No ladies are booked until 2012... and if they are telling you that then they must really not want to see you.
Damn...what does someone have to do to get, apparently, a number of ladies to all lie to him claiming to be booked two years in advance just so they don't have to see him?
To have every indie lady you contact claim to be booked for two years? yeah....it may not be the ladies that have an attitude.
I see you are having a bad time, but I am not so sure you have the correct perspective or information about playing for pay. This is not a Las Vegas issue you are speaking of...this is a lasvegaschi issue of which your rant is nullified, your anger is misplaced and dismissed as purely not knowing how this works...IN ANY CITY....and almost any venue with the exception of the local ho' stroll.
Here is what may help you put p4p into perspective regardless of the geographies in which you are searching for a playmate. I have friends in Chicago, New York, and LA...I can tell you the reputable girls there will all feel the same way.
Last minute appointments with newbies or guys who are in a hugeeeee rush are a no no. I like my life, and orange does not go well with my skin tone.
Your futile verbiage leads me to believe you desired a last minute appointment? Which is difficult to pull off because:
You have to be screened....no review is NOT helping you.
Where else do you have any hobbying web presence?
Do you have any references?
Have you played in Vegas before?
Most people do not make a last minute decision to come to Vegas. So why think you can make a last minute decision to play? And then get aggravated when you cannot find a playmate?
I was with an extremely well known provider last night, who got a reservation form filled out, complete with references, screening site information, and dates already selected FOR DECEMBER 2010. AND THIS IS ONE OF HER REGULAR CLIENTS!
My ATF has been in my client longer than my youngest has been alive...my kid is almost 19....I have out lasted his marriage.....even he will set his appointment well in advance. I know our calendar no less than 3 months in advance.
We have lives Sir. I have a job, a family, dinner to cook, a house to clean, and other interest BESIDES playing around with hobbyist everyday. Is that ok with you?
I know you are not a veteran player in Vegas because you are surprised there are "no reputable" agencies here. You are the only one here who is shocked.
Had you done any homework at all....and I mean even going back 3 days on this board you would have seen the one LONE agency that is a huge part of this board and as far as I know is not part of the card popping crew on the strip. LV100Proof is THE only agency in Vegas who is actually legit.
But.. it's not anger... Not sure where you got that from unless it's a weak attempt to divert the issue.
The original statement CLEARLY states that Las Vegas has nothing on LA / Chicago or New York for arm candy from agencies. That's all... (Let me throw in Miami, Dallas and Atlanta while I am at it.)
Face it... LV is a little spoiled when it comes to idiots coming in for no other reason then to be idiots...
All I'm saying is don't come to Vegas expecting anything Fantastic in this subject.. which is one of the things being sold.
When I pop into Chicago, New York or LA... there are agencies who gladly know who I am and what I am looking for. They don't send over Junk with a GED. And yes... I know there is an Indie or two in LV that is fantastic.. Been there done that but my schedule is hectic and the very few Indies I've come across in Las Vegas worthwhile are booked up until 2012.
Just my thoughts... don't get offended but the OVERALL business in Las Vegas is a waste....
Key word = OVERALL....
On another Note... I do know there is a VERY high quality service in Las Vegas providing the High Rollers (their Casino Hosts) with $1 Million+ credit lines but I'm not that much of a gambler when it comes to the tables so I'm not in that club.
No ladies are booked until 2012... and if they are telling you that then they must really not want to see you.
Damn...what does someone have to do to get, apparently, a number of ladies to all lie to him claiming to be booked two years in advance just so they don't have to see him?
To have every indie lady you contact claim to be booked for two years? yeah....it may not be the ladies that have an attitude.
Many people think it's a great town for providers. Perhaps you need to do a little better research. Or, better yet, why don't you try hobbying in Barstow or Baker------ ?
Dude,,,i live far away from Vegas and i had no problem setting up an appointment with one of the most sought after provider's in LV. Do your homework bro and provide your info,,,if u can't find a good (independent)lady in LV,,,u won't find one anywhere!!! Good Luck!
Interesting. My experience with providers in Las Vegas has been nothing but wonderful. To me, the monkey is always on a hobbyst's back to give a provider ample opportunity to work through the process and assure that you're both comfortable with each other. It's all about protection and knowledge that your time spent together will be an experience to remember fondly and above all, be safe! If you're not willing to play the game, most casino lounges are filled with willing ladies if you are okay with the risk factor. Craigs list is also another option. I would much rather jump through the hoops, do my research and have a stress-free date, than be paranoid about LE and what I might be bringing home to Momma. Makes perfect sense to me. And about attitude.. sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me. Good Luck!
