??

Chill dude it isn't the end of the world . no one here ripped you off or flaked  on you

oh and also sometimes emails get lost in space or a voice  message doesn't go through or they sound destroyed or broken up where you can't understand the phone number ......so many reasons why maybe you didn't get a respond .
No respond ?? move on ..........a long list( more then 12 ) of great ladies to try to reach .

Sorry you felt such a disappointment in our LV  community , maybe if you look deeper and lighten up a bit you won't be so disappointed .  

Wishing you a fun and Happy Holiday Season .
xoxo CindySpice                                                                                            

Maybe next time, should there be one, you should plan on doing some sight-seeing. May I recommend Red Rock Canyon, or Bonnie Springs (they have actual wild west hangings there I know you would enjoy), The Valley of Fire, Boulder Dam (oh crap you prolly drove right through that), and ther is the 215 Beltway. There you can get a magnificent veiw of our beautiful city day or evening going around in a circles.

Lots of fun things to do. In any event I further recommend that you might consider just staying away from all our fine providers of Sin City, or keep your pompus ass home where every girl in town loves you.

Finally, no thank you on your list of 12 hotties from Phoenix. Don't need the help. I have always done very well in the Valey of the Sun. Never a problem. Been there and done that. Anyone with 2 reviews had got to be a tremendous resourse. I'll be careful though in any future trips and not ever bash the entire provider community of ...... where is it your from? I forget...

Sorry, I provided you with some names. Kitty I apologize to you. An apoloogy also goes out to Tamara, Nikki, Arriana as well.

-- Modified on 12/15/2005 5:38:52 AM

Overall I'm glad you posted, we need to hear the bad with the good around here.  A little more politeness wouldn't have hurt, though.  You attacked a board favorite so expect to get attacked back.

Your experience is not that unusual.  I have often used the numbers of 50% chance your initial e-mail will be responded to, 60-70% chance the provider will show up, of those 60-70% will show up on time.  Some providers will be much better than those numbers, some worse.

Your experience would probably have been better if you hadn't scheduled things so tightly sandwiched around dinner engagements, etc.  That was asking for trouble, in this world things rarely run on time.  Hope your next experience is better.

Thank goodness the iceman is not one of my friends. I would have to question my value system if he were.

I plan on seeing Siegfried and Roy.  Thanks for your other sight seeing recommendations.  Also, I will probably utulize some of the pros who were working the Casino.  They seemed much more entertaining than your provider recommendations.  As far as my 2 reviews, I don't leave reviews about what happens BCD. Its a personal thing. I didn't bash anyone...sometimes the truth hurts. Glad to see that you feel sorry however it is an apathetic attempt I'm sure.

Dude, from what I gather from your post, one provider never responded to your inquiries (perhaps she was on vacation and didn't want to be bothered, you think that that could be a possibility?) two of them probably didn't feel comfortable seeing you (which is their perogative, yes?) and two of them were willing to see you and just weren't able to accommodate the time (which is not their fault).  Geez, give them (and LV) a break.

Iceman,

I understand your frustration. I have had similar experiences with some providers but have been hesitant to voice my frustration for fear of alienating some of the ladies out there.
My last trip to Vegas I contacted six providers with
trip date/time and any requested screening info.
Two responded prior to my trip(both were away in PHX whats up with that?). Two responded well after my trip and two did not do me the cortesy of a reply. I beleive my calls/emails are made in a very discreet and polite manner well withing the guidelines I have learned from the participants of this board.

I would ask the ladies who post here to please give us some advice as to how to avoid this frustration??

Ladies, please help us out.

The TER police aren't censors.

Unlike Nikki, I'll try to be more constructive.  In her defense, I wasn't called out as a provider of bad service.  Las Vegas gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40 million visitors annually, many of whom hire someone for personal companionship.  The flake percentage here is pretty high, on both sides.  That's an unfortunate fact, but a fact nonetheless.  You did have some backup names, which is a must when visiting.  But that's not a guarantee.  Tamara is apparently taking time off, to which she is entitled.  While you're on vacation or out sick from work, how many messages do you return?  At least she left an updated message on her phone.  Nikki Avalon is probably the busiest lady in LV.  I've seen her, been out with her socially and know stuff about her personal side.  She's tough to reach sometimes, and she's either worth that to you or not.  To me, she's worth it.  That's no different than arguing about what a lady charges.  If you don't like it, don't go.  As for Arianna, my experience was quite different.  Maybe it's you, maybe it's me, or maybe it's just bad luck.  Just a Vegas thing.  Don't know Ashley, but people are late all the time.  If you've scheduled something in a tight time frame with a provider, you'll likely be disappointed.  Sounds like Kitty worked out the same way, for the same reason.  My dealings with her, and info from friends that have seen her tells a different story.

