I was in LV recently. My experience and a few questions below.
Escorts
I contacted and saw 6 escorts who responded to appoints made by me based on ads (CV, RB ...). In each case the person I talked to swore up and down that she was the person or I would be seeing the person pictured in the ads. In all 6 cases this was a lie. I rejected them all. In all cases the pics were of a totally different person. By the end of the day I was pleading with the scheduler not to send a lady on a wild goose case because I had already rejected ladies earlier in the day. They still set a different lady. Whom I promptly rejected.
This is the result I expected. I was surprised that they still did it after I pleaded with them not to, telling them I had already rejected ladies earlier in the day. One agency sent the first lady which I rejected. They then sent another without telling me who I again rejected. Later in the day they had the gall to call me and tell me they would now send the lady in the pics if I wanted them to. Do they think we are all stupid or just to horny and drunk we won't care. I guess they are right in enough cases to make it profitable to do so.
So why didn't I use a TER reviewed lady? Because given I can't take full advantage of the escort experience due to my age (I assume. I suppose I should try viagra. Does it really work?), it is just not worth it for barely more than a strip club experience. Better to just do the strip club thing. Which doesn't go quite far enough but it's a lot less expensive and much closer to what I can actually take advantage of.
Strip Club Experience
I paid 5-6 very attractive ladies a combined ~$200 for ~10 lap dances. Even though I dropped hints that I would like to take one or two "home" with me nobody took me up on my offer (imagine that). The ladies I paid all included touching for $20. Because I enjoyed the touching so much I did two dances with everyone ($40) each.
3-4 other ladies said the touching would cost $30-40. They all ended up with nothing from me. Now given that all of the ladies were standing around 90% of the time this seemed like a dumb pricing strategy to me. Especially given the fact that the club has a public ally stated policy of $20 for all dances. The marketing message here is give the customer a lot for the money and he will spend more time/money on you. You will end up making more than if you try to charge a higher price for your services.
Now if you are already working as many hours as you want then keeping your price high is a valid strategy. However, if you have time to accept more work then maybe one should simply provide more value. One the other hand, maybe escorting is so much more physically demanding than striping it takes a real toll on a lady to work a lot of hours.
Questions for Providers
How many of you are working as many hours as you want?
How many hours a week does a typical escort work?
Is it really hard on your body to work longer hours?
Is having sex a lot more physically demanding than striping for a lady?
How do you price your services? Maximize your business or maintain your self image (i.e. "I deserve it")?
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I thought you were looking for a non-pro
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=109814&boardID=3&page=2
Strippers make good $ in Vegas and most will not take your "hint" cuz they are simply not interested others may think about it if you tip them well...getting a $20 lap dance and not tipping them takes you nowhere.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=109814&boardID=3&page=2
Strippers make good $ in Vegas and most will not take your "hint" cuz they are simply not interested others may think about it if you tip them well...getting a $20 lap dance and not tipping them takes you nowhere.
in Las Vegas that is why TER is so important so you know what you are dealing with.In Las Vegas especially the places you looked there are alot of bait and switch ads which are not an actual representation of the lady that will show up at your door.If you do not like a lady they will keep sending you ladies even if not requested.Alot of people get sucked in to going to the strip club and they pay for dances get all worked up and then want company later,but spent almost all of their money in the strip clubs.If you spend $200 at the strip clubs you might as well spend that or add a little bit more and have a nice lady come to your room.Stick with TER reviewed ladies then you will not have that problem you said you wanted a semi-pro kind of under the radar,but all that happened is you called a bunch of agencies and they wasted your time.I just do not understand this logic come on TER do not look for the ladies on here and go with fake ads and then come back to the boards to tell about the bad experience.
In my 8 years experience in LV the hobby has really deteriorated. Mainly due to the 3-4 main escort agencies in town, yes there's only like 3 to 4 "owners" of all the agencies, crowding out and intimidating independents. They are in cahoots with LE as the state receives no $ from taxes on independents. So you go to any advertising board(BP, CV, etc) and its chuck loaded with BS ads that are just scams. Any independents that try to undercut the competition are quickly focused in on by the agencies and LE. Its the truth as I have had lady friends tell me first hand experiences about this.
Vegas is terrible place to hobby unless you wanna shell out alot of money. There are some good providers but it takes research. Men come here, away from the wifey and willing to spend more than what they would back home and also the town is flowing with alcohol and gambling inhibiting judgment. I have a couple regs but anymore I hobby in other cities on vacation. Don't even bother with LV. Too many scams and I'm not gonna pay an agency.
Just my 2 copper
Sure, there are traps, but there are also gems abound. I won't be a name dropper, but I've never had any horrible experiences in LV, and only a couple that were just so-so.
I'm in Vegas a few times a year. Never have a problem. I do my homework/research, contact the lady in advance of my business trip. I'm usually in town for a few days, so I do have some flexibility in scheduling. Then I ditch my business associates and have a great time. Here's a hint, check out the LV new reviews, it's an starting point when looking for a lady to see in Vegas.
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I use to go to Vegas twice a year, I would check out, who I wanted to see, contact them, set it up, get laid, then pay them. easy. Why make things so hard for yourself?
You go from wanting to drop up to $300-1K on a lady, but wanting a "non-pro", to calling a bunch of non-reviewed girls that you KNEW were going to be BS, to going to a GC because "you can't take advantage" (but still offering stripper takeout), to wanting to conduct a survey on the board (and implying that prices are too high).
Here's the world's smallest violin, and let me tell you the deal: nobody cares that you think that the local talent in Vegas is too expensive (which is what is being telegraphed in your posts, about as subtle as a flashing neon sign). Either pay it, or don't (for most places, you can get a less expensive good time than in Vegas). But what you're doing is just stupid, and if you aren't interested in the advice we're giving you on how to cope with the locals, quit wasting our time.
I don't think I am under any obligation to only post on subjects that you think are interesting. Providers and hobbyists are allowed to think once and a while. Most of us have more than one body part we like to make use of.
I am interested in the economics of the industry. I do that now and again. I ask myself why things are the way they are. I noticed an interesting pricing model working in the strip club and I was wondering if similar issues exists in escort space. For example: I was wondering if providers are maximizing for revenue or free time (or something else).
If these kind a questions don't interest you then don't read them and above all don't waste your time responding. I really don't care if you don't care.