Fingers inside are a no-no.Touching in certain areas is okay but fingers inside not good for me.
The reason being is that like another provider mentioned that unfortunately a lot of guys do not understand their hands are dirty especially under their fingernails.
You can only imagine how many germs you pick up on your hands you opened the door,picked up the remote,elevators,door keys,etc.Many guys don't think this in to account and figure I took a shower I am good to go.
I wouldn't equate bbfs to fiv however ISC you make a good point about tears and cuts around your cuticles.
I wouldn't mind if someone used those COTS things you mentioned that is the first time I have even seen anything like that.
Hang nails yikes had one and it was painful and after that I said no more fingers.
Do what is comfortable for you if FIV is not your thing don't do it or use the COTS if she really wants a finger or two.
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OK, every so often I book a date, we're having a great time, i'm in the middle of the warm up phase, right before starting the big event, i got a mouthful of fun i'm working with when all of a sudden she begs, "please put some fingers in", and I'm like, "errrr, I don't like to do that", and the mood is killed.
Now as I've been doing this for a few years now, i've worked that "issue" into my "5 minute introductory talk" about boundaries and preferences. Now my little "pig sack" of accessories contains "COTS" (see photo below). Still I want to know, "Why is FIV not considered bareback sex"?
As I understand it, one of the reasons why bareback sex is so risky is because intercourse causes "micro-fractures" in the penis that the HIV virus can travel through from the bloodstream. Now I have several tears in my cuticles that compared to a micro fracture are "grand canyons" of openings in the skin. Some of them have minor bleeding. It seems to me that that is more risky than inserting my penis. In my opinion, just because it is not a penis, inserting any body part with out a cover should be considered bareback sex.
And on top of that, how about hang nails, those little pointy things that stick out the side of the cuciles and un manicured finer nails? Don't they scratch the inside? And aren't hands the dirtiest body part of the body?
Please help me understand this apparent contradiction; well, apparent at least to me
You never fail to crack me up, Craps, Ol' Buddy!! But I'd sell A LOT more popcorn if you'd have posted this on the GD board!
http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/154495/HIV-through-fingering-a-Vagina
http://www.cpha.ca/en/portals/hiv/fundamentals/transmission/s02.aspx
http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/prevention/reduce-your-risk/sexual-risk-factors/
So in answer to your question, yes there is a risk, but a very small one
yet, are you a daty kinda guy?I would say more concern there.. always use your best judgement..
thanks for starting my morning on a touchy subject..lol
just kidding..
have great day
xoxo Lorena
I agree with you darlin. You never know how clean someone's nails are or if there are sharp edges…
Plus the comment on cuts and little tears on the cuticles is fair enough too…
Best to be safe than sorry!!!
I totally respect that you choose to do what you do how you do it!!!
FIV just isn't my thing. I don't mind using my finger (slowly) in and around those”sensitives” places, and maybe slightly in,of course my fingers must be moist or lube lightly, But fingers, be it 1 or 2 totally inserted, just seems so Jr High...you know when guys use to say “ yeah I finger banged her in the bleachers” (need to use your dumb jock voice). I dunno maybe it's me.
If a lady wants to be fingered or fisted, then that's fine..I'll punch her ass out.....lol...only kidding of course.
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My main concern with bareback is that i don't want there to be any chance of seamen getting inside me. Since nothing is shooting out of your fingertips then I don't worry too much about that.
With that being said, I love the fact that you use finger cots. I also am a stickler about clean hands. I am sure i have killed a few moods myself by stopping the makeout session to ask him to go wash his hands. FYI I go into the bathroom when I arrive and check to make sure that the soap has actually been opened and used. Unbelievable how many times the shower and sinks have not been used at all. I'll say, "Did the maid just leave?" And they say "no, she came earlier when I was out." OK, so that guys hands are not going anywhere near me.
So, if your hands are clean and soft, ie your cuticles are not a wreck, then I don't mind being touched everywhere. I actually like it. But, the customer is always right. And if you tell me you don't want to do it then we skip that part altogether. Communication is the key.
Now as I've been doing this for a few years now, i've worked that "issue" into my "5 minute introductory talk" about boundaries and preferences. Now my little "pig sack" of accessories contains "COTS" (see photo below). Still I want to know, "Why is FIV not considered bareback sex"?
As I understand it, one of the reasons why bareback sex is so risky is because intercourse causes "micro-fractures" in the penis that the HIV virus can travel through from the bloodstream. Now I have several tears in my cuticles that compared to a micro fracture are "grand canyons" of openings in the skin. Some of them have minor bleeding. It seems to me that that is more risky than inserting my penis. In my opinion, just because it is not a penis, inserting any body part with out a cover should be considered bareback sex.