Just to reiterate what Allure said. Most people know about their trips far in advance. Being that you know so far in advance, why wouldn't you attempt to get screened and verified for a lady in advance??
Contrary to what some seem to believe, we are human too. We do have lives, families, other jobs and daily activities. Trying to screen someone in 8hrs is hard in itself let alone in an hour.
We don't have attitudes, we just need the proper advanced notice. Seems like most everyone else realizes this but a small handful of folks who just can't seem to understand, the rules apply to them as well.
I travel to LA. People prebook me a week at least in advance. I travel to Chicago as well, and 99% of my appointments are booked before I even set foot into an airport. So do not act like this is some huge surprise. Unless you are referring to other bottom feeder sites you use in those cities, such as CL, BP, and HX. In which case I am sure you can schedule very promptly but that is the online equivalent to a ho stroll.
Maybe next time you are made aware of your trip, you will start finding ladies who peak your interest and begin the screening process. And as everyone else has said, it's not news that Vegas doesn't have any reputable agencies. Your statement about that told me immediately you didn't at all research this city. Zack is the only one I have seen thus far. Unless you are seeking pornstars, in which case I know a new reputable agency that just opened a Vegas end.
I would have to agree with Allure and Tasha - PLAN AHEAD!!! The ladies in this city are awesome, and most do a wonderful job of responding as long as you play by the rules. Take your time, do your homework, and prepare for your trip. The ladies will make it worth your effort. And as far as attitudes, everyone I've ever met in this town has been awesome - but I did my research
i have had some nightmares in vegas and i have had some good providers and as well if you do some proper research you can find a provider who will see you on short notice one such provider is arianna rose however it is my belief she may be a ymmv type i tried to get a short notice with 100 proof and resepectfully did not wish to oblige my fault not theirs you are in sin city it is difficult but not impossible
Alright pal, when you mean 'popping into town' do you mean waking up Saturday and decide to jump on a plane to Vegas for a night of debauchery? Or do you know weeks in advance that you're going?
I know some of these ladies that answered your thread personally, meaning, we spent time together. Hot fucking times, I might add.
The thing is, we planned in advance. They knew I was coming(literally), and we made dates.
I did the 'Stripwalker' thing once before I got on here. It was fun and safe, but won't do it again.
As far as agencies, I talked with Zack of LV100Proof and told him I would like to see one of his ladies sometime because of (A) His board presence, (B) Never seen an agency girl knowingly, (C) His ladies are GFE, and (D) He's known as the only reputable agency owner that doesn't upsell and delivers as promised.
As far as attitude with LV independents? I'd suggest looking inward before you make a statement like that. The ladies I've had the pleasure to know have all been very sweet, accomodating, and had a hell of a great time with them.
The agencies have always sucked. What do you expect, play for pay is illegal in Clark county. As far as the indies go, I'm inclined to agree, I hit some real attitude queens on my recent visit. It has not been that bad in the past. I think some of the more mature indies are ranch retreads hence the sour jaded attitude. Yes, Vegas pales in comparison to NY & LA, but Chicago is the pits for a metropolitan area of its size. Some smaller cities like Hotlanta blow Chicago away in terms of quality choices. I live in the Chicago area and the scene is about the worst since the early 90s. It's bad, real bad. But I am surprised over how bad Vegas has become.
I hobbied in L.A. for over 20 years & found quite a few providers with "attitude". I've heard the same about the hobbying scene in NYC. Pity about Chicago, but I guess all the LE stings have taken their toll.
Vegas is a great providing town if hobbyists do 4 things : 1. Plan ahead. 2. Thoroughly do research. 3.Be patient. 4. Be persistent--if one provider doesn't pan out, go to the next one.
Vegas, L.A. & NYC may all have their faults, but, along with D.C., they're the 4 best provider cities, in my opinion.
Well... quite some interesting defensive responses here concerning the Agencies in Las Vegas statement.
My opinions of what I've experienced.... so be it.
I'm sure there are Indies in Las Vegas that are fantastic but considering the demand in Las Vegas... the few Indies that give the business a great name are far and few between...
CONSIDERING... the total amount of business taking place in Las Vegas. (Is it a $4 Billion dollar business as news reports suggest?)
When you REALLY think about it... the ratio is REALLY weak.
Just go back and visit some of the recent "Trolling" posts and all of the "horror" stories that went along with that question.
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