I just came back from Vegas and spent sometime time with a provider there, and I would like some feedback on the date. We had a 7:00 date and this person is known for being late so at 7:15 I called to see how late she would be, she said 8-8:15. This was ok with me but it eventually turned into 10:30. When we did finally get together she mentioned that she was hungrey so we got a bite to eat. We finally got to my room at 11:30 at which point she mentioned that she needed to shower. At 12:00 our 4 hour encounter got started. By 1:00 we had 2 pops. This provider is known for trips to greece but mentioned that she had failed to prepair for this. At about 1:15 we did some cudling and both fell asleep. The morning came and I had to leave early and left her sleeping in bed. The date was taken care of in full via envelope in the bathroom. The hard part is that she is a very sweet person. Any advice on how to proceed? Thanks everyone

...writing a review.  There was an encounter, there was a transaction, so therefore there should be a review.  Explain both the "out of bed" and "in bed" portions of the encounter, and how you feel about them.  If the review is truthful, there can be no problem with it.

Not quite sure what your problem is ??

You booked a provider who is well known to be late , and she was late ......but you knew that when you booked her . So if time was important to you , you shouldn't have booked her in the first place .

Now I take it that you booked a 4 hour date , Well 4 hours does not mean 4 hours in the bedroom . 4 hours is usually a dinner date . So your date started at 10:30 pm not at Midnight .
She wanted to take a shower ?? you should be happy she wants to be fresh for you . You got two pops ..........do you think you could do more ?? I doubt .

She is known to do Greek ............ ok doesn't mean she can do it with everyone . Did you make it clear in advance that you want Greek ? Did she promise you you will get Greek when appointment was booked ?  if yes , then yes she is at fault . She should be prepared . But if you just assumed it is offered because other reviews say so . Well then it is your fault . Don't assume anything!!

Make it clear before the appointment when wanting something special . Yes Greek is very special . I can't imagine having to do it with every client .......OUCH !!

Then you both cuddled and fell asleep , you had to leave early and you left her to sleep .......you mean she spent the night and you only paid for 4 hours ??

I  don't see anything wrong with your date . Did you not have fun ? Did you not enjoy her company ? Did you feel like your expectation were not met ? Did  you feel rushed ? Did she not promise as delivered ? Did she scam you ?

So of course what next depends on answers to some of my questions here .

All to all I see what may be the problem  here . She is a great provider , but she does need to slow down or it will start  to affect the level and quality of the great provider that she is.

A point of view from a provider .
xoxo CindySpice

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Last time I was in Vegas, a very well respected provider and I had a date.  She was the missing jewel in what I consider a very complete list of very high end women I've seen, and I couldn't have been more excited to meet her.  When our appointment time came and went and she hadn't knocked on my door, I called.  "I'm 30 minutes away."  O.K.  Another 30 minutes, no knock.  I called again, "I'm 15 minutes away."

I respectfully cancelled our date.  She seemed really bummed.  Many women get used to guys putting up with all sorts of shit like this.  I won't do it.  I got home to an apologetic e-mail from her, and she went on and on about how after I cancelled she read my reviews and talked to some of our mutual provider friends about me and had developed a crush on me.  Strength and character intriques most women.  Pushovers do not.

The end of the story is that we finally did hook up in LA, but, guess what?  She was right on time, and we had a killer timer.  The point is you let this gal string you along way too much.  Flex a little muscle next time and watch what happens.  As my friend who owns a car dealership says, "when you are the one with the money, you are always in control."  Don't forget that.

Write an honest review about what happened.

Jacksonlips

Cindy let me star by saying that I have spent time with you and you are the greatest. Now back to the subject at hand. At the time of booking you are giving specific instructions not to mention any certain acts. Also at the time of the date when she mentioned wanting to eat she made it clear that we were "off the clock". As far as the shower that was no big deal except it further delayed a already much delayed encounter.And as far as the sleep over I feel that it is very lame to concider 3/4 of a date spent asleep as being lagite time. Only my thoughts. Munch Ps I do hope to see you again, you are one of my all time favorites and you my dear were on time

Cindy, I haven't had the pleasure of your company, but I have found most of your comments to be on the mark, and this is no exception. The number one priority is that both people have a very enjoyable time, and it sounded like this happened. If you can fall asleep with a smile on your face, and the lady that gave it to you still there in your arms, what else could you possibly want...? Just my $.02....
(say Hi to JJ for me )

Thanks for your compliments to  me . Sorry I am not sure who you are because I don't know your handle name and you never wrote a review about me . I hope to see you again so you can refresh my memory ...... of course that is in your hands . *wink wink*


Yes I am on time .  ( or usually early casue my grandfather taught me better  early then late )  You can be late maybe 10 -15 minutes due to traffic or unexpected road delays . And as long as you call the client to let him know I think that is ok . But hours late ?? I don't understand why .