And on top of that, how about hang nails, those little pointy things that stick out the side of the cuciles and un manicured finer nails? Don't they scratch the inside? And aren't hands the dirtiest body part of the body?
Please help me understand this apparent contradiction; well, apparent at least to me.
just never have sex again.
Fingers inside are a no-no.Touching in certain areas is okay but fingers inside not good for me.
The reason being is that like another provider mentioned that unfortunately a lot of guys do not understand their hands are dirty especially under their fingernails.
It is a mood killer to ask someone to wash their hands and especially if they just run water over the hands and the soap is dry(happens more than a few times).Nothing worse than to have to ask someone to wash their hands and have to go into a small chat why this question is being asked.
You can only imagine how many germs you pick up on your hands you opened the door,picked up the remote,elevators,door keys,etc.Many guys don't think this in to account and figure I took a shower I am good to go.
I wouldn't equate bbfs to fiv however ISC you make a good point about tears and cuts around your cuticles.
I wouldn't mind if someone used those COTS things you mentioned that is the first time I have even seen anything like that.
Hang nails yikes had one and it was painful and after that I said no more fingers.
Do what is comfortable for you if FIV is not your thing don't do it or use the COTS if she really wants a finger or two.
-- Modified on 2/5/2014 12:41:50 PM
Is that something you think about regardless of who you are with? SO or client? Just curious. If you believe it is common to transmit germs from remotes and doors and keys etc, virtually everything you touch I guess, then that must bother you no matter who you are with sexually, I would guess.
I can't imagine getting frisky with an SO spontaneously and then going 'there'. But if it's in your head, how do you avoid it?
Maybe I'm wondering if you assign more germaphobia to clients than to your personal situation/ SO. Is that a fair way to ask?
Washing hands before the fun should be the norm especially if he wants to venture his fingers down below.
Some ladies are more sensitive than others and maybe some ladies could care less about if a guys hands are clean or not.But I am one who does.I don't think that is unrealistic at all.
Have you ever seen a show like dateline or 20/20 where they talk about germs in hotel rooms?
If not you will be very surprised how many germs are on a remote and door handles.
I don't think it is anything about being a germaphobe and judging from some of the other responses here I don't think I am that rare in this aspect.Some like FIV which is fine and some do not everyone has their preferences.Nothing wrong with that.
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Really, I'm not judging you or anything. I totally get what you're saying. I just do NOT think about that sort of thing when I spontaneously have sex. Would it if it were with a stranger? Probably more readily than someone i was familiar with, yes. But that's not really spontaneous at ALL. That's planned. So if you come to the plate in a planned situation with dirty anything, yeah that's something I would think would be bothersome.
I just think of how dirty , for instance, a beach is....I mean if you actually think about it in that sense. And I gotta admit, there's been MANY times when I came home from a day at the beach with an SO and had spontaneous sex without necessarily getting squeaky clean first!! Ugh...not a thought I want permanently creeping into my head!!
But, interesting topic nonetheless.
So, knowing how these boards work, by 'sex' ,yeah...can and has included FIV...sure....in , around, on..hands everywhere. Tongue everywhere. Cock everywhere. Everytime is there FIV? Lol...no, of course not. But it's not out of the question. Although now it might be!! Unless I scrub up thoroughly!!!!
Yes. I think about clean/dirty hands with everyone, not just because they are clients. Even if i were married I'd expect him to wash his hands with soap before touching me down there. I am just not going to be able to relax and enjoy if I am thinking about the doorknobs and elevator buttons etc. It only takes a minute to help prevent infection.
I can't imagine getting frisky with an SO spontaneously and then going 'there'. But if it's in your head, how do you avoid it?
Maybe I'm wondering if you assign more germaphobia to clients than to your personal situation/ SO. Is that a fair way to ask?
Of course your concerns are real as far as abrasions, cuts, your damaged cuticles, etc. but it's still not the same as a bare penis. So don't do it, or cover your finger!
This one went the full gambit, from educational research by Shaunna, supportive comments from my girl friends, thank you Heather, Kiwi and Lorena, a little tit for tit from the guys (getting a little touchy about clean hands fellas), and some wild and crazy broad telling masturbation stories; nice touch Robin, it was icing on the cake.
Glad to have helped the popcorn sales.
Save a bag for me OD.
Thanks for the fun thoughts !