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romeogolf 34 Reviews 1406 reads
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I just read the post on the General Board concerning those hobbyists who are offered " Off The Clock " time by the women they share intimacy with.

What the heck !!!

Because I only play in Vegas I am posing this all important question to you fine, professional  ladies of Sin City.

I'm a nice guy, clean cut, gentle, respectful and especially respectable.... I take a shower, wear clean underwear and drink Listerine like it were a Fine Scotch.
I also usually always spend more monies than originally agreed upon at the onset of each encounter whether it be dinner, gifts or a sizable tip.

What the heck would be so wrong if all you beautiful and sexy women that I cherish so much would show your loving sometimes by throwing some OTC time my way.

What the heck !!!

Hello.... (tap,tap,) Is this thing on ?

JB19821128 reads

all those beautiful women around ALL the time, I sure wouldn't complaining.  I might be broke, but I wouldn't be complaining.

The reason there might be more OTC time available in other cities is because there is nothing else to do.... for either of them.

The grass always looks greener......on the other side of the fence!!

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romeogolf920 reads

Lets see, I could stick my dick between those perfect cheeks or I could opt for between her feet.

Hmmmmmmm !


Yes JB, those Vegas honeys are busy little beavers !

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jgoodman2221105 reads

I have had some off the clock time with ladies, but only a couple of times.  

Once I had a two hour session with a provider and planned to have dinner by myself afterward.  I offered to buy her dinner and she agreed.  We had a wonderful meal and then said our goodbyes.  

I have also had the odd lunch or coffee with a provider I see regularly when we have needed to discuss something specific we were planning together or just cause she had some free time.

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samanthasommers1139 reads

I don't mind spending OTC time with my Regular Repeat friends, or even giving them a deal on my normal gift of appreciation.  It's just difficult when you do that and then someone tries to take advantage of it, or expects it all the time...or expects it from you yet sees other providers and gives them their desired rate with no questions asked...sometimes blurring the lines can lead to an amazing friendship and other times it can be quite the headache.

...I can only imagine how it would be on the other side of things too...it's not always easy being a generous hobbyist; an example being:  if a girl always expected gifts or tips and then acted sour if she didn't receive them...or one who asked for a loan (which I had a hobbyist tell me has happened to him several times)...I'm sure the list is endless.

Living on the edge isn't always easy, tho when you are a gracious gentleman (which you seem to be), usually it pays in more ways than you could hope for!  Some people look at the little picture in life, and others see the whole big picture.  ;)


Smiles4Miles

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ReaganMoore957 reads

You are absolutely on target.  It is a very difficult scenario for both sides of the fence.  If neither took it for granted, it wouldn't be an issue.  Sadly, that is often not the case.  

In my case, I am out of town when I am working and my time is booked weeks if not months in advance.  When you plan like that, it doesn't leave a lot of room to play with your schedule.  Also, I often see one client for several days at a time so OTC time ceases to be a factor.

When it comes down to brass tax, this is ultimately a business.  While we all make friends and genuinely enjoy time spent together, the business aspect cannot be ignored.  Let's face it. It is often the boundaries created by the business relationship that make this hobby a comfortable, viable option for both married and single men.  These boundaries allow everyone to relax because expectations are openly known and discussed on both sides.  Taking away business boundaries can become uncomfortable very quickly.  However, I have found that wonderful friendships can and do form at the same time.

Just my .02 cents.

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Todd Kavonic855 reads

Very well stated Reagan!...as much as the hobbyists need to take your remarks to heart, providers need to internalize it as well.

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romeogolf865 reads

One who clearly understands that this is a business and a wonderful game played by to people with a compatible chemistry.

This post Im sure you are aware was fully intended as a joke but as time went by and people actually began chiming in I realized that this lifestyle does allow for the possibility of friendships built.

I also realize that I have certain weeknesses that I need to adjust if I plan on continuing in this wonderful game.

Thanks Reagan !

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jgoodman222934 reads

My larger point is that a gentlemen is always respectful a lady's time.  In the example of offering to buy a provider dinner, it was our first appointment.  I would not have been offended had she refused and my impression is that alot of males would be offended at being declined.  This provider could have had another appointment or simply had eaten already.  

In the case of a having lunch off the clock with a regular, it is not just to shoot the breeze.  We usually have a particular topic to discuss.  Somethings are just better discussed face to face versus phone or email.  I am fond of all the ladies that I see on a regular basis, but I try to be mindful that it is a business relationship.

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CindySpice780 reads


Disclaimer- this is not to bitch slap the person who brought this subject up.
This post is intended to bitch slap ;-) :-) anyone reading the post and thinking or feeling -hey why didn't she join me for dinner OTC

What ??? are you saying that there are guys out there who may be offended if a lady refused on first time meeting ( emphasis on FIRST time meeting ) to join the guy for a meal after the time is over.
Meaning he isn't extending the appointment he just wants the lady to join him for dinner , but hey he will be paying the restaurant bill only.
After all he is a gentleman. ;-)
But for whatever the reason she refuses and he is offended ?!?!?!
Huh?!?!?!
Maybe the provider should be offended that he wants to get a dinner date without actually booking a dinner date.

Hey I totally understand that "dinner dates" are not for everyone.
And there are guys that feel that they don't have to pay to watch a provider eat ..... Although they don't understand that isn't what they are paying for .....to watch her eat.
But I am not judging nor do I hold that  idea against anyone who feels or thinks that.
Nor do i think any less of the gent who doesn't want to book a dinner date.
But I do find it insulting for a gent to get offended if the provider refuses .

I would never expect any person I hire for their services to give me any of their services for free.
It's their livelihood.

This is a business too.
No different from other business.
And while certain friendships and connections may form ,one can still keep the lines where they need to be.

And regarding the time you left an appointment early.
Well that was your choice.
Key word is the provider wasn't EXPECTING you to leave early because you were done .
You left because you CHOSE too ........
Big difference..............
Although with me , no one is done in 30 minutes *wink wink*

xoxo CindySpice

Posted By: Uptonogood11
My larger point is that a gentlemen is always respectful a lady's time.  In the example of offering to buy a provider dinner, it was our first appointment.  I would not have been offended had she refused and my impression is that alot of males would be offended at being declined.  This provider could have had another appointment or simply had eaten already.  

In the case of a having lunch off the clock with a regular, it is not just to shoot the breeze.  We usually have a particular topic to discuss.  Somethings are just better discussed face to face versus phone or email.  I am fond of all the ladies that I see on a regular basis, but I try to be mindful that it is a business relationship.

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jgoodman222857 reads

I am going to have to stop replying to you.  Evidently I cannot do so without making you angry.

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CindySpice845 reads

????????? HUH ??? Where did you get from my answer - Your making me angry ??
Not angry at all. Just making a point and observation about something you said .
I even pointed out, don't take my response personally and that it was meant for guys who are offend if a lady declines OTC dinner on first time meeting. you said you were not offend ......  
SO how do you get angry from that ??

Are my words again getting lost in translation ????

Are you just on the wrong side of the bed right now because of the other conflict in another post ?? LOL LOL just teasing you , to make you smile .
Not angry at all , don't worry .........

Actually I was amused by your "if she isn't watching the clock then how can she be on time"
I thought that was too funny. And I always find your posts fun and entertaining , doesn't mean I have to agree with your thoughts ,as you don't have to agree with mine ........ but doesn't mean I am angry ..........

I am very happy. Just trying to make my point and thoughts.
Nothing more , nothing less.

It's all good , your reply's are always welcomed.
xoxo CindySpice

Posted By: Uptonogood11
I am going to have to stop replying to you.  Evidently I cannot do so without making you angry.

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jgoodman222806 reads

PS You're Cute.

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Todd Kavonic993 reads

I have had 1 hour sessions that turned into overnighters with a 1 hour rate. I have had a provider offer me a free date after I saw her 10 times or so. She did the right thing and flat out told me that she was not setting a precedent for later; that this was because she had a good month in her non provider endeavors and that she appreciated my support while she was not doing so well.

Alternatively, I had a provider tell me that an overnighter was going to be free and I declined because I privately questioned her mental stability and needed the payment as a viable boundary.  A very nice girl and fantastic sex that was hard to turn away from despite my questions about her cognitive state. I am glad I made that decision.

Bottom line, for providers, if you tell a guy that the next date is going to be free or that you offer a rate that is different from what is advertised, you need to make sure that you adhere to what you agreed upon. If you forgot the agreement, (that has happened to me) than bad on you and start writting things down to prevent it in the future.

BTW, I have NEVER asked for OTC sex. It has been offered numerous times though...so for those who think it won't happen, well, maybe there is a reason.

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CindySpice998 reads


and you believe EVERYTHING that you read ;-) ;-) ;-) Well it is on the net , so it must be true *wink wink*

How do you know what other people are saying is really true ??
Maybe they are exaggerating.
Like it happened once and they said it happens all the time.
You don't know what is really going on.

Like a gent may say - She stayed way way over her time ........but he forgot to mentioned that he left a very very generous tip.

Maybe OTC led to other favors to the provider that made it worth her while.
You don't really know what is going on.

It's like those people who brag when they win money gambling , but they never tell about their losses ;-) ;-)

Every gent ( well at least the ones I see )  are nice , clean cut, gentle, respectful and especially respectable....shower, wear clean underwear and have perfect hygiene.
They also usually always spend more monies than originally agreed upon at the onset of each encounter whether it be dinner, gifts or a sizable tip.

I don't WTC ( Watch The Clock) but OTC ...... well how would that be fair to gents who do pay for dinner dates , long evenings or overnights.

I am sure you ( nor any gent )  wouldn't want a lady to expect a tip above her fee and then whine about it if a tip wasn't left .
OR  should a lady expect you to pay more and stay LTC ( Less then Clock as in....you leave sooner)
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Just saying ,don't do to others what you don't want done to you AND
don't believe everything you read.

Have fun , be happy
xoxo CindySpice        


 

Posted By: romeogolf
I just read the post on the General Board concerning those hobbyists who are offered " Off The Clock " time by the women they share intimacy with.