I respect others time as I expect others  to respect my time  . Just like I would not want to sit around waiting hours for a client I don't expect a client to sit around hours waiting for me . Like the client doesn't have  other things to do . Or maybe he needs to get to bed early or whatever it doesn't matter . His life doesn't revolve only around me .


As I said many times before being a top provider isn't just about giving a great service . Being on time ,  being reliable , responsible , professional  also comes along with it .
Now no one is perfect and we may once and while slip up , we are human .... but when you hear the same story over and over then you start to wonder ............


Now back to your problem .

"And as far as the sleep over I feel that it is very lame to consider 3/4 of a date spent asleep as being lagite time"

Actually I was being a bit sarcastic trying to be funny  when I wrote that , that is why I put a smile at the end.  I was hoping some would maybe chuckle , I didn't mean it seriously.

Casue I have had guys comment to me  on some ladies who fell asleep with them even though they didn't pay for the time and they felt so  lucky and privileged  that the lady slept the night with them. So it was a funny thought .( well at least to me )


"At the time of booking you are giving specific instructions not to mention any certain acts"

Yes I know many ladies work in a different ways . The way they book is different, and most ladies do not want to discuss specifics BUT  I personally feel that a lady should discuss certain things especially if it is something she needs to prepare for . If she doesn't want to talk about at the time of booking well then yes she better be prepared for it . Or she needs to make clear at booking that she can not offer something OR maybe she shouldn't offer it in the first place then she wouldn't have a problem .

"Also at the time of the date when she mentioned wanting to eat she made it clear that we were "off the clock".

Well then that's on her . Sorry I didn't realize she said  that time  was "off the clock "
If she said that time is  "off the clock" then that is how it should be .
Personally I would have never said that , but also I wouldn't ask to eat unless we agreed on a "dinner date" ......which when I book a 4 hour I do make it clear that it is a  "dinner date"
And if the client tells me he just wants "in room time" I suggest him that a 2 or 3 hours is enough and there is no need to book a 4 hour .


Yeah her shower delayed time . ( BTW how long was she in the shower ? ? )  Should that be part of the session  ??.  

I personally come prepared , showered and ready  for  my sessions ............ of course can happen to the best of us that by the time we get to the appointment we want to freshen up again . Like maybe it was real hot and by the time she got to the room she felt a bit sweaty and wanted to refresh herself  . or she ate something with  garlic and wanted to freshen up  Or was it because she rushed from another appointment and didn't have time to take a shower ..........
Well then she shouldn't book appointments so close .

Is it ok to say well she was having a bad day ?? No I believe if a provider is having a bad day and she feels she can't provide the level and quality of service that she offers on her good days then she should cancel with the client . If I was a client I would respect that more .

In my eyes part of being a top provider is keeping that energy and quality level up . That is why I prefer to book one appointment a day . So I am fresh and full of energy for each client . So I don't get burnt out . If I did book 2 appointments in a day they are spaced out so I have time to refresh and eat and do what I need to do so I can keep my good reputation

No one is perfect and we try our best . I am sure when she was with you she did her best .  Maybe this thread will be a learning lesson for her how to run her business in future.

Was what happened ok , well yes and no . Part she is to blame but part you are to blame .Will writing a review make a difference ? Well you already in a way told your story in this thread .

I think this thread is a good reality check for both sides to learn how to deal with this in future .
A client shouldn't wait hours and hours  As Jacksonlips said . , after awhile you should have canceled because it was getting late . Or you should have said when she got there it is late so lets just do an hour and I am sure if you paid for an hour you would have felt you got your moneys worth .

A provider who is that late can't get mad at a client who wants to cancel or short cut the session .
Also I would prefer a client to  tell me to my face if he felt I didn't live up to what he expected from  me .
I would want to know  what his problem is and I would  try my best resolve it with him .
So maybe if you woke her up in the morning before leaving to tell her how you felt . That you felt  you  paid for 4 hours but only got one hour and fifteen minutes I am sure if she truly is a top provider she would have  resolved this issue with you . And there would be no more dilemma .
Hope this helps , xoxo CindySpice

It seems to me that your 4 hour date turned into a 1 hour and 15 minute date that still cost you a 4 hour rate....

JJ

and all it took her was an apologetic email. In the end you paid for her services. So, ultimately, you DID put up with her shit. Only difference is, you walked away feeling good about yourself.  Think about it.   A good provider will make her clients feel special or different. Just like a good salesman will leave you feeling like you just made the deal of the century.  Maybe I'm being cynical.

Hi just a quick update this person did get in contact with me and is sending a partial refund. Thanks for all of the advice.

Mmmmmm...Cindy! Your horns are showing my dear. What happened to "Not quite sure what your problem is ?? and "I  don't see anything wrong with your date)?
Did your opinion change before or after you learned the identity of the provider?

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Yeah, if he had really wanted to get his point across, he would have refused to ever book her again. That would have taught her some respect for hobbyists's time.

It's like telling a restaurant owner you were treated badly. Yet a week later, you show up there again....and the owner quietly smiles to himself as he collects your $$.