So, since you batted 0.5 for 5, I can understand your frustration.  Maybe you need to do more homework before the trip.  You had 5 lined up in your mind, but really only were confirmed with Ashley and Kitty, and saw one of them.  You pulled your request for info on this board before your trip, and posted it in Phoenix instead.  If I was headed to your town, I'd ask the people there for help...not the people here.  Hopefully, once you've digested all of the info, you'll learn a thing or two and do better next time.  Please understand that like Phoenix, we are a community, and we protect our own.  You've taken what amounts to some cheap shots at some of our friends, and we're going to respond.  But at the end of the day, if you behave like a gentleman, some of the ladies here will reward you beyond your wildest dreams.

You're call...it's a gamble.  We do that here.  Good luck

No name calling here but I do have several observations for future reference.

1. You started over a week in advance?? Man I don't know about you but it seems to me that if I were visiting a city like Las Vegas where I knew that there are a relatively limited (compared to the tourist population) number of "quality providers", that I ought to plan further in advance.
2. The law of supply and demand is a very constant and finite thing in Vegas.
3. If I was coming to Vegas and I wanted to be sure I would have started research and communication far sooner than you did.
4. If you have a last minute thing to Vegas, you have to expect that you will have a good bit of trouble landing exactly who you want unless you get very, very lucky.
5. The ladies of Vegas have always tried, IMHO, to get info back as soon as possible....but man they are busy....and thats good for them.
6. If you don't get a response it probably means that they are booked and don't have the time to respond.

A note: Vegas is not like any other city in the US. Because it is a high demand city you can expect that you have to plan in advance. If you can't you have to take what you can get. Simple as that.

I hope that you take this advice as it is intended. You will find that with proper planning that you will get your wishes...even in Vegas.

You owe those ladies an apology for your short-sightedness

So THATS who called while We were having phone sex and made me lose my momentum?
Dammit!
tut tut.....see what you interrupted, buddy?
I was all nice and soapy in the tub, thinking of Nikkis kisses....and all of a sudden..."hang on a sec, Ive got a beep"
*L* hey hun, great reply

post.  I appreciate your well thought out response and I feel your comments are constructive and I receive them.  I actually wanted to see all 5 girls and knew the possibility of that not happening. I guess my expectations were too high.  An eamil back or a phone call back would have been great.  An email back saying that the dates worked and then not respond is not cool.  I pulled my request from the Vegas board because no one answered and I knew some folks from Phx who have visited Vegas and posted there.  I did not take cheap shots.  I posted the truth about my experience in your community. Your response I appreciate. I was a gentleman in my email and phone calls and a little common courtesy is not a hard thing to ask for.
Thanks again    
blue_iceman001

A long winded way of slamming Vegas providers and touting those in Phoenix, with a twist of "contact me" and I'll steer you in the right direction. Have played in both cities, both have their pros and cons.

Trying to jam a one hour escort appointment in front of other "plans" in a somewhat last minute fashion( trying to schedule a week in advance in Vegas may work sometimes, but more likely not) probably wasn't/isn't a good idea. A little more time reading this board and researching the best way to "play" in Vegas probably would have served you better. MfSD>>>>

Hell, it sounds like you won't even come back.

Here's my slug nickel for thoughts:

1) If you're gonna be pressed for time, it helps looking for providers who have good reps for being on-time.  My personal perception of the experience  here is that if you can't put in a lot of leeway in your schedule for quality time with a well reviewed provider here, well, you're shooting blanks.

2) There are some quality providers that can keep to schedule but they're a bitch to find.

3) Going the bar girl route is the lower percentage and higher cost route in many cases.  Nothing wrong with that but I won't pay that premium.  Besides, nagging tends to make my dick curl up and become an innie.

4) Penn & Teller put on a better show .  Blue Man was good when it was at the Luxor but I haven't caught it at Venetian yet.  And Mamma Mia is good if you like ABBA songs.

Bob

Are`nt you guys glad the NERD ALERT worked on your phones..?? Great investment..

dead all over the city.  lv2daty..who must think he isn't a nerd for saying that, hmmm maybe a dork. LOL.

JT

Iceman, I think that is your problem...you are too cold to get anywhere in a class town, with class providers like Las Vegas.  I have found that the ladies of Las Vegas to very polite, intelligent, and accomodating.  Iceman, adjust your attitude and maybe you will have a better time on your next visit to Las Vegas.  And as for disrespecting individual ladies on your post, all I can say is that is very RUDE and shows everyone the totally arrogant, immature, and foolish person your truly are.

While I understand your frustration. You should realise the world is not perfect. I have seen 3 of your LV attempted contacts and have had very nice times with all and especially NIKKI! What did you in, is your ridged time demands as well as might I say, your attitude. While in Vegas you have to roll with the flow. Sure I too have had some sched. changes ect, but I never would flame the person...I would try to understand the business and let the water roll off my shoulder. Your lucky you live so close to LV and can try again, thats what I would advise, with more flexability in the future. And also an apoligy to these fine women who put up with our strange ways...PS Isnt blueice what falls off airplanes as they fly real high?

Las Vegas is probably one of hardest cities to hobby in if you want same day appointments I understand the frustration of this guy and because i generally like to book on impulse it is not a city for me. I understand the supply and demand curve and choose not particpate It's not the providers fault; it's the nature of the market. That said if there are any providers that take same day clients please speak up.