What the heck !!!

Because I only play in Vegas I am posing this all important question to you fine, professional  ladies of Sin City.

I'm a nice guy, clean cut, gentle, respectful and especially respectable.... I take a shower, wear clean underwear and drink Listerine like it were a Fine Scotch.
I also usually always spend more monies than originally agreed upon at the onset of each encounter whether it be dinner, gifts or a sizable tip.

What the heck would be so wrong if all you beautiful and sexy women that I cherish so much would show your loving sometimes by throwing some OTC time my way.

What the heck !!!

Hello.... (tap,tap,) Is this thing on ?

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jgoodman222850 reads

I have always been a bit amazed about the "she's not a clockwatcher" comment in reviews.  If she doesn't watch the clock how can she be on time?  

I have had one-hour appointments that I ended after 1/2 hour.  I had a great time, but I was finished and busy so off I went. Didn't ask for any funds back, that would be tacky.  I wouldn't expect that I am "owed" time by the provider, but I would be upset if she announced time to go at exactly an hour.

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romeogolf1154 reads

My dearest Cindy, this post was actually intended as a joke but after a short period of time I realized that through the pm's that I recieved from several providers maybe I needed to make a change or two to my method of operation.

Im not looking for any free-bees for companionship or otherwise. I realize that there are those special relationships where friendships are formed and time is exchanged otc but I also fully realize that there are those that are full of shit.

I myself have been afforded " over and above " from ladies in the past but would never pass this information on to others because of the problems that it would certainly cause her in the long run.

Thank you Cindy for your time, interest and advice.

Xox


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Ol_Desperado810 reads

Related Link: Sec ON the clock-----Down Under!! LOL

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CindySpice936 reads


I don't chose to answer  a post based on WHO the poster is.
I usually answer a post that I think may relate to many......
Oh wait , you were just kidding me .....
Yes ????
and  I thought I needed to change my style because people take my words the wrong way or too personal.
Ok nice save. ;-) ;-) ;-)

But all joking aside ,I would like to clarify something about me.

Usually when I decide to answer a post my words are not personal for the OP.
In this case that was YOU as you brought the topic up.
But I know there are at least 100 or more thinking about it,
Or wondering about it or asking about it.
(  IT as in - this question or any other question )

So my *bitch slap* ( just using the term because I do think it's funny )  isn't for the OP personally .
It is for ANY person reading the post and ( in this case ) thinking  - yeh why don't I get OTC time.

So maybe you were joking , but out of all the reads I am sure there was someone really wanting to whine why they don't get OTC...
My answer although it is in a form of - I am answering you OP......well you are the one that posted it . ;-) ;-)
My post is really for any person wondering or asking in their minds the same thing but would never post their thoughts and question in public.

So in future I will make it more clear that my answers  are to "anyone reading a certain post and also thinking about ,why ,where and how.

GEEZ it is hard when you have to think something in your head in Hebrew/Russian / Japanese then have to write it in English lol lol.

Always the Spice advise
xoxo CindySpice

Posted By: romeogolf
My dearest Cindy, this post was actually intended as a joke but after a short period of time I realized that through the pm's that I recieved from several providers maybe I needed to make a change or two to my method of operation.

Im not looking for any free-bees for companionship or otherwise. I realize that there are those special relationships where friendships are formed and time is exchanged otc but I also fully realize that there are those that are full of shit.

I myself have been afforded " over and above " from ladies in the past but would never pass this information on to others because of the problems that it would certainly cause her in the long run.

Thank you Cindy for your time, interest and advice.

Xox


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Ol_Desperado792 reads

Are you referring to OTC sex?  If so, then I'd say the Original Spice Girl, Cindee, is correct-a-mundo.   If you're referring to just some OTC socializing or breakfast. lunch or Dinner, that may not be as uncommon.  However, it amazes me that some peeps can be rather brainless and announce to the world these private perks.  It only cause problems, especially for the ladies.  


Oh, and next time we're in Vegas at the same time, I'll buy ya a tall shot of Single Malt Listerine, bro!   (Geesh, I bet the Macallan's have NBL ya!!)

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Ol_Desperado968 reads

Related Link: Stay Thirsty My Friend!!

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flikker1767 reads

A couple of years ago I met a lady visiting Vegas for a 3-hour session. After, OTC we went to dinner, when back to her room to gather my stuff and she asked me to stay the night. Hell yes! Several months later she returned to Vegas on vacation, had a couple dates while there. I met her for another 3 hours session on the first day in town and ended up staying at her high-end hotel with her for FIVE DAYS, all OTC, only paid the 3-hour session. Since that time we have had several such encounters. Seems she does not like to visit strange cities and be alone. I will continue to oblige her.

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Ol_Desperado743 reads

Those situations are best kept on the down-low!!  Shameless....

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hiddenhills938 reads

if you've been hobbying for any length of time, and behave like a gentleman, you've experienced what that fool posted, even though the lady's name was not mentioned, the entire experience is better  left unsaid.

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