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Why are Providers so afraid of bare head?...See science below:...
Here's a good way to think about theoretical risk: In theory, it is possible that while walking down the street, a meteor will fall on your head and kill you instantly. This is because meteors do occasionally fall to earth. People live their lives above ground, so there is a theoretical risk of being hit be a meteor. In fact, there have been reports of a few people being hit by meteors. But because the risk is so small, given that few meteors fall to earth and the large number of inhabitants of this planet, the risk is purely theoretical. The same principle holds true with oral sex – millions of people all over the world are believed to engage in unprotected oral sex and there have only been a handful of documented cases of HIV transmission. In turn, fellatio, and other types of oral sex (see below), remains a theoretical risk for HIV infection.
There have been a number of studies that have closely followed MSM and heterosexual couples, in which one partner was HIV positive and the other partner was HIV negative. In all of the studies, couples that used condoms consistently and correctly during every experience of vaginal or anal sex – but didn't use condoms during oral sex – did not see HIV spread from the HIV positive partner to the HIV negative partner.
There have been three case reports and a few studies suggesting that some people have been infected with HIV as a result of unprotected oral sex. However, these case reports and studies all involved MSM – men who were the receptive partners (the person doing the "sucking") during unprotected oral sex with another HIV-positive man. There haven't been any case reports or studies documenting HIV infection among female receptive partners during unprotected oral sex. Even more importantly, there hasn't been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked") during unprotected oral sex, either among MSM or heterosexuals.
Is insertive oral sex a possible route of HIV transmission? Yes. But is it a documented risk? Absolutely not.
FYI you can pass chlamydia or gonorrhea though BBBJ
You can get herpes with condoms
HIV is not the only thing we worry about and hope it's not the only one you worry about too...
http://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/
symptoms in men and women vary depending on what part of the body is infected: Gonorrhea can affect the anus, eyes, mouth, genitals, or throat.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm
How can chlamydia be prevented?
Latex male condoms, when used consistently and correctly, can reduce the risk of getting or giving chlamydia. The surest way to avoid chlamydia is to abstain from vaginal, anal, and oral sex or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested and is known to be uninfected.
http://consults.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/5-things-to-know-about-herpes/?_r=0
Know how herpes spreads. You can catch herpes through oral sex or intercourse, as well as skin-to-skin contact where the virus sheds. This includes the genitals, inner thigh and anal region. “Skin-to-skin contact is as much as risk as intercourse,” says Dr. Anna Wald of the University of Washington. Herpes is still contagious when no symptoms are present. As a general rule, the area covered by boxer shorts is a potential transmission point.
Those are all true. But in general, if Herpes is active in a male, it will be visible on the head of the penis. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea in men are almost always symptomatic as well (evidenced by a creamy, greenish tinted discharge from the head of the penis, irritation around the meatus and painful urination.
Chlamydia and Gonorrhea in women are often asymptomatic.
I think the OP is questioning the risk mitigation strategy by women providers who don't partake in BBBJ but DO allow DATY, and sometimes even DATO.
This just displays ignorance of the risks by oral sex.
Thirty years ago that's all there was. Went I came back to the hobby after 30 years I went through five dates before I even realized BBBJs were even on the menu.
There is nothing wrong with seeking less risk. This is America, we consider worker safety and consumer safety a priority in every business. That why we get so pissed off when China sends use toys with lead paint.
But BBBJs have clearly won the day. The overwhelming majority of ladies offer BBBJs. Girls that don't offer them are not allowed "scores" over 7, which effectively destroys their business.
So what's the fucking problem? Why do we have to continually bash girls that make that decision. Are we not satisfied with the amount of girls that offer BBBJ? Are we on a mission to force all providers to succumb to the pressure so there are zero girls with a CBJ menu only?
I'm a hobbyist that prefers CBJs. And to be honest I have been frustrated with the amount of girls that object to CBJs. Approximately one third of the girls I've met object to them in one way or another. This continual bashing of the CBJ is just making this worse. There are probably less than 10% of the girls here and in all regions that only offer CBJs. Give it break, you got 90%, be satisfied with that.
If there is a list of "principles" of good hobbying, I am certain one of them would be "to respect the menu". I say we do just that. As it stands now, there are three times the amount of providers that object to CBJs (33%) than there are girls that require CBJs (10%).
Enough already, you won, give it up.
is fine if a girl wants to do that. We are not bashing them for that, only for being afraid to do BBBJ based on bad science or their bad estimations of what the risks are (an irrational fear). If you are going to cite as the reason for not doing BBBJ is that you don't want to catch AIDS, at least be aware that that is virtually impossible. I mean I don't cite fear of getting eaten by a shark as the reason I won't go swimming in Hawaii, although I guess there is IRRATIONAL FEAR there too if one considers reaction to the movie JAWS.
there have only been a handful of documented cases of HIV transmission. In turn, fellatio, and other types of oral sex (see below), remains a theoretical risk for HIV infection.
There have been three case reports and a few studies suggesting that some people have been infected with HIV as a result of unprotected oral sex.
Is insertive oral sex a possible route of HIV transmission? Yes. But is it a documented risk? Absolutely not.
****this last sentence contradicts itself*****. Increased risk is just that, increased risk, and risk is a choice.
And I don't understand your argument about "not a risk for the insertive partner"? Are you saying , "hey girls don't worry, I won't get infected"?
Not withstanding all the "other" STDs, your own opening statement suggest a risk does exist.
All I'm saying is that everybody must manage risk to their own comfort level. Their are an abundance of girls that offer BBBJ, it's not necessary to convince everybody to adopt yours